Probably Magic posted:

If we're banned from D&D, and from what I've seen we effectively are complete with D&D users citing our posts in CSPAM as some evidence against us, I don't see why the worst of D&D get to troll CSPAM with impunity. I don't give a poo poo if mcmagic pops in here, he's already cursed with a Jets fandom, but one of the folks who cheerleads against this forum the most should not have the privilege of then intentionally making GBS threads up the forum. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

Wheeee posted:

Bans are a coward's tool, simply let other posters off the leash to savage shitters with impunity

Son of Thunderbeast posted:

I'd like to see a subforum where there are no mods, but every thread OP gets full IK powers within that thread (and that thread only). I initially put "mod" but maybe ban power would be a bad idea.

The forum itself could be freeform. About whatever. Each thread OP can decide their own thread's agenda. It'd be like a libertarian seastead, but for threads and posts.

Flavius Aetass posted:

i have a feeling it might be because they know any attempt to do so would be met with all of their posting pals calling them nazi rape apologist bootlickers

Flavius Aetass posted:

This isn't intended as a slight against anyone, but we have given IK buttons to at least 2 posters who frequent the succzone and their idea of what posts to use their buttons on unfortunately differs greatly from that of the admins

we have already tried to address your concerns by doing exactly this

Some Guy TT posted:

if thats how you feel just probe the people who are talking about d and d

the vast majority of succ zone content wasnt about that and anyone whos telling you thats all we did is a liar

Raskolnikov38 posted:

it wasn't because it wasn't moderated until the volunteer mods decided they couldn't ignore it anymore

Some Guy TT posted:

really because i was a regular poster in the succ zone and i can barely remember anyone getting probed at all and bear in mind that since im night crew id see probes that were only approved long after the fact

even in the context of moderation discussion we had far longer chats about threadbanning quetzadilla and mcmagic or banning jimmy dore conversations than i can remember anyone ever seriously getting mad about d and d

spacemang_spliff posted:

I don't

It'll be like 20 minutes before I'm naked in a dark room, curled up, rocking back and forth, eyes wide open muttering to myself "warmongering austerity rapist warmongering austerity rapist warmongering austerity rapist...."

Yinlock posted:

ah gently caress, i've been owned

Probably Magic posted:

I was thinking of starting a thread a couple days ago bitching about D&D labeled, "This Curse of Strahd Campaign Sucks."

Probably Magic posted:

Lawful Good: docbeard, majorian
Chaotic Good: Yinlock, Son of Thunderbeast, Homeless Friend
True Neutral: Squizzle
Lawful Evil: McMagic
Chaotic Evil: Arfjason, Quetzadilla
Neutral Good: Brutalist McDonalds
Neutral Evil: Flavius Aetass

This might just be an OP, gonna think over a bit more and see what I can do with this.

Oh Snapple! posted:

anyway just gonna say my small piece because may as well. it's awkward for me because i've increasingly felt that succ zone actually probably should have been closed, just for a whole bunch of toxicity reasons separate from the D&D stuff.


Unsurprisingly I feel like Koos is pretty much right here, though to build off it a bit: Yeah, I think cspam should be able to make fun of D&D. No, I do not think that act should be a completely unmoderated affair. Succ Zone very much did need its own IK, and at least regarding the D&D stuff, what always made sense to me (and I know I've voiced this before) was you either make fun of it in succ zone or you post in D&D. You do not get to do both, at the very least not at the same time. It needed a reasonably active IK to:

a. Probe the poo poo out of people who went from succ zone to touch the poo poo, assuming a D&D mod did not get them first
b. Probe the poo poo out of people dragging D&D arguments they were involved in back in here.

How well that actually would have worked given the thread's general decline into constant taintrunner imitation is a big loving question mark, but I do feel it was a better approach to take and to try out than the one used. If it couldn't work out then that would have just been a further sign that the thread had earned a general closure anyway.

Son of Thunderbeast posted:

Gonna repost my RSF suggestion here. Now that we're a top level forum we should have a subforum that does this:

twoday posted:

good*

Probably Magic posted:

We post pure and trusting from the heart, unlike the cynicism and nihilism of some forums. CSPAM is, ultimately, an idealistic and optimist forum full of joy and faith.

Flavius Aetass posted:

Son of Thunderbeast are you aware of the Miracle of Sailor

Flavius Aetass posted:

lmao

Paladinus posted:

What if dissent is the main problem?

Flavius Aetass posted:

I appreciate the irony but I've never thought that the hostility we should have for politicians should extend to fellow goons. You may disagree and there are certainly exceptions but I feel pretty strongly about making C-SPAM a welcoming place. Sure, some people need to be told to gently caress off or have their taint ran, but at the end of the day i don't think you should be thinking of anyone here as your real life enemy when it is just posting.

Dixon Chisholm posted:

Nah. The people over there and anywhere else that said poo poo like 'she was lying about rape for money' are my real life enemies. The reaction to Tara Reade was absolutely disgusting.

samantonio posted:

Is it the forums or this thread that are hosed right now? My shits messed up.

Flavius Aetass posted:

yeah, we're more tolerant of shitposting here.

i didn't say you had to be nice to them. just like anywhere else the too rude line is v subjective so blast people at your own risk. i don't know what else you want, since i can't think of anywhere where you are allowed to be as mean as you want to anyone

Flavius Aetass posted:

well I'm not sure that I would phrase it that way but as a compromise I am way more aware now that going into the succ zone and making lib posts was deliberate poo poo stirring

Regarde Aduck posted:

Flavius Aetass posted:

ngl this is the saddest thing i've ever read

Flavius Aetass posted:

Yinlock posted:

didn't lf get trolled to death

apertura posted:

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Homeless Friend posted:

                                I'm the austerity war rapist?
                                                      \

Flunky posted:

posting itt before w/e drama blowup is coming

docbeard posted:

...the hell is going on?

Oh Snapple! posted:

I mean let's be honest it does fall on cspam as a community for propping such a blatantly toxic piece of poo poo up on the basis of "he yell at people"

SKULL.GIF posted:

He would come into totally unrelated threads and completely fly off the handle at random posters and accuse them of a laundry list of offenses, knocking the conversation completely off the rails for half a dozen pages if not more. He was the worst poster in CSPAM by a country mile. How could you possibly think that in any way was good posting? Just because he was ostensibly on "your side"? Even though he was actively alienating people instead of growing the movement? He was too loving cowardly to even go after the actual liberals he supposedly hated so much and would just pick fights in here.

And then you add in him being allegedly a rapist on top of that? Shut the hell up and reconsider your personal standards.

Wheeee posted:

just ban him for that horrendous medium article on top of lifetime posting achievement