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Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN
It's 2021 and you know what that means: getting hot and bothered over the Pro Football Hall of Fame ballot once again.

Last year had an extra large class to celebrate the NFL's Centennial, and was going to be a huge party in Canton in early August. But then whoops, pandemic, so that never happened. Supposedly they're going to combine the ceremonies this year so the 2020 class can still get their speeches, but we probably already know that's wishful thinking. Still, they're going through with the annual voting process and will reveal the final class the night before the Super Bowl as usual.

So here are the fifteen nominees who made the final Modern Era ballot. Remember that you can only vote for five out of this class, so choose wisely.

Jared Allen, Defensive End

Kansas City Chiefs 2004-07, Minnesota Vikings 2008-13, Chicago Bears 2014-15, Carolina Panthers 2015
First year on final ballot
Five Pro Bowls, four 1st-team All-Pros
League leader in sacks in 2007 (15.5), 2011 (22)
12th all-time in sacks (136)
Owner of this legendary GIF

Ronde Barber, Defensive Back

Tampa Bay Buccaneers 1997-2012
First year on final ballot
Five Pro Bowls, three 1st-team All-Pros, two 2nd-team All-Pros
NFL All-2000s 2nd Team
League leader in interceptions in 2001 (10)

Tony Boselli, Tackle

Jacksonville Jaguars, 1995-2001
Fifth year on final ballot
Five Pro Bowls, four 1st-team All-Pros
NFL All-1990s 2nd Team

LeRoy Butler, Safety

Green Bay Packers 1990-2001
Second year on final ballot
Four Pro Bowls, four 1st-team All-Pros
NFL All-1990s 1st Team

Alan Faneca, Guard

Pittsburgh Steelers 1998-2007, New York Jets 2008-09, Arizona Cardinals 2010
Sixth year on final ballot
Nine Pro Bowls, six 1st-team All-Pros, two 2nd-team All-Pros
NFL All-2000s 1st Team

Torry Holt, Wide Receiver

St. Louis Rams 1999-2008, Jacksonville Jaguars 2009
Second year on final ballot
Seven Pro Bowls, one 1st-team All-Pro, one 2nd-team All-Pro
NFL All-2000s 2nd Team
League leader in receptions in 2003 (117)
League leader in receiving yards in 2000 (1,635), 2003 (1,696)
16th all-time in receiving yards (13,382)

Calvin Johnson, Wide Receiver

Detroit Lions 2007-15
First year on final ballot
Six Pro Bowls, three 1st-team All-Pros, one 2nd-team All-Pro
NFL All-2010s Team
League leader in receptions in 2012 (122)
League leader in receiving yards in 2011 (1,681), 2012 (1,964, single-season record)
League leader in receiving touchdowns in 2008 (12)
Was way too cool for the Lions

John Lynch, Safety

Tampa Bay Buccaneers 1993-2003, Denver Broncos 2004-07
Eighth year on final ballot
Nine Pro Bowls, two 1st-team All-Pros, two 2nd-team All-Pros

Peyton Manning, Quarterback

Indianapolis Colts 1998-2011, Denver Broncos 2012-15
First year on final ballot
Five MVP awards (2003, 2004, 2008, 2009, 2013)
Two Offensive Player of the Year awards (2004, 2013)
2006 Super Bowl MVP
2012 Comeback Player of the Year
14 Pro Bowls, seven 1st-team All-Pros, two 2nd-team All-Pros
NFL All-2000s 2nd Team
League leader in passing yards in 2000 (4,413), 2003 (4,267), 2013 (5,477, single-season record)
League leader in passing touchdowns in 2000 (33), 2004 (49), 2006 (31), 2013 (55, single-season record)
3rd all-time in passing yards (71,940), 3rd all-time in passing touchdowns (539)
Got pantsed by the Seahawks in the Super Bowl :hawksin:

Clay Matthews Jr., Linebacker

No, not that Clay Matthews
Cleveland Browns 1978-93, Atlanta Falcons 1994-96
First year on final ballot
Four Pro Bowls, one 2nd-team All-Pro

Sam Mills, Linebacker

New Orleans Saints 1986-94, Carolina Panthers 1995-97
Second year on final ballot
Five Pro Bowls, one 1st-team All-Pro, two 2nd-team All-Pros

Richard Seymour, Defensive Lineman

New England Patriots 2001-08, Oakland Raiders 2009-12
Third year on final ballot
Seven Pro Bowls, three 1st-team All-Pros, three 2nd-team All-Pros
NFL All-2000s 1st Team

Zach Thomas, Linebacker

Miami Dolphins 1996-2007, Dallas Cowboys 2008
Second year on final ballot
Seven Pro Bowls, five 1st-team All-Pros, two 2nd-team All-Pros

Reggie Wayne, Wide Receiver

Indianapolis Colts 2001-14
Second year on final ballot
Six Pro Bowls, one 1st-team All-Pro, two 2nd-team All-Pros
League leader in receiving yards in 2007 (1,510)
10th all-time in receptions (1,070), 10th all-time in receiving yards (14,345)

Charles Woodson, Defensive Back

Oakland Raiders 1998-2005 & 2013-15, Green Bay Packers 2006-12
First year on final ballot
1998 Defensive Rookie of the Year
2009 Defensive Player of the Year
Nine Pro Bowls, four 1st-team All-Pros, four 2nd-team All-Pros
NFL All-2000s 1st Team
League leader in interceptions in 2009 (9), 2011 (7)
5th all-time in interceptions (65), 2nd all-time in interception return touchdowns (11)

Benne fucked around with this message at 06:03 on Jan 6, 2021

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a neat cape
Feb 22, 2007

Aw hunny, these came out GREAT!
Induct Don Coryell, cowards

Cavauro
Jan 9, 2008

charles

gohuskies
Oct 23, 2010

I spend a lot of time making posts to justify why I'm not a self centered shithead that just wants to act like COVID isn't a thing.
Manning and Woodson are automatic.

Three potential WRs - I think Calvin Johnson and Torry Holt will both eventually get in and one of them will be this year.

Faneca versus Boselli for an offensive line slot - Boselli was arguably better at his peak but Faneca was great for longer. I think Faneca gets it.

For the fifth slot, there a lot of other DBs on the list, Leroy Butler has a strong case, but they're already doing one DB if they do Woodson. They doubled up on safeties last year so it happens, but I don't know. Zach Thomas had the poor fortune of having his career overlap with Ray Lewis and Brian Urlacher so he didn't have many chances to be better than the 3rd best MLB in the league. I don't know enough about Sam Mills to compare him. Letting in Allen or Seymour would alleviate the DE/rushing OLB crunch coming down the pipeline with Julius Peppers, DeMarcus Ware, Dwight Freeney, and James Harrison all being eligible soon. Obviously Seymour was a different guy than all of them, though.

I'm a little surprised Patrick Willis wasn't a finalist. Sure he didn't play for as many years as some guys, but he was truly dominant when he did.

gohuskies fucked around with this message at 02:14 on Jan 6, 2021

Grand Theft Autobot
Feb 28, 2008

I'm something of a fucking idiot myself
LeRoy Butler was amazing.

Ornery and Hornery
Oct 22, 2020

Megatron has to be first ballot.

Kalli
Jun 2, 2001



My Jared Allen Argument:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTdRXMKh7VI

My Richard Seymour Argument:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ID6QLJxnkn8

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005
I'd be stingy and vote Manning/Woodson/Megatron

Doctor Teeth
Sep 12, 2008



lol

Kalli
Jun 2, 2001




It's a perfect video that shows both what happens when football players collide with normal human beings and that Jared Allen is a remarkably stupid person.

wandler20
Nov 13, 2002

How many Championships?
Ronde Barber
Peyton Manning
Calvin Johnson
Charles Woodson
Alan Faneca

I don't care too much about Lynch but I'd really like to see Ronde get in.

Quiet Feet
Dec 14, 2009

THE HELL IS WITH THIS ASS!?





Megatron and Manning have to get in first ballot and I would hope Son of Wood as well.

I wasn't really following Football for most of Torry "Big Game" Holt's career.

PupsOfWar
Dec 6, 2013

i cant believe they are letting scrubs like peyton manning on the ballot now

Nystral
Feb 6, 2002

Every man likes a pretty girl with him at a skeleton dance.

wandler20 posted:

Ronde Barber
Peyton Manning
Calvin Johnson
Charles Woodson
Alan Faneca

I don't care too much about Lynch but I'd really like to see Ronde get in.

This is my list, and in my heart Barber is a CB not a loving Safety which he only played for like a loving year. No one else had 14 defensive touchdowns and 28 sacks when he retired. He’s my second favorite player after Mr. Derick Brooks, and deserves to be in the HOF.

wandler20
Nov 13, 2002

How many Championships?

Nystral posted:

This is my list, and in my heart Barber is a CB not a loving Safety which he only played for like a loving year. No one else had 14 defensive touchdowns and 28 sacks when he retired. He’s my second favorite player after Mr. Derick Brooks, and deserves to be in the HOF.

Agree with all this. He was the first and might still be the only player in NFL history with 20 sacks and 20 INTs.

Darth Brooks
Jan 15, 2005

I do not wear this mask to protect me. I wear it to protect you from me.

a neat cape posted:

Induct Don Coryell, cowards

This and also Jim Marshall. Out of this group Payton is the one getting instant approval.

gohuskies
Oct 23, 2010

I spend a lot of time making posts to justify why I'm not a self centered shithead that just wants to act like COVID isn't a thing.

wandler20 posted:

Agree with all this. He was the first and might still be the only player in NFL history with 20 sacks and 20 INTs.

Leroy Butler has 20 sacks and 38 INTs, and did it before Barber, he was the first player with 20 sacks and more than 30 INTs: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/ButlLe00.htm And Woodson has 20 sacks and 65 INTs https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/W/WoodCh00.htm

nerve
Jan 2, 2011

SKA SUCKS

wandler20 posted:

Agree with all this. He was the first and might still be the only player in NFL history with 20 sacks and 20 INTs.

gohuskies posted:

Leroy Butler has 20 sacks and 38 INTs, and did it before Barber, he was the first player with 20 sacks and more than 30 INTs: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/ButlLe00.htm And Woodson has 20 sacks and 65 INTs https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/W/WoodCh00.htm

SMH Butler gets no respect

Grittybeard
Mar 29, 2010

Bad, very bad!
My peak over longevity ballot since we've allowed Terrell Davis in demands Boselli and Holt this year.

wandler20
Nov 13, 2002

How many Championships?

gohuskies posted:

Leroy Butler has 20 sacks and 38 INTs, and did it before Barber, he was the first player with 20 sacks and more than 30 INTs: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/ButlLe00.htm And Woodson has 20 sacks and 65 INTs https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/W/WoodCh00.htm

My mistake, I mean as a CB.

a neat cape
Feb 22, 2007

Aw hunny, these came out GREAT!

Grittybeard posted:

My peak over longevity ballot since we've allowed Terrell Davis in demands Boselli and Holt this year.

Boselli not being in is a joke

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?
Put Torry Holt in the Hall of Fame

Grittybeard
Mar 29, 2010

Bad, very bad!

DariusLikewise posted:

Put Torry Holt in the Hall of Fame

He's my white whale candidate, I can't rest until he's in.

And man did I hate those Rams teams, but he was so amazing.

D-LINK
Oct 1, 2007

I was talking to peachy Peach about kissy Kiss. He bought me a soda.

a neat cape posted:

Boselli not being in is a joke

Same with Faneca. Dude has six 1st team and two 2nd team all-pros. That's well beyond the usual rubric of four 1st team all-pro being automatic entry

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


wandler20
Nov 13, 2002

How many Championships?
They should do another expanded class because so many of these finalists deserve to be in.

Quiet Feet
Dec 14, 2009

THE HELL IS WITH THIS ASS!?






Surely someone has the version with the finger dancing back and forth.

Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002

They wasted Luanne on Lucky!

She could of have been so much more but the writers just didn't care!

bet he can get real freaky with that thing

Nystral
Feb 6, 2002

Every man likes a pretty girl with him at a skeleton dance.

DariusLikewise posted:

Put Torry Holt in the Hall of Fame

Is he the next Art Monk? That candidate that is held up by people like Peter King as an example of a player that deserves to be in the hall of very good vs the hall of fame?

Silly Burrito
Nov 27, 2007

Sam Mills
Peyton Manning
Calvin Johnson
Alan Faneca
Charles Woodson

pseudodragon
Jun 16, 2007


Grittybeard posted:

My peak over longevity ballot since we've allowed Terrell Davis in demands Boselli and Holt this year.

Holt is cool and all, but isn’t Megatron the definition of peak over longevity WR?

Kawalimus
Jan 17, 2008

Better Living Through Birding And Pessimism
Manning
Johnson
Woodson
Faneca
Thomas
Boselli

A lot of borderline cases here but these are the ones I would put in. I think Terrell Davis getting in sets precedent for peak over longevity

Really ridiculous that Faneca has been on this ballot six times. Come on! If he isnt a HOF at guard no one is.

TheBizzness
Oct 5, 2004

Reign on me.
Zach Thomas would be a hall of famer if he didn’t get trucked at the LOS on every 3rd and 4 with the game on the line.

Ghost Dog
Aug 17, 2016

obligatory zach thomas is nowhere near a hofer but he is better than brian urlacher who somehow??? is in??? the hall of fame?? despite being terrible thank you godbless

Kawalimus
Jan 17, 2008

Better Living Through Birding And Pessimism
Thomas was a key part of one of the best defensive units of the late 90s and early 00s.

Ghost Dog
Aug 17, 2016

one of the top 32 defenses known to man in a specific date range, for sure

Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN

pseudodragon posted:

Holt is cool and all, but isn’t Megatron the definition of peak over longevity WR?

I think that honor goes to Sterling Sharpe, who should also be in

gohuskies
Oct 23, 2010

I spend a lot of time making posts to justify why I'm not a self centered shithead that just wants to act like COVID isn't a thing.

wandler20 posted:

They should do another expanded class because so many of these finalists deserve to be in.

And next year the newly eligible guys will be Anquan Boldin, Chad Greenway, Andre Johnson, Mario Williams, Tony Romo, Robert Mathis, Steve Smith, Demarcus Ware, and Vince Wilfork. Some of those are clear "no"s but I see at least Steve Smith, Ware, and Wilfork all eventually getting in. The D line space is going to get crowded with Richard Seymour and Jared Allen already as finalists!

Mystic Stylez
Dec 19, 2009

Zach THomas sucks rear end

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Intruder
Mar 5, 2003

Never induct Boselli IMO

Peyton and Woodson are the automatics

I'm blown away that Calvin has been retired long enough :stare:

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