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drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine


CopywrightMMXI posted:

Thanks for the recommendation of Maniac of New York. I read the first issue and it’s great. I’ll have to order 2 and 3 soon.

Just read the first two issues myself, and it's definitely a well made comic in terms of both art and writing, but it suffers from that common ailment that all but cripples most modern indie comics in the US, it's WAY too cynical and depressing for it's own good(Ultramega is another recent example of this phenomenon*) to the point that it saps out ANY form of possible enjoyment or entertainment from reading them that it makes reading them in the first place meaningless

*both are also very shameless about blatantly ripping off their inspirations to such a degree that it's honestly amazing that neither has gotten sued yet for copyright infringement

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FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Nope



Got to ship a set of comics across the continental US. What's the cheapest way, Media Mail with USPS?

Thinking of packing them in a few storage bins like this one from Lowes.

Skwirl
May 13, 2007

The 'blood babe with the silicone chest, 200-dollar haircut, and a closet full of the latest fashions.




FilthyImp posted:

Got to ship a set of comics across the continental US. What's the cheapest way, Media Mail with USPS?

Thinking of packing them in a few storage bins like this one from Lowes.

I doubt they'll check, but you can't technically ship singles as media mail since they have ads.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010



Would it be possible to get this as a canvas print poster somewhere?

https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Batman_Vol_1_222

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.

Has InStockTrades just become really slow to ship orders? It took about 3 weeks to get something over Xmas (understandable) and my latest order has been "waiting to process" for a week so far.

I'm sure they're running on a skeleton crew, but I'd hate to have to go back to Amazon if I need something in a timely manner (this was a gift that I'm probably going to not get in time).

the guy from Semisonic
Jan 13, 2006

It don't matter.
None of this matters.



Uthor posted:

Has InStockTrades just become really slow to ship orders? It took about 3 weeks to get something over Xmas (understandable) and my latest order has been "waiting to process" for a week so far.

I'm sure they're running on a skeleton crew, but I'd hate to have to go back to Amazon if I need something in a timely manner (this was a gift that I'm probably going to not get in time).

That was my experience this past February. Took a week and a half to "process" then it sat for another week and a half at "pulled, waiting to ship" or something like that.

Zachack
Jun 1, 2000






Yeah, IST has been really slow for a while, although I don't know if it's better if you pay for faster shipping (I always spend over $50 for the free shipping). Pandemic slowed them down a lot, then the ice storm messed them up. I still order 95% of things from them because of the price and I don't really care when I get things so long as I get them eventually, but there have been a couple orders where it sat in processing for over two weeks and I started to worry that the order got messed up.

Bigger issue for me is that they seem to be missing things - I had to order the last BPRD omni from Amazon because IST didn't seem to get it in, and there was something else recently (possibly also from Dark Horse) that IST never got in. I don't mind waiting for my books but there's (seemingly) no way to see what they're getting - the Coming Soon section doesn't show everything. I probably should just start ordering from DCBS.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003

how few people do you
need before you can
change the world?


They're the same company and DCBS is dying for warehouse workers. I wouldn't expect anything better when they pay less than local gas stations.

Source: they moved the dcbs side back to my town and advertise heavily that they are hiring.

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.

Zachack posted:

Bigger issue for me is that they seem to be missing things - I had to order the last BPRD omni from Amazon because IST didn't seem to get it in, and there was something else recently (possibly also from Dark Horse) that IST never got in.

Yeah, I got Bone from Amazon cause IST didn't have it. And I've been trying to get Slaughterhouse-Five the last two times to no avail.

I remember in the past (maybe 10+ ago) they would charge your card when you placed the order and I've had them take my money, try and fail to get a book for weeks, send what they did have with a note saying they will send me the missing book when they can. I had to specifically ask them for my money back for the book they didn't send me.

I think that's what got me to stop using them for a few years.

How Wonderful!
Jul 18, 2006


I only have excellent ideas.


My wife and I closed on a house today. That's right. I'm moving to Krakoa to be with my people.

Edit: Well, I should say we closed on a house yesterday, I lost track of time.

I also want to add in a comics related aside-- I wound up reading a bunch of Tijuana bibles while I was down a work-related rabbit hole (I will clarify here that the rabbit hole was about how queer physicality was represented in pre-1930s visual media) and I think they're actually a really amazing resource. As kind of the lowest of the low in terms of cultural prestige, they could really get away with showing stuff that even prose porn or early photo/film stuff couldn't about how people in the early 20th century actually imagined and fantasized about sex. There's one about Donald Duck that kind of like-- and this will sound outlandish-- reflects elements of the period's gay subcultures that are almost never mentioned in print outside of private diaries and letters that we happen to have preserved. There is also a surprising amount of rear end-eating, cunnilingus, even threeway sex with two male participants, stuff that a historian dealing strictly with print and film would say was absolutely nonnegotiably taboo for many American men in the early parts of the 20th century-- stuff they maybe did, but rarely talked or wrote about (a lot of men were very circumspect and bashful about going down on their female partners even in letters and private journals or diaries). And here it all is just happening to Popeye in these stupid gross little things!

How Wonderful! fucked around with this message at 05:40 on Apr 1, 2021

Skwirl
May 13, 2007

The 'blood babe with the silicone chest, 200-dollar haircut, and a closet full of the latest fashions.




How Wonderful! posted:

My wife and I closed on a house today. That's right. I'm moving to Krakoa to be with my people.

Edit: Well, I should say we closed on a house yesterday, I lost track of time.

I also want to add in a comics related aside-- I wound up reading a bunch of Tijuana bibles while I was down a work-related rabbit hole (I will clarify here that the rabbit hole was about how queer physicality was represented in pre-1930s visual media) and I think they're actually a really amazing resource. As kind of the lowest of the low in terms of cultural prestige, they could really get away with showing stuff that even prose porn or early photo/film stuff couldn't about how people in the early 20th century actually imagined and fantasized about sex. There's one about Donald Duck that kind of like-- and this will sound outlandish-- reflects elements of the period's gay subcultures that are almost never mentioned in print outside of private diaries and letters that we happen to have preserved. There is also a surprising amount of rear end-eating, cunnilingus, even threeway sex with two male participants, stuff that a historian dealing strictly with print and film would say was absolutely nonnegotiably taboo for many American men in the early parts of the 20th century-- stuff they maybe did, but rarely talked or wrote about (a lot of men were very circumspect and bashful about going down on their female partners even in letters and private journals or diaries). And here it all is just happening to Popeye in these stupid gross little things!

Yeah, the idea we are getting more coarse as a culture is built upon lies/

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003

how few people do you
need before you can
change the world?


Congrats on the house! Homeownership rules/sucks!

thetoughestbean
Apr 27, 2013

Do not attempt to interact with the hogs.


At least now we know that Popeye fucks

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

You are now a slimy little toad


The Great Twist

Is there a good academic collection of Tijuana Bibles? I don't know how that works with copyright holders and stuff, given the characters are clearly getting up to stuff that would presumably damage the brand, and they were made illegally in the first place, so reprints seem tricky.

How Wonderful!
Jul 18, 2006


I only have excellent ideas.


Bob Adelman edited a pretty good sampling of them in 1997 which I think is still in print. Otherwise as far as I know you can scrounge around online or book a visit to the special collections of a university that has some. Duke University has over 370 if you are ever up for a hot and shoddy time in North Carolina. There are many at tijuanabibles.org but hm, how to put this. They are not really.... "good." And they are not really sexy, and I don't know if they were ever really meant to be sexy. Like I don't know if any young bachelors were tossing and turning in their sheets in 1937 thinking like "ohh I just gotta see Fibber McGee's nut, rendered so poorly." I read them as more like a physical token of a particular kind of dirty joke a la Chaucer's scatological scenes or the x-rated limerick. It's less like-- oh my god, Barney Google is so beautiful right now, more like "ha, sex really is just earthy and common and weird, even Barney Google does the drat thing." So of course a lot of them are rough chuckles from the perspective of 2021-- full of racial and ethnic stereotypes, misogyny, weird homophobia (often concurrently with surprisingly frank scenes of gay sex), and dubious acts of consent.

Another big problem is that like, practically none of them have solid textual histories, in part because they were printed cheaply and distributed covertly. It seems really rare to me that anybody can be like, "this one was drawn by <x> and came out in such and such a year." People can kind of guess, I think, from the drawing styles, printing techniques, and which characters feature, at vaaaaguely when a given bible was published, but it's a lot of just "and here's this weird thing."

thetoughestbean posted:

At least now we know that Popeye fucks

Popeye is not a gentleman.

How Wonderful! fucked around with this message at 12:57 on Apr 1, 2021

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003

Get running
Start pumping your bunions, I'm coming
I'm the dumbest, who flamethrow your function to Funyons
Flame your crew quicker than Trump fucks his youngest
Now face the flame fuckers your fame and fate's done with





Uthor posted:

Yeah, I got Bone from Amazon cause IST didn't have it. And I've been trying to get Slaughterhouse-Five the last two times to no avail.

I remember in the past (maybe 10+ ago) they would charge your card when you placed the order and I've had them take my money, try and fail to get a book for weeks, send what they did have with a note saying they will send me the missing book when they can. I had to specifically ask them for my money back for the book they didn't send me.

I think that's what got me to stop using them for a few years.

If you're okay paying full price, the Vonnegut Library website has Slaughterhouse-Five in stock.

Congrats on the house How Wonderful! I cannot afford to buy here, so now I am waiting to see what post-pandemic telework is like and may end up moving to Baltimore which I'm not particularly in to, but at least I can afford a house there.

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

You are now a slimy little toad


The Great Twist

How Wonderful! posted:

Bob Adelman edited a pretty good sampling of them in 1997 which I think is still in print. Otherwise as far as I know you can scrounge around online or book a visit to the special collections of a university that has some. Duke University has over 370 if you are ever up for a hot and shoddy time in North Carolina. There are many at tijuanabibles.org but hm, how to put this. They are not really.... "good." And they are not really sexy, and I don't know if they were ever really meant to be sexy. Like I don't know if any young bachelors were tossing and turning in their sheets in 1937 thinking like "ohh I just gotta see Fibber McGee's nut, rendered so poorly." I read them as more like a physical token of a particular kind of dirty joke a la Chaucer's scatological scenes or the x-rated limerick. It's less like-- oh my god, Barney Google is so beautiful right now, more like "ha, sex really is just earthy and common and weird, even Barney Google does the drat thing." So of course a lot of them are rough chuckles from the perspective of 2021-- full of racial and ethnic stereotypes, misogyny, weird homophobia (often concurrently with surprisingly frank scenes of gay sex), and dubious acts of consent.



This review of the Adelman book made me chuckle:

site
Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch


How Wonderful! posted:

"ohh I just gotta see Fibber McGee's nut, rendered so poorly."

new thread title

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009




I hate to be too enthusiastic about an upcoming superhero movie, but the new Suicide Squad trailer showed Arms Fall Off Boy and now I am there.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003

how few people do you
need before you can
change the world?


Random Stranger posted:

I hate to be too enthusiastic about an upcoming superhero movie, but the new Suicide Squad trailer showed Arms Fall Off Boy and now I am there.

Suicide Squad is going to give me some manner of sexual awakening I am fairly certain.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010



Rhyno posted:

Suicide Squad is going to give me some manner of sexual awakening I am fairly certain.

I imagine John Cena has that effect on a few people

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003

how few people do you
need before you can
change the world?


El Gallinero Gros posted:

I imagine John Cena has that effect on a few people

I was talking about Starro

Lurdiak
Feb 25, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.




So I follow @PepitoTheCat on twitter, a twitter account that automatically informs followers when a black cat named Pépito goes in and out through his cat door, accompanied with a freeze frame from the security camera.

Last February, an impostor cat was spotted by everyone on the tl:

https://twitter.com/PepitoTheCat/status/1360938844649000966

And last night the little fucker showed up again!

https://twitter.com/PepitoTheCat/status/1378664141578194945

Who is this cat???

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005





My friends and I are doing a little comic-book reading club, and this week's book was I Kill Giants, and I noticed a neat little reference to All Star Superman.



FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Nope



I kill giants is a great way to get kids to start thinking/processing their trauma. I love that book to hell and back.

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.

FilthyImp posted:

I kill giants is a great way to get kids to start thinking/processing their trauma. I love that book to hell and back.

gently caress that book.

It made me cry.

Madkal
Feb 11, 2008

It was all going well, and then the parademons showed up


Fallen Rib

I love I Kill Giants. How's the movie? Worth watching?

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003

Get running
Start pumping your bunions, I'm coming
I'm the dumbest, who flamethrow your function to Funyons
Flame your crew quicker than Trump fucks his youngest
Now face the flame fuckers your fame and fate's done with





The movie's a solid adaptation, but it adds basically nothing.

Skwirl
May 13, 2007

The 'blood babe with the silicone chest, 200-dollar haircut, and a closet full of the latest fashions.




https://twitter.com/ParkerMolloy/status/1379404412771254273?s=20

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011

MENS REA? LOL MORE LIKE CHRIS REA AM I RITE





Lipstick Apathy

Have I been the villain all along?

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009




Is Dr. Doom parroting my ideas?








Because that's awesome!

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.

I mean, what do you think about RICHARDS?

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009




Uthor posted:

I mean, what do you think about RICHARDS?

I am pro-launching any building where he resides into space.

X-O
Apr 28, 2002

Long Live The King!



Random Stranger posted:

I am pro-launching any building where he resides into space.

I mean, so is Richards probably.

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018




https://twitter.com/THR/status/1379419372297523206?s=20

The details in this story about Joss basically line up with everything we've learned about the guy recently. But goddamn does Geoff Johns come across really loving bad too. The whole thing is worth reading but here are the Johns-related passages

quote:

Once Whedon got involved, Fisher says that Johns told him that it was problematic that Cyborg smiled only twice in the movie. Fisher says he later learned from a witness who participated in the investigation that Johns and other top executives, including then-DC Films co-chairman Jon Berg and Warners studio chief Toby Emmerich, had discussions in which they said they could not have "an angry Black man" at the center of the film. Johns' rep responds that once the chairman of the studio mandated a brighter tone for the film, all further discussions centered on "adding joy and hopefulness to all six superheroes. There are always conversations about avoiding any stereotype of race, gender or sexuality."

Johns told Fisher he should play the character less like Frankenstein and more like the kindhearted Quasimodo. Fisher says that in order to demonstrate the look he wanted, Johns dipped his shoulder in what struck Fisher as a servile posture. To Fisher, there was a big difference between portraying a character who was born with a disability versus one who had been transformed by trauma. And he felt Cyborg was a kind of modern-day Frankenstein. "I didn't have any intention of playing him as a jovial, cathedral-cleaning individual," he says.

Johns' representative responds: "Geoff gave a note using a fictional character as an example of a sympathetic man who is unhappy and has an inclination to hide from the world, but one whom the audience roots for because he has a courageous heart."

quote:

Johns' rep denies that he ever dismissed any comments, adding that Fisher knew Johns — whose spokesperson requested that he be identified as Lebanese American — "had evolved traditionally all-white DC properties like Shazam, Justice Society of America and others into diverse groups of heroes" in his extensive work as a comic book author.

quote:

The tension only escalated when the issue of having Cyborg say "booyah" arose. That phrase had become a signature of the character thanks to the animated Teen Titans shows, but the character had never said it in the comics or in the original script. Fisher says that Johns had approached Snyder about including the line, but the director didn't want any catchphrases. He managed the situation by putting the word on some signs in his version of the film, as an Easter egg. But Johns' rep says the entire studio believed the booyah line was "a fun moment of synergy."

Fisher says he doesn't see the word in itself as an issue, but he thought it played differently in a live-action film than the animated series. And he thought of Black characters in pop culture with defining phrases: Gary Coleman's "Whatchoo talkin' 'bout, Willis?"; Jimmie Walker's "Dy-no-mite!" As no one else in the film had a catchphrase, he says, "It seemed weird to have the only Black character say that."

With reshoots underway, Fisher says Whedon raised the issue again: "Geoff tells me Cyborg has a catchphrase," he told him.

quote:

Two individuals who worked on Syfy's Krypton TV series talked to Fisher about events that had taken place on the series.

Multiple sources tell THR that the show's creators were passionate about doing some nontraditional casting and that Regé-Jean Page, who would go on to become a breakout star of Bridgerton, had auditioned for the role of Superman's grandfather. But Johns, who was overseeing the project, said Superman could not have a Black grandfather. The creators also wanted to make one superhero character, Adam Strange, gay or bisexual. But sources say Johns vetoed the idea.

"Geoff celebrates and supports LGTBQ characters, including Batwoman, who in 2006 was re-introduced as LGBTQ in a comic-book series co-written by Johns," says Johns' rep in an email.

quote:

Several sources who spoke to Fisher around this time were willing to talk to a Warners investigator. Among them was writer Nadria Tucker, who tweeted Feb. 24: "I haven't spoken to Geoff Johns since the day on Krypton when he tried to tell me what is and is not a Black thing." Tucker tells THR that Johns objected when a Black female character's hairstyle was changed in scenes that took place on different days. "I said Black women, we tend to change our hair frequently. It's not weird, it's a Black thing," she says. "And he said, 'No, it's not.' "

Johns' spokesperson says: "What were standard continuity notes for a scene are being spun in a way that are not only personally offensive to Geoff, but to the people that know who he is, know the work he's done and know the life he lives, as Geoff has personally seen firsthand the painful effects of racial stereotypes concerning hair and other cultural stereotypes, having been married to a Black woman who he was with for a decade and with his second wife, who is Asian American, as well as his son who is mixed race."

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine


drrockso20 posted:

more Marvel Comics time;

Tales to Astonish #38: the debut of Egghead, actually a really fun story as the majority of it takes place from his perspective rather than Ant Man's

Incredible Hulk #5: so besides the fact that the second story in this issue is racist as hell there's also the fact that the Hulk as a character just does not work at all, at this point he's just an abrasive rear end in a top hat and not a funny or interesting one either

Journey Into Mystery #88: Loki returns in this story that's fun but nothing super special

Strange Tales #104: the introduction of possibly the doofiest villain of the entire Silver Age; Paste Pot Pete, in spite of that the story treats him as a serious foe for Human Torch to deal with and he's surprisingly competent for a villain of this era too, Human Torch manages to stop his plans but he manages to get away to freedom, setting him up as a recurrent foe of Johnny Storm, actually pretty decent story overall, the other two stories in this issue(for once the non-Human Torch stories were present in the scan I found) were kinda goofy and not too great

Fantastic Four #10: while Marvel has done some meta bits before this issue(see Reed using pinups of monsters from the monster comics in #2 to scare the Skrull Armada or Johnny reading a Hulk comic a couple issues ago) but this issue went heavy duty on it by having Stan Lee and Jack Kirby and the Marvel Comics offices appear directly in the story and play a major role in it, once again an excellent issue

just realized that it's been the better part of two months since I last did one of these posts, so back to my project of semi-chronologically reading through all of Marvel from Fantastic Four #1 onward with another five or so issue dump of my inane opinions;

Tales to Astonish #39: so this one is a weird one even by early Marvel standards, the Scarlet Beetle is one of the oddest villains of the era and yet another one defeated by vaguely unethical means(in his case the radiation that mutated him and granted him human intelligence is removed turning him back into a regular mindless beetle), also notably this is the first Ant-Man story where we see that his "growth gas" can grow things beyond their normal size, overall this story is continuing the trend where Ant-Man tend to be more interesting for the villains than for Ant-Man himself

Strange Tales #105: the Wizard makes his return in this "solo" Human Torch story(in truth Invisible Girl plays a big role in this one too) and you can tell Jack Kirby was having a wonderful time drawing this guy's goofy mug(some great potential avatars in this issue), overall a fun if relatively middle of the road story(Johnny is really starting to pull off some goofy tricks with his fire in these stories)

Journey Into Mystery #89: lord this issue has a ridiculously generic cover for an early Silver Age comic, just Thor making a pose, also this story has a very goofy start where in order to distract people so he can switch back to Donald Blake without getting noticed he dresses up a mannequin like himself and sends it flying over Manhattan, overall that's probably the most notable thing that happens in this issue, otherwise a fairly humdrum story about Thor taking on some mobsters

Fantastic Four #11: this issue starts off with some downright astoundingly shameless shilling of the very comic itself and a downright adorable scene with the FF hanging out with some young fans, and then we have the FF open some fan mail(and Thing gets pranked once again by the Yancy Street Gang) and then after testing out a new formula to turn Ben human again(which in it's favor does last more than a couple panels) we get some backstory on how Ben and Reed met in college and their activities during WW2(Ben as a Fighter Ace in the Pacific and Reed as an OSS agent in Occupied Europe) as well as some drama regarding Reed & Sue's romance due to doubt sown by Namor over the past few issues, as well as yet another recap of the FF's origins followed by a semi-Fourth Wall breaking bit where Reed & Ben confront reader accusations about Sue being useless(it doesn't really work but you can give them a couple points for trying) and then Ben goes back to being the Thing and we move on to the main story after celebrating Sue's birthday, which introduces The Impossible Man, which is interesting in that while he's definitely a destructive rear end in a top hat, a lot of the trouble happens because everyone else acts like an rear end in a top hat to him first, and indeed he's beaten by everyone on Earth engaging in a whole different form of assholery entirely, overall a fun issue

Tales to Astonish #40: not a bad story but really not much of anything to discuss about it beyond the novelty of Ant-Man faking a burst appendix as part of his plan to beat the villain of this story


so overall a decent crop of stories to make my return to this series of mine, though FF#11 is the only real standout story

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.

Just learned that the guys who run my LCBS have COVID. Judging by how many times I've seen them chatting with customers without a mask on, I'm hardly surprised! But that means I'll be a month behind on books by the time I get back in there.

Skwirl
May 13, 2007

The 'blood babe with the silicone chest, 200-dollar haircut, and a closet full of the latest fashions.




Uthor posted:

Just learned that the guys who run my LCBS have COVID. Judging by how many times I've seen them chatting with customers without a mask on, I'm hardly surprised! But that means I'll be a month behind on books by the time I get back in there.

I've books when Diamond hosed up shipping and my pull list was a day or two late. I went in and bought them when they were available, so I don't feel guilty.

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.

I've been working through X-Men books on Marvel Unlimited with some friends for a book club, so I have a lot to tide me over. I also have like half of the Humble Bundle that I bought a year ago to read.

I'm mostly glad I didn't stop in before Easter like I was planning on. Especially since I came to my parents house.

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Vincent
Nov 25, 2005





Comic Book Confidential is on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs4cj2_I9p8

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