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KaosMachina
Oct 9, 2012

There's nothing special about me.

With Invincible on Amazon Prime, that series is on my mind again, and I went back and reread the first two volumes, and something stuck out to me.

So, Kirkman's talked about how he pitched his Walking Dead comic to the publisher as "look, it's gonna be zombies at first, but then we're gonna reveal the twist that they're actually the first invasion wave for aliens!", and then when he told them that he lied about that after the sales figures came in, they laughed all the way to the bank about it. Paraphrased, but still.

I'm wondering if that's something like what he did with Invincible? Because, y'know, the thing that happens- Omni-Man killing the Global Guardians- happens after the first few issues of what appears to be a perfectly normal, kinda goofy superhero series. D'you think he had a plan to write a more straightforward story if the sales had been strong enough, or had the plan been the twist all along, and his real talent was just rolling his plot in whatever direction fit the tone of things? I dunno.

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Skwirl
May 13, 2007

The 'blood babe with the silicone chest, 200-dollar haircut, and a closet full of the latest fashions.




I don't think Kirkman plans more than a single arc ahead of time.

Inkspot
Dec 3, 2013

I believe I have
an appointment.
Mr. Goongala?


The original plan was for the twist to come up a couple years in, but sales were waning so the reveal got pushed forward.

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine


Inkspot posted:

The original plan was for the twist to come up a couple years in, but sales were waning so the reveal got pushed forward.

Personally I would have much rather Invincible and Kirkman's career had died in obscurity

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005





It was a good comic at first, but then it just didn't stop, which seems to be a problem with Kirkman.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010



So I'm interested in this but there's concerns about the packaging and image quality in the reviews. Thoughts?

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/aw/d/B07VGLHCJC/ref=ox_sc_act_image_1?smid=A1NFYUP9OOHACP&psc=1

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Nope



Vincent posted:

It was a good comic at first, but then it just didn't stop, which seems to be a problem with Kirkman.
Oh man did it EVER not stop.

You have MAJOR STORY SPOILERS INCOMING
the Onmi Man reveal, Mark hooking up with the Teen Guardians, some guy reanimating dudes as Canon fodder, Mark fighting with the US Gov, Robot being a weirdo 8chan Founder Gremlin, Robot getting a sexy teen clone body, Robot and Monster Gal getting stuck in the Lunkhead Dimension and MonsterGal going Poly on him, some brain dude that won't stop until Mark is dead, Atom Eve getting pregnant then kinda losing her powers, OmniMan turning a planet of BugPeople into a breeding ground, Mark getting Raped.... God almighty

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003

how few people do you
need before you can
change the world?


Omni Man only banged one bug. Thragg used the planet to breed disposable soldiers

How Wonderful!
Jul 18, 2006


I only have excellent ideas.


If the new thread title is too spoilery by some odd chance let me know, but I laughed too long and too loud at that post to let it slip away.

Splint Chesthair
Dec 27, 2004



FilthyImp posted:

Oh man did it EVER not stop.

You have MAJOR STORY SPOILERS INCOMING
the Onmi Man reveal, Mark hooking up with the Teen Guardians, some guy reanimating dudes as Canon fodder, Mark fighting with the US Gov, Robot being a weirdo 8chan Founder Gremlin, Robot getting a sexy teen clone body, Robot and Monster Gal getting stuck in the Lunkhead Dimension and MonsterGal going Poly on him, some brain dude that won't stop until Mark is dead, Atom Eve getting pregnant then kinda losing her powers, OmniMan turning a planet of BugPeople into a breeding ground, Mark getting Raped.... God almighty

I don't want to come off like I'm defending Kirkman's shortcomings as a storyteller, but I feel like you could make a list like this just as easily for Spider-Man, if not easier.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003

how few people do you
need before you can
change the world?


Rhyno posted:

Omni Man only banged one bug. Thragg used the planet to breed disposable soldiers

I mean it's an accurate account of the events

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.

Uthor posted:

Has InStockTrades just become really slow to ship orders? It took about 3 weeks to get something over Xmas (understandable) and my latest order has been "waiting to process" for a week so far.

I'm sure they're running on a skeleton crew, but I'd hate to have to go back to Amazon if I need something in a timely manner (this was a gift that I'm probably going to not get in time).

Update on this: order placed 3/25, shipping label created 4/2, actually shipped 4/13 after emailing them and complaining (didn't get a response to my email), will probably get delivered on Monday. I'm a patient person, but I'm super not happy about this.

Any other decent trade sellers out there not run by chuds?

X-O
Apr 28, 2002

Long Live The King!



I stopped reading Invincible somewhere around issue 70 I believe and I think I'll eventually pick it back up. I didn't dislike it, I just kind of lost track of it. The gore is a bit off putting at times but it's not a total dealbreaker to me. I did finish Tech Jacket and Astounding Wolf-Man and I think both of those are way better books though and I'm sad they never hit the same level of success as Invincible or Walking Dead. That being said the best thing I've ever read by Kirkman was easily Super Dinosaur. I loved that book.

How Wonderful!
Jul 18, 2006


I only have excellent ideas.


Hey everyone, I have a doctorate now so please let me know if you need a prescription... for comics and fun

Minister of Sound
Jan 1, 2007

Damn, I wish I was your lett'rer!

Congratulations!

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003

how few people do you
need before you can
change the world?


How Wonderful! posted:

Hey everyone, I have a doctorate now so please let me know if you need a prescription... for comics and fun

What can you prescribe me for this uncontrollable hate of John Byrne?

Skwirl
May 13, 2007

The 'blood babe with the silicone chest, 200-dollar haircut, and a closet full of the latest fashions.




Rhyno posted:

What can you prescribe me for this uncontrollable hate of John Byrne?

Xanax?

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003

how few people do you
need before you can
change the world?


Is that one of the new Hickman books?

Madkal
Feb 11, 2008

It was all going well, and then the parademons showed up


Fallen Rib

How Wonderful! posted:

Hey everyone, I have a doctorate now so please let me know if you need a prescription... for comics and fun

What can you prescribe for good upbeat comics?

site
Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch


Rhyno posted:

What can you prescribe me for this uncontrollable hate of John Byrne?

Are you in a legal medicinal weed state

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Skwirl
May 13, 2007

The 'blood babe with the silicone chest, 200-dollar haircut, and a closet full of the latest fashions.




Madkal posted:

What can you prescribe for good upbeat comics?

Bad Machinery, Giant Days.

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