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Please pray for my friend Shaun who has a health scare. He lives in Japan and they think he might have the big C (not Covid, the other one). Thankfully he lives in Japan (he's Canadian though) so he has good access to healthcare and will be taken care of. Still worrying. He's had an autoimmune issue recently and they don't know what's up. Please pray for him and his family!
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Long time. I hope everyone is well. Any other Muslims here yet? Jupiter Jazz fucked around with this message at 03:28 on Sep 9, 2021 |
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Fritz the Horse posted:Howdy! Good! I wanted to share this video as a dialogue with the Christian friends in this thread. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6NWfVWxqSM I know things are tense between our religions but they don't need to be. We share a lot in common.
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Fritz the Horse posted:This was great thanks! I'm midway through the question section. Yeah I meant the tension in the general sense. I'm glad you like the video.
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Sep 9, 2021 04:45
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Cyrano4747 posted:. . . what? When I first got into Islam about a decade ago, my mom said we worship a different God but it was a different time and there was less acceptance then. docbeard posted:Really? I've seen the question raised a lot in Christian circles (with most people thankfully concluding that the people who thought the Christian and Muslim Gods were different were wrong). Here's the thing: I would be a Jew. Except I believe Jesus really was Messiah and the Jewish faith is pretty exclusionary and consider themselves special. But don't think he should be worshipped because he himself only prayed to God of Abraham. This makes Islam and maybe Messianic Judaism or Unitarianism the only options for me so the idea we don't worship the same God is preposterous to me. A lot of Christians say Judeo-Christian to specifically exclude Islam from the Abrahamic tradition. Jupiter Jazz fucked around with this message at 15:06 on Sep 9, 2021 |
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Sep 9, 2021 14:58
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D34THROW posted:Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are all Abrahamic religions. Hell, even the non-Abrahamic religions...I don't look at my job as a Christian to be judging others for worshipping other gods. I am thankful that I know people of other religions, aren't we all supposed to be tolerant of one another? Religious conflict makes me hella sad, I just want everyone to break bread together and realize that if we were all the same this world would be boring as hell. What I find fascinating is the commonalities they share which tells me in the end most religions are striving for the same thing.
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Sep 9, 2021 15:13
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:This also led to Judaism being radically reoriented towards rabbis to the point that quite a few religious scholars don’t consider Judaism pre and post-Titus to be the same religion. What?! I'd like to learn more about this.
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Sep 9, 2021 16:40
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:Secular religion scholars (religion professors at a secular college as opposed to guys who go to seminary) like to think about religion differently than normal people who don’t waste away in academia like to think about religion. One of the big questions there is what makes one religion different than another and since it’s academia they need something more substantial than “I know it when I see it.” Obviously it can’t be what god you worship otherwise as pointed out on this page in a different conversation Judaism, Christianity, and Islam would all be the same religion, a conclusion nobody would accept. I disagree with your conclusions. As we are human and life is hard, we will suffer whether we surrender to Allah or not. As Lot ascertained, suffering will happen even to the more surest of believers. Also, as an addendum, as the Buddha said,"life is suffering." I feel like many religions around the world do try to answer the question of,"why do we suffer?' but I don't think the Abrahamic religions are asking that question. Actually, I think we are asking but it's not the main thing we're asking and it's one of many questions. I think the main Abrahamic concern is on truths of this life and this universe.
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Sep 9, 2021 18:00
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Freudian posted:
I never saw this comic so I looked it up and it's woefully offensive. https://www.chick.com/products/tract?stk=0042
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Sep 9, 2021 18:07
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Cyrano4747 posted:If it makes you feel any better, Chick tracts are offensive to pretty much everyone. They've got a comic tailored to insult and offend just about any type of person you can imagine, all in the name of their conception of god. Apparently they're Evangelical. What is with Evangelical's and their prideful theism?
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Sep 9, 2021 18:16
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:Islam is the world religion I know the least about so I was really saying that for the sake of example and I will defer to your explanation of islamic beliefs on this issue. However I am going to insist that the question of suffering is one all religions deal with, struggle with, and are integral to the religion itself. one of the first questions a child will ask when learning a religion is: "Why do bad things happen to good people?" religions require time, dedication, and effort. People pursue them because they believe they will make their life better and bring happiness either in this world or the next. I would say that achieving eternal life, paradise, reunion with Brahman, nirvana etc. are all final and complete alleviations of suffering. If I were to poll believers of assorted religions they would probably name these things as being goals in their pursuit of this religion. In the case of Buddhism, it's definitely rooted in suffering. I'm not disputing that. I'm just saying that for the Abrahamic religions it feels like a side question.
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Cythereal posted:They'd be lovely people regardless of their religious beliefs, every faith and belief system has awful people. Evangelicals are just in the news a lot in the present day. Sorry. I've had really bad experiences with Evangelicals, first as s Catholic who was told I would burn in hell for that alone, and second as a Muslim who was told the same for being Muslim. Evangelical friend told me she was looking forward to seeing me in heaven and is sad she won't because I will be in hell as a Muslim. Things like that. Then there's the whole "masks are an agent of Satanism" streak she's been doing. Jupiter Jazz fucked around with this message at 22:33 on Sep 9, 2021 |
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I know every faith has its extremists especially when I speak as a Muslim but my personal in person experiences with Evangelicals hasn't been the best. I'll be cognizant not trying to judge the entire bunch in the future.
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Sep 9, 2021 22:38
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You have the cutest gifs.
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I'm really appreciative of it as well. When I professed my Islamic views to some Christian folks I knew they got seriously offended. To their credit, perhaps I did not articulate myself in the best manner. When I first started questioning Christianity and wanted to seek help from Jewish folks I was sent to some Church with a pretty open pastor and she was offended I'd even question Jesus being God when I was just asking questions. I've been on r/debatereligion which is mostly filled with atheists without one shred of good faith and been around the whole block trying to discuss the various Abrahamic faiths without people wanting to kill one another. It's really refreshing.
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D34THROW posted:Lord knows I needed Him in my life. My wife started finding Him last year, but I was too mired in a porn addiction to really be with her on that journey. Hard to talk about, but now that discovery has happened again, I'm trying to not white-knuckle it for a change, and I'm trying to study the Bible and highlight and make note of verses that stick with me, and to journal. Just...not trying to white-knuckle it anymore, it doesn't work. I feel you. I've been struggling myself. Womanizing, drinking. The pandemic has been hard and lonely but these setbacks allow us to grow.
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Sep 13, 2021 15:33
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D34THROW posted:"Even When You're Running" always makes me think of my past...sixteen years of my life spent battling porn, turning my face from God, and He was right there when I was ready. Frankly, no offense, but I think I'll keep it to myself and God. Whenever I articulate myself to goons they get offended. I appreciate the offer. Better to keep what I think on the inside when communicating with goons.
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Captain von Trapp posted:In our culture, thinking porn is bad is weird at best. I think that women should dress more modestly and find the way many women dress demeans them. They decry constant sexualization of women in media and advertising while walking around yoga pants and booty shorts. I give all sorts of people throughout all walks of life respect but I respect a woman that dresses in a simple skirt (not too short, not so tight it shows the shape of her butt) that much more. So many women resort to dressing for male attention and are mad when they received it. That's considered weird and I'm accused of being sexist and "problematic" especially by people that lean left (or goons). I'm pretty positive the rest of this thread will judge me, as have others, for posting this. Jupiter Jazz fucked around with this message at 02:50 on Sep 14, 2021 |
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TOOT BOOT posted:Who is 'they'? The women complaining aren't necessarily the same people as the women wearing booty shorts. You'd be surprised.
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Keromaru5 posted:My priest has talked about how some teenage girls in our congregation get made fun of by their friends for dressing more modestly, even if only on Sundays. What amazes me is that modern society has deluded many women into thinking that dressing loosely gives them freedom when it just makes them eye candy for men. I have seen women that dress modestly laughed at for lacking "fashion" and "taking womens clothes back to the 1930's." These same women decry being sexualized. Okay. Pick one. And the next fad in society? Women seeking Brazilian Butt Lifts.
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Cyrano4747 posted:Ehhhhh, I'll just kinda throw out there that a lot of women can get treated pretty abhorrently while dressed in ways that wouldn't cause a stir at a Sunday prayer meeting. Dressing "modestly" (however you want to define that) isn't always protection from getting creeped on. Sexual harassment happens to people wearing literal work coveralls. I don't think anyone should be treated badly based on how they dress. But it's human for the mind to categorize.
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Killingyouguy! posted:I could be tits out naked and it'd still be on you to see and treat me as the whole person with a complex internal world worthy of respect that I am. In an ideal world, maybe. I may treat you as a person with a kind hand but unless you're mentally ill (of which I might come to the conclusion to if I see you out naked) I would definitely still judge you the way you're judging me right now.
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Told you I should have kept it to myself.
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Fritz the Horse posted:I don't have any objection to the idea of... moderate modesty. For all genders. Bingo. I dress in suits and polos. Let's not continue to blame the media. People choose to objectify themselves.
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Sep 14, 2021 12:45
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Killingyouguy! posted:I sincerely do not think anyone starts their day thinking 'today I want to be seen and treated as less than human'. No one said anything about being treated "less than human". This is your own personal supposition and failure. There are many reasons women dress the way they do. But at the end of the day, there's a river of difference between "fun" (which women that dress that invite into their lives) and someone of more substance. In our society which takes away accountability, it's suggested that you don't deserve to be held to a higher standard. Your post even says judgement isn't deserved. I don't really care. But most women that dress that way do so for male attention. Women like the attention while simultaneously expressing dislike. Many women are enraptured with low self esteem and getting male attention soothes that. So they dress loosely. It helps them feel good about themselves while also allowing them to pick up potential lovers because it acts as a beacon. They might turn down one guy but if Chad knocks on her door while wearing what she's got on she's definitely not saying no. Instead it'll be considered a successful hunt. Men tend to hunt and women tend to draw men in with lure. A tight dress with double D bra acts as a pretty good lure. They know what they're doing and it's a mating tactic and almost all about either power or seduction or the power of seduction. But it still draws a specific kind of man. Me, I personally don't go for women like that and I would assume a lot of men in this thread (especially of the Orthodox tradition) wouldn't either. It's nice to feel something. Doesn't change the reality of this world. Men tick off boxes in our brains. Fun and wife material. A woman dressed in specific ways might be categorized as fun. Nothing more. Does this mean I treat ladies that dress loosely badly? No. I look them in the eye even when they have their breasts revealed (another mate tactic. show off your boobs but get mad when men look. Here's the kicker: they want you to look because it circles back to the topic brought up above: they get attention). But in the back of my mind I'm still applying the higher standard. I'm just more willing than most to admit it. I don't care if it's seen as "sexist". It doesn't change the truth of the matter. In today's hyper sexualized society there are many women that try to get men's attention using their body. A woman that that dresses more modestly in today's world? That says a lot about her character. It makes her stand out and makes her more unique and worth getting to know more because the other women crave attention. Does this mean their actual character stands to their outside reflection? Not necessarily. I've met many beasts with a beautiful exterior but again, in this culture, it does make you stand out which increases their worth. Night10194 posted:I would appreciate prayers for the sake of my kidney. There's a possibility I've figured out what's been messing it up and God willing, changing one of my medications might fix it. Praying for you. Jupiter Jazz fucked around with this message at 20:45 on Sep 14, 2021 |
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