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The series had a gift for using actors in unusual ways. "A Game of Pool" featured Jack Klugman and Jonathan Winters as legendary pool players. The episode is almost an essay about the value of being the best ever. Winters is know for mugging for the camera in almost every role he takes but in this one he plays it absolutely dead calm and serious.
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Darth Brooks posted:The series had a gift for using actors in unusual ways. "A Game of Pool" featured Jack Klugman and Jonathan Winters as legendary pool players. The episode is almost an essay about the value of being the best ever. Winters is know for mugging for the camera in almost every role he takes but in this one he plays it absolutely dead calm and serious. Jack Klugman is in a few Twilight Zone episodes and he's really good in them. The one I always remember is "In Praise of Pip" where he spends an evening with his son at the boardwalk. I don't want to say more so as not to spoil anything, but definitely check that one out if you all haven't.
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Jan 17, 2021 19:44
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the twilight zone owned because: 1. great stories 2. great writing 3. great acting 4. great production 5. rod serling
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Jan 17, 2021 19:52
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Darth Brooks posted:but in this one he plays it absolutely dead calm and serious. Full Metal Jackass posted:Was it an outer limits episode where some alien ship lands and it's hosed up ants with people faces attacking the humans? Lol outer limits was a dumb person's twilight zone.  I like to think that TZ drew from strong influences and its team, direction, etc helped to elevate the material. We remember Shatner's mania as much as we remember the goofy teddy-bear gremlin. Outer Limits was more pulp. Like it would be the kind of radio drama that would talk about Atomic Lunches and Rocket Cars kind of poo poo. Its ambition exceeded the budgets for creature effects at the time, and I think the emphasis on effects vs people make it misfire. The 90s revival was in a better place to take advantage of things so you get more memorable pieces (like the nanotechnology guy that cures his cancer but also gets gills because the bots go "we can make this better!"). There's a few OL eps that hit above their weight. Like one where someone develops a panopticon device that can go into everyone's home. It's, of course, evil aliens at the end, but the implications are good and chilling and prescient. FilthyImp fucked around with this message at 20:00 on Jan 17, 2021 |
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Jan 17, 2021 19:57
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i think at least a small part of the appeal of twilight zone was that it avoided "monster-of-the-week" syndrome which seemed to infect other contemporary sci-fi to a greater or lesser degree. the fuzzball on the wing looking at capt kirk was the exception rather than the rule.
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Jan 17, 2021 20:07
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what are people's thoughts on the twilight zone relaunch prior to this one, from the 2000s
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Jan 17, 2021 20:14
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Jose Oquendo posted:Jack Klugman is in a few Twilight Zone episodes and he's really good in them. The one I always remember is "In Praise of Pip" where he spends an evening with his son at the boardwalk. I don't want to say more so as not to spoil anything, but definitely check that one out if you all haven't. Another thing that gets me about the show , to follow up Dee Eight's five-point breakdown, like... the farther back you go in television OR movies, usually the more horrifyingly stilted and boring acting gets, with a few noteworthy exceptions. Twilight Zone is hardly universally good, but there are so many drat good performances on the show. Speaking of great performances, gonna highlight the George Takei episode THE ENCOUNTER here because after its initial viewing it was never shown again for something like 40 years, and it is absolutely horrifying in good ways; I imagine George Takei's resurgence in popularity has to help explain why it was finally let out of the "scary to talk about racism" quarantine. Plus the ending few minutes of THE ENCOUNTER is written almost certainly not at all like it would be today, which also makes it fascinating to watch
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Jan 17, 2021 20:15
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Rockman Reserve posted:what are people's thoughts on the twilight zone relaunch prior to this one, from the 2000s
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Darth Brooks posted:The series had a gift for using actors in unusual ways. "A Game of Pool" featured Jack Klugman and Jonathan Winters as legendary pool players. The episode is almost an essay about the value of being the best ever. Winters is know for mugging for the camera in almost every role he takes but in this one he plays it absolutely dead calm and serious. That episode cost $7k to make with $375.00 going to klugman and winters combined. Jonathan Winters wrote to Serling asking to be in an episode. For reference, most episodes cost around $60k to make. The Twilight Zone: Unlocking the Door to a Television Classic https://www.amazon.com/dp/0970331096/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glc_fabc_.5ibGbPGVH0P7 I picked this up for $2 at a thrift store a couple years ago and it’s fantastic. It has production costs of each episode, detailed background information. Looks like the cheapest online is $40. If you’re in this thread and ever see it for less then $20 buy it. It’s awesome. One fun thing that I always missed in “Will the Real Martian Please Stand Up” that I didn’t catch until I had captions on. The goofy guy with the mustache sitting at the counter gets a bill for $1.10 for 11 cups of coffee. All the characters are talking at once so it’s really hard to hear. The episode cost $45k to make.
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Jan 17, 2021 20:37
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Man I miss hungover New Year's Day Twilight Zone marathon binges
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Jan 17, 2021 20:40
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The main problem with Night Of The Meek is that it was shot on video and looks like absolute dogshit. It's otherwise a masterpiece.
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Jan 17, 2021 22:22
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dee eight posted:the twilight zone owned because:  Checks out
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Jan 17, 2021 22:27
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okay a ton of us have watched all or most of The Twilight Zone and its wheat to chaff ratio is good enough that it's definitely worth it but what about Night Gallery? i'm gonna go ahead and assume it was pretty forgettable and only had a few good eps. where is the goon who will step up and watch it all and tell me, a lazy entitled rear end in a top hat, which episodes are actually worth watching?
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Jan 17, 2021 22:33
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eSports Chaebol posted:okay a ton of us have watched all or most of The Twilight Zone and its wheat to chaff ratio is good enough that it's definitely worth it Oh NBC, so is it on .... PEACOCK?
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Jan 17, 2021 22:50
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Quotey posted:i would pick a computer. but that's cool too. I meant 1 pinball machine, pardon my unclear remark 
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Jan 17, 2021 22:55
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Grem posted:I liked the one where the gambling dude wanted to win then never lost and was told it was heaven but never losing isn't very fun and it turns out he's in hell. Sebastian Cabot has such a devilishly evil, yet mirthful belly laugh at the end of the episode that I think anyone else in his role would have made the ending less impactful. It's the perfect "gotcha" laugh.
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Jan 17, 2021 23:00
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i liked night gallery ok. if rod serling expected it to be anything more than twilight zone in different clothes, i dunno, but i watched with pretty much that mindset and wasn't horribly disappointed.
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Jan 17, 2021 23:08
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came up with a good one for the zone haters to use rod turdling
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Jan 17, 2021 23:20
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dee eight posted:i liked night gallery ok. if rod serling expected it to be anything more than twilight zone in different clothes, i dunno, but i watched with pretty much that mindset and wasn't horribly disappointed. ive never seen it but i watched somethign about rod serling once (i cant remember where) and my takeaway was that NBC execs did as execs do and thought "wow this guy made a great show people like with his creative freedom, let's give him a show and limit his creative freedom and clearly it will be even better"
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Not only did he have to deal with cbs. But he also had to get the script approved by the lead sponsor of the show. “Gee, these aliens are a bit too controversial for L&M cigarettes, we think the episode could use a talking car. Also the car should suggest the characters enjoy a smooth L&M cigarette to calm their nerves. And no black people.”
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Jan 17, 2021 23:48
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That one where that alien man traveled to the planet where he was the only person with an orange face and he fell in love with hamburgers and then he was the catalyst needed to show everyone the hellscape that was their society.
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Jan 17, 2021 23:55
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bossy lady posted:Sterling's opinions on war and imperialism were so apparent. I always loved this bit from "no time like the past". Lowkey missing the days when grizzled pacifists could get cast by stud actors.
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Jan 18, 2021 00:01
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eSports Chaebol posted:but what about Night Gallery? i'm gonna go ahead and assume it was pretty forgettable and only had a few good eps. where is the goon who will step up and watch it all and tell me, a lazy entitled rear end in a top hat, which episodes are actually worth watching? Night Gallery seemed to really dive hard into the horror elements, from what I could tell of the few I watched. They also tended to bookend their episodes with a horror-comedy short (like the photographer that goes to Dracula's tomb and becomes lunch). It's not a terrible series, but it doesn't hold a candle to TZ as it doesn't reach for the lofty themes that made TZ episodes stand out.
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Jan 18, 2021 00:46
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IIRC, Serling basically did Night Gallery for the money, and so didn't take it nearly as seriously as he did TZ, which is likely why he did more straight horror/supernatural stuff on NG instead of the political allegory/social commentary that featured a lot on TZ.
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Jan 18, 2021 00:59
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did anyone like the peele revival?
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Jan 18, 2021 01:02
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Rinkles posted:did anyone like the peele revival? I was just writing something about it. It's OK. The show is basically stuck up its own rear end and everything it addresses is laughably on the nose. It's not clever or smart about any of the topics it discusses.
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Jan 18, 2021 01:04
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Sounds like newer Star Trek-- a franchise burdened by its own legacy and written by people who understand what it was, but not how to carry it forward without indulging in really bad contemporary habits.
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Jan 18, 2021 01:13
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The only thing I know about the Peele revival is that it reveals how utterly clueless people managed to be about the very obvious commentary of the original Twilight Zone because you see people bitching about the remake on social media and it being "too political" compared to the original series which is lol because political and social commentary is the core of the original series.
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Jan 18, 2021 01:14
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Jose Oquendo posted:I was just writing something about it. "Blurryman" After rewriting the opening narration for an episode of The Twilight Zone starring Seth Rogen and Betty Gabriel for Jordan Peele, screenwriter and Twilight Zone fan Sophie Gelson discovers someone changed it to be about her. She later notices a mysterious blurry figure appearing in the background of several scenes as well as scenes from previous episodes. While searching for Jordan, Sophie encounters the Blurryman, who chases her through the studio and triggers a flashback to her childhood. After a brief encounter with Jason Priestley, she hands a new version of the narration to Jordan before finding herself in the world of the iconic episode "Time Enough at Last." When she finally encounters the Blurryman and agrees to hear it out, the Blurryman reveals himself as original series host Rod Serling. Claiming that they have "a lot of work to do," Serling escorts Sophie through a door into the Twilight Zone. Black Mirror is pretty much the successor series to TZ now
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Jan 18, 2021 01:22
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FilthyImp posted:Black Mirror is pretty much the successor series to TZ now
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Jan 18, 2021 01:28
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FilthyImp posted:The last episode of the first season has an ending so bad I've never considered looking at the drat series -- I must have repressed this memory. I watched the whole first season and I don't remember that at all.
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Jan 18, 2021 01:31
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Dr. Quarex posted:I watched every episode from about April to June, and I actually put together a list of all the ones I thought are still genuinely worth watching even now. With a bonus list of all the ones that I still did not regret watching but that are not exactly must-see. I think overall I put more than half of the episodes on one of the two lists, which is mind-blowingly amazing for a show starting in the 1950s. That is impressive for a show from the 2000s, honestly No "Nick of Time"???
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Dick York did a couple Twilight Zone episodes, of which I think this is the best one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Penny_for_Your_Thoughts_(The_Twilight_Zone) If you like the original Twilight Zone I'd also recommend checking out the original Alfred Hitchcock Presents - different tone but also had a lot of amazing episodes.
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Jan 18, 2021 01:38
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CaptainSarcastic posted:Dick York did a couple Twilight Zone episodes, of which I think this is the best one: Yes Alfred Hitchcock is really good. Even if the episode isn't that great, Hitchcock's host segments are always great. I also like how he got around standards & practices. They would demand that the shows have happy endings. Like, if the episode was about a criminal or if the protagonist did something bad, they'd require that person to get caught and go to jail. So to get around it, Hitchcock would write and film it as he intended, in this case, the person getting away with whatever did. The episode would end like that, and then in his closing segment he'd have a throwaway line like, "And they got caught and went to jail." Such a great solution to the poo poo he had to deal with. Another good anthology show is Thriller, hosted by Boris Karloff. All the episodes are up on Youtube.
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Jan 18, 2021 01:42
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Jose Oquendo posted:I must have repressed this memory. I watched the whole first season and I don't remember that at all. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p697t5Loiv4
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Jan 18, 2021 01:45
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Just watched an episode with two astronauts who find tiny people and the twist is that they're really just far away.
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Jan 18, 2021 01:55
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Watch his old tv interviews on YouTube. They’re 20 minutes long and he’s smoking the entire time. They’re very interesting and offer a lot of insight. There’s one with Mike Wallace that I watched a few weeks ago I enjoyed.
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Jan 18, 2021 02:03
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FilthyImp posted:The last episode of the first season has an ending so bad I've never considered looking at the drat series -- Wow gently caress this
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the one where a hobo becomes Santa because he found Santa's suit, or maybe the magic gift bag? it was funny and light-hearted
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