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Chapter CLIII - I cannot wait to smash those who have deprived me of my true love.  There's a Sandrah shaped hole in our party and Pelligram has the task of filling it for the time being.  She doesn't have a bio.  Not much in the way of equipment either.  Her boot slot is occupied by this.  This is the only other unique item she has.  We hack and slash our way out of the temple.   Cyric's assassins are waiting for us outside.  As well as the man himself.  Said elites barely last a minute. Cyric doesn't return. After the battle I decided to check Pelligram's PIDs.  She reveals a bit about her heritage and connection to Mystra.  Personally I think Pelligram just doesn't want the responsibility.  Well, when you put it like that...  That's pretty much it as far as Pelligram's PIDs are concerned. Let's get out of here.  I am tired. So, so tired.   This might be touching if it was competently written.  On our way back we pay another visit to this house.  Sweet revenge!  One of them's a bit slow on the uptake, he falls like the rest.  They all carry these blades.  We leave Wheloon, go through Morbryn's Shield and head for High Hedge.    What a nuisance.  Nashkel it is.  The temple to be specific.  Haha gently caress you  Back to High Hedge again. We are truly undertaking a quest of epic proportions.  Mystra's death is causing all kinds of chaos, the guards immediately attack the priest of Talos.  I don't think her blessing counts for much these days.   We manage to find the item we were looking for, everything's going smooth so far.  I guess I spoke too soon. It's an easy fight regardless.  Our next stop is Qilandrha, on our way there we run into two familiar faces.    The shortcut is unavailable at the moment so we have to take the long way around.  We run into some resistance in the sewers.  Mur'neth is a mod NPC for BG1 that I didn't install, he only had a couple of lines with Sandrah anyway so we didn't miss much. Despite that fact he still faces us here.  The rest of the journey is uneventful and we reach Qilandrha's enclave.  You misunderstand why I'm grieving, I'd wager.  She gives us the item and we can leave.  At least we don't have to travel far.  We head for Midnight's house.  Pelligram immediately heads for Midnight in a cutscene.  I found that out the hard way. 153 chapters of this poo poo...    My wisdom and intelligence scores are both 14, by the way.   And so up the stairs we went.  The stairs to the third floor are a bit hidden but they're there, trust me.  Yes, let's...   We have to place the items in their corresponding flames for the ritual to work.  While we're doing so we stop and talk to Larloch for a bit.  The ritual is just as anticlimactic as you might expect. Sandrah materializes and runs towards us. While this is happening Pelligram changes back into her panther form.  Sandrah's back!  ...Oh God she's back.  There's only one star of the show, let's be honest.  Larloch walks off, he played his part.  It is with this Rob Riefeld rendition of Sandrah's portrait that I leave you. Next time we'll put some more dents in the phalanx and welcome an old friend back into our party. Vichan fucked around with this message at 12:23 on Nov 7, 2021 |
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I am 'happy' to report that I seem to have managed to start Time of Troubles Revisited which means that I'll actually be able to finish the LP.
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I know this is kind of whatever at this point but it still gets me that Vichan is ostensibly the god of hope and love but everyone is clearly acting like that's Sandrah's portfolio.
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Leraika posted:I know this is kind of whatever at this point but it still gets me that Vichan is ostensibly the god of hope and love but everyone is clearly acting like that's Sandrah's portfolio. Wait til you hear who the protagonist of Baldur's Gate was supposed to have been
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It is amazing how Sandrah remain exactly as insufferable as she could be, absent or present.
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And to think i was almost happy there for a moment
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docbeard posted:Wait til you hear who the protagonist of Baldur's Gate was supposed to have been Not Sandrah??????????????????????????
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vilkacis posted:And to think i was almost happy there for a moment there truly is no escape from the Beast not even death
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For a second I thought Sandrah might have actually been outflanked and escaping death was her back-up plan, but nope, of course it was just another stroke of genius, because Sandrah cannot fail, Sandrah can only be failed. I've overestimated the plot yet again. And to hammer the lesson home, she has to force in a random mod NPC to get shat all over.
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Vichan posted:I am 'happy' to report that I seem to have managed to start Time of Troubles Revisited which means that I'll actually be able to finish the LP. thank you for your service o7
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Chapter CLIV - Ha, you will have a new definition what PAIN is when I'm through with you this evening, (Hiss!)  Pelligram: Sorta gone but not forgotten.  Now that's Sandrah's back it's time to continue doing....whatever the hell it is we're doing nowadays.  I love how Sandrah has to butt in and explain her connection to Cyric just as my connection to him was established. Anyway, accepting Kelemvor's invitation takes us to...  The Firewine ruins, Velsheroon and his goons are already here.  Shortly afterwards Kelemvor arrives.  Velsharoon has been a remarkably menacing villain so far, in large part due to the fact that he never said a word.  Even that is taken away from us as the two exchange award-worthy dialogue.  Kelemvor summons some allies and Velsharoon storms off.  I assumed that the two would fight each other but they simply refused to do so, I had to teleport my party into the arena just to progress.  Velsharoon was cowering in the corner of the map.   A disappointing end to a very promising beginning. More than can be said about the rest of this mod. We're teleported to Firewine Bridge after the fight...  ...Where we're immediately faced with another encounter.  Shyntlara kidnaps L'Urieet and teleports away. Only a few spiders to fight, no biggie.  Sounds like a plan, before doing so we're going to have to do something about our empty party slot.  Beggars can't be choosers, I suppose.  His quest starts almost immediately, more on that later.  Yeah, right.    You can guess where this is going, right?  Like clockwork.  Time to head back to the Underdark.  The entrance is sealed, however...  Back to Waterdeep, I guess. *sigh*  Cut it out, you two!   I said cut it out!   And now it's back to Athkatla. I'm sick and tired of running around...  Speaking of being sick and tired of stuff...  From the temple we head to the sewers, past the Unseeing Eye compound right into the beholder's lair.  Character assassination incoming.  The spectator teleports us from one beholder lair to the other.  We've only been here for a few minutes and already I'm severely regretting my decision...  Ust Natha has seen better days.     This place is mostly deserted but otherwise unchanged.  Let's take a minute to enjoy this sight.  L'Urieet is related to the Ust Natha leadership, huh? Figures. I wonder what Xulaye is doing right now.  Good, I could use a drink.  Sandrah rallies the drow and thinks of a plan. (Is Merinid supposed to be a pirate?)  I can't believe that worked.  Inside we find L'urieet in the midst of combat, as well as...    The resulting battle is extremely chaotic.  Shyntlara gets taken down...  ...And the Spider Queen follows her soon afterwards.  Sweet.  This fire teleports us out of this place.  And that's it for L'Urieet. I wish her luck in her future endeavors, she's probably going to need it.  Nothing left to do but head for the exit...  ...And return to the surface. Next time we'll stop dilly-dallying and head back to Thay to finish this thing once and for all. Vichan fucked around with this message at 12:24 on Nov 7, 2021 |
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...There are so many questions I could be asking, but I got caught up on wondering why a holy symbol of Lolth continues to function after Lolth has literally been murdered. Also, poor Lolth.
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 Sandrah has just got all she needed out of you at this point so she's moving on with chicken boy. Classic. Explopyro posted:...There are so many questions I could be asking, but I got caught up on wondering why a holy symbol of Lolth continues to function after Lolth has literally been murdered. It's just her avatar that went down, the death of which will sting a bit but won't provide a lasting problem. Now, why the holy symbol of Lolth would function for anyone she doesn't want it to, on the other hand? 
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Chapter CLV - I surely have deserved a glass of Thayan wine or two accompanied by some equally sweet kisses from my wife (Oh, those drow skills..mmh). We're finally ready to go back to Thay.  I chose to walk to Bezantur just to spite Sandrah.  We're ambushed by a wizard along the way.  Very dark, I know.  Baylan Gael immediately approaches us and takes us to...  An area of Bezantur we haven't explored yet. Not that there's much to explore.  Something went horribly wrong here.  Ah, that might explain it.  Why are the villains so excessively stupid? Just to make Sandrah look smart?   Sandrah and Shar duke it out for a bit.  Sandrah gets the upper hand, of course. But look who arrives...  Oh God...  Shar gets no respect.  JFC Sandrah you can't talk to Ao like that!   Ao tolerates Sandrah's impertinence and even gives us a compliment because of course he does.  Ao tells us to rein in Cyric and storms off with Shar in tow.   Remember those scrolls we picked up in Szass Tam's tower and the temple in Wheloon? Melicamp finally notices them.  Karsus' Pocket what now?  Looks like we have to find a way to the Citadel if we want to continue his quest.  Ithrash's house seems like a good place to start, yes.  While going there Ehrdwin appears and tells us to head to the Odesseiron Estate.  We immediately oblige him.  It makes for quite the tale, let me tell you.  Dunking on Edwin will never get old.  Not the best of plans but it's not like I have a choice.  What follows is quite a large battle.  We don't have to find them alone.  The Autharch finally dies for good.  Finally, a celebration of our efforts is long overdue.    Hear, hear!  Late in the night Samas seems to be in the mood for some lovin'.  Sandrah sees his betrayal coming from a mile away but inexplicably decides to get poisoned along with the rest anyway, after a fade to black...  Bugs, bugs, bugs.  The gang is captured yet again, Sandrah is kept separate from the rest.  Szass Tam and Samas Kul materialize.  Took him long enough.  Goodbye, Samas. You horny fool.  Good point, how on earth could you be this dumb?  This is Bond villain levels of stupidity...  ...And it only gets worse from there.  Sandrah immediately gets to work clearing the area of enemies.  Some knights arrive to stop us but we manage to stage a successful jailbreak.  With the hand in hand ( ) we can finally access that room in the Odesseiron Mausoleum. This kid gets around.  We leave the dungeon and enter...  ...The basement of the District Attorney's office, I was wondering when that place would come into play!  Melicamp and Sandrah immediately get busy seconds after tasting fresh air....  Heading back to the Odesseiron Estate there's another battle, including the toughest kobold you'll ever meet. An excessive amount of HP as well as a vast array of spells.  Strike while the iron is hot while the Red Hoods follow right behind us, sure...  Back to the Mausoleum.  Weren't you supposed to stop anyone coming through? Ugh, never mind...  We run into Balowol again fending off some enemies, we walk right past him...  ...And head back to the control room.  Colano pops in to let us know that Szass Tam went through here.  We place Sarevok's amulet and Szass' hand in their respective places...  ...And get teleported to a stable of all places. Next time we'll explore the Citadel on Thaymount and face Szass Tam himself! Vichan fucked around with this message at 12:24 on Nov 7, 2021 |
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I've managed to pick things up again despite RL getting in the way a bit, the last two chapters of RtF should be up in the coming days. 
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I feel like, for some reason, the gods of the forgotten realms really weren't supposed to go around killing each other and causing havoc on the mortal plane. Can't remember why I'd think that, though. All hail Sandrah.
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Vichan posted:Why are the villains so excessively stupid? Just to make Sandrah look smart? bingo
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Ao can literally do anything on Toril. Anything. He can remake the weave instantly; or delete Sandrah from existence and give it some literally anyone else. Or whatever. You can't negotiate with him. He would just do to Sandrah what Helm did to Mystra. This whole thing has been pretty awful but that is somehow the most offensive.
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quote:Why are the villains so excessively stupid? Just to make Sandrah look smart? If you can't write an intelligent character, all you can do is make everyone else dumb to make them look better by comparison. quote:AAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaa. It's so bad!!! Vichan posted:I've managed to pick things up again despite RL getting in the way a bit, the last two chapters of RtF should be up in the coming days. Soon, you will be free!
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Also, way heroic of Sandrah to threaten with ...and didn't AO sanction this trip anyways? So he went from doing as Sandrah wished to antagonizing her so she can look cooler and such.
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Oct 16, 2021 19:41
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vilkacis posted:Soon, you will be free! Well, except for the lasting psychological damage.
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Alright, so this was just to whet the appetite for god slaying huh?
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Chapter CLVI - Dream on, fool. So yeah, stable. Let's head outside and get a lay of the land.  Much better.  Seems we've come to the right place!  Ankhegs and Treants are the enemies we face here.  The entrance to the Citadel is well guarded, it took quite some effort to push through.  Almost looks like an alternate version of Windspear Hills, doesn't it? Time to head inside.  These enemies are troglodytes, they're pretty weak.  Kind of a weird place for a fountain but soothing nonetheless.  The skeleton-spawning necromancers are back again, there are two of them on this floor.  Drow are also present, the wizards put up quite a fight.  Step on the platform and low level enemies spawn, completely useless otherwise.   The library does have a book that might be worth keeping.   We'd better hang on to this coal as well.  See what happens when you leave the guys alone?  The aftermath is satisfying at least.  That's it for this first area, otherwise known as 'Troglodyte Hall' in the guide.  Really getting a lot of mileage out of Planescape:Torment dungeons, Roxanne...  Gotta justify these somewhat-fresh corpses somehow, I suppose.  Some more coal to be found here.  Creepy.  Nothing worth mentioning about the rest of this area dubbed 'Lieutenant's Quarter'  Baldur's Gate 1's dungeons were unbearable when it came to pathfinding, in no small part due to Pelligram and Haiass throwing a wrench into the whole thing. Coming across these areas conjures up all sorts of bad memories.  This area's full of drow...  ...And not much else, fittingly it's called the 'Drow Mistress' Cave.'  In the next area we're greeted by a Red Wizard, I really thought we'd be running into them a lot sooner and a lot more often but oh well...  This area is based on the Windspear dungeon which means that there are a lot of false doors.  My cursor tells me I should be able to interact with this tub but I never found a use for it.  We fight another ultra hard kobold 'Netheril Admiral' in this area.  Nice cloak, we'll be needing this switch as well!  As soon as we pick up the switch this area's flooded with skeletons.  There's also a sarcophagus in this side area.  Melicamp is going to love this!  Told you!  The conclusion to his quest will still have to wait, though.  That's it for the 'Admiral's quarter.'  Backtracking to the Lieutenant's quarter we come across a side area.   We find the third and final pile of coal here.  A second side area serves as a shortcut between the Troglodyte Hall and Admiral's quarter, the middle tomb is the entrance.  I originally thought this was just another false door but it's the entrance to the next area.  That's quite a drill.  Insert your own joke here.  Looks like we'll have to free him first, we have to go back to the Drow Mistress' Cave to get the key.  Speak for yourself, Sandrah.  What was even the point of this little cameo? She's not even supposed to be alive!  Let's just get the key and go back to the mechanic.  As it happens we've already collected all the items we need.  Coal goes in the back, the handle goes on the side.     After the cutscene we move to the next area.  We're greeted by some wizards and Black Hand cultists.  This'd make for a fine bar.  Thanks for letting me know, how do we proceed?  As it turns out we just have to step on this grate, which takes us to...  A final boss area if ever there was one.  Cyric is waiting for us here with the ultimate weapon, a Sandrah clone.  Cyric does nothing while we wail on her.  After a while she runs out of juice and departs, leaving us to fight Cyric who still stands around doing nothing.  That was easy.  Szass Tam: Worst villain ever.   Cyric storms off and Szass Tam appears.  He's aided by a Babau who promptly fucks off seconds into the fight, not even his minions want to stick around.  Szass Tam is excessively hard. I've mentioned before that I'm not that good at Baldur's Gate to begin with and any motivation to play the game with a modicum of effort has left me a long, long time ago. I'd wager that anyone would have trouble taking this guy down, he's nigh invincible and hits like a truck. He also regenerates faster than I could deal damage to him. I basically had to cheat my guys to full health every other second just to keep this thing going. Since I'm the only one who's made it this far I feel like I'm entitled to a little shortcut.   After a set amount of time Edwin and Candrella arrive to help out and Szass Tam becomes a bit easier. Candrella actually puts in effort, Edwin just stands there like a statue.  Even using ctrl-y did nothing to end this fight, it just seemed to end automatically after a couple of minutes. Just an excruciating experience all around.   We're not done quite yet, Cyric is still out there.  We use the teleporter...  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None of this is very good but I think the most exhausting detail is that every single villain is horny for Sandrah. That's just lazy.
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:None of this is very good but I think the most exhausting detail is that every single villain is horny for Sandrah. That's just lazy. Well, so are all the good guys. And all the neutral NPCs.
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Reminder that a female PC literally does not have an option to say no to Sandrah's advances in BG1.
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Black Robe posted:Well, so are all the good guys. Not literally all of them. Keldorn and Anomen weren't into her, off the top of my head, and one of those literally has "you should kill Viconia, all drow are evil; wait hang on she's hot okay she can join us" as a line in the vanilla game. Of the good/neutral characters, only the ones Sandrah wanted to bang were into her. But literally every villain gets brung low by their loins, or pause their gloating to fawn over her.
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:Not literally all of them. Keldorn and Anomen weren't into her, off the top of my head, and one of those literally has "you should kill Viconia, all drow are evil; wait hang on she's hot okay she can join us" as a line in the vanilla game. Of the good/neutral characters, only the ones Sandrah wanted to bang were into her. Yeah, the paladins aren't into her because she's not into them. (Because of Roxanne's ISSUES with LG)
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Vichan posted:Since I'm the only one who's made it this far I feel like I'm entitled to a little shortcut. Trust me, i have no objections whatsoever. Show the mod no mercy, it deserves none.
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Fighting Trousers posted:Yeah, the paladins aren't into her because she's not into them. (Because of Roxanne's ISSUES with LG) She made Valerie as being into Sandrah.  (I actually think that that isn't unreasonable, Valerie in BG1 probably would get run over by someone as wantonly sexual as Sandrah who seems to be a good person and into women, but I'd also call it extreme predatory behavior and Valerie would lash out hard once she realizes how unhealthy the 'relationship' is)
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Chapter CLVII - YOU, miserable descendent of that meddling harper - ALL OF THIS IS YOUR WORK!! Our journey with Sandrah is coming to an end.  A good thing, too. I don't know how much longer I can stand this dialogue.  Using Sandrah's parcel we go back to the Sword Coast.  First up is the conclusion to Melicamp's quest.  You'd think the resulting battle would be one for the ages...  ...But it's laughably easy.  Leyala and Melicamp are an item, apparently. Maybe if he didn't have to sit out the majority of our adventure we would've seen it develop.  This is the book Sandrah gives to Melicamp, we've seen it before. I almost forgot that Sandrah being Elminster's daughter was supposed to be this grand reveal.  The Gnoll Stronghold, or rather Blackstaff Tower according to Sandrah.  Drizzt waits for us next to the rope bridge.  So Cyric thought up this entire scheme based on misinformation? This is just so...stupid. The gulps should give you an indication as to what we'll face.  I almost thought Roxanne didn't bother updating the area.  As it happens this area is 'new.'  Cyric's assassins ambush us at every turn to no avail.  A weird choice for an illusion.  Kelemvor awaits us in the fortress and beckons us upstairs.  Once we arrive we come face to face with Cyric.  These have to be some of the dumbest villains ever created. I didn't think it was possible to top Szass Tam but here we are. Ao teleports in...  But the game acts as if it's Kelemvor who's just arrived.  Nothing gets past this guy.  Ao teleports away with Cyric instead of smiting Sandrah like she deserves.  What a twist, as it turns out this whole thing was Sandrah's doing all along because she cleverly deduced that Cyric and Shar would move against her!  All hail Sandrah, true ruler of the universe!   We're not done quite yet, though. Let's head for the Friendly Arm Inn.  I'm gracious enough to throw Leyala a bone once in a while.   The Solar has arrived to the delight of Pelligram.  They both turn into humans and leave us.  We head inside.  We fade to black afterwards, I guess they only know of one way to say goodbye.  Volo sure spits some wisdom here. No happy endings to be had. Time for epilogues.      I used to get teary-eyed at ToB's epilogues as a kid, now the tears are coming for a different reason.     It's over, it's finally over... ... ...Well, not quite. The tale of Sandrah and Vichan might be over but there's one more part of this nightmare for us to experience. Join me next time as we delve into Time of Troubles Revisited, the last part of this abysmal saga! Vichan fucked around with this message at 12:25 on Nov 7, 2021 |
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So not only is Sandrah actually the mastermind behind all events in this dumb dumb section, she caused the Spellplague on purpose and kept it that way to... mess with AO? AND keep interferring with the Material Plane despite AO, the Overgod who can literally do whatever he choses with the other gods ordering no to. Sandrah isn't unsufferable, she's straight up the villain of this story. I- my mind just shortcircuited. This is the level of mental gymnastics you see with fans of certain YA protagonists. I kinda half-want someone to include Sandrah as the BBEG of their campaign just so she can be punched in the face. That said, the way you're speaking about Time of Troubles implies it's not gonna be a time travel story with Sandrah at the helm but just showing all the horrible changes Sandrah made to that period? Like, still mind melting but any time spent with no Sandrah is relief for the soul.
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I can't get over "Sandrah is in charge of the power that the rest of the gods need to keep existing". this ending was a loving nosedive even for Sandrah Saga.
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lmao sandrah straight up admitting to being the villain of the story and it's cool because she's sandrah That's frankly the perfect ending to this story. Anything less awful would have been too good.
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Welp! I've seen a lot of terrible mod npcs in my days but none of them have come even close to being this awful. Congrats, Roxanne! I ...look forward? To seeing this finally wrap up and set us all free
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I have nothing to add beyond this: Roxanne, Sandrah is not real and she is not going to gently caress you or take you away to her magical world.
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I'm no modologist or psychotherapist, but I'm pretty sure Roxanne doesn't want to gently caress Sandrah, she wants to be Sandrah and bang all the hot elfs and have everyone tell her she's pretty and smart and perfect, except the paladins who just kinda sputter ineffectually at her slam dunk takedowns.
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So in the end, no meaningful conflict, no character development, no tension whatsoever, and even the villainous plot was just Sandrah all along, but thank goodness Roxanne took the time to tell us that Sandrah and that loser sidekick of hers became mortal to gently caress every so often. Can't wait to see what wonders The Time of Troubles Revisited holds.
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