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Michael Corleone
Mar 30, 2011

by VideoGames
I thought you could buy live chickens, but you can't. I can buy food bearing plants though. My friend and her husband have their chicks in a rubbermaid container with a heatlamp right now. I would have had to give them away to her probably when they got too big or started making noise, but would have been fun. If anyone is local to Cleveland and needs a 100bux or so worth of food I can hook you up.

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ArbitraryC
Jan 28, 2009
Pick a number, any number
Pillbug
What’s the point of trading food stamps for money anyways, everyone has to eat and it’s not like you get more in food stamps than you could realistically eat (in normal circumstances) so trading them for cash at a hefty penalty is just gonna cost ya money in the long run when you inevitably turn around and spend some of the money back on food.

Brother Tadger
Feb 15, 2012

I'm accidentally a suicide bomber!

Because people aren’t always logical actors? I mean, do you also want to ask why people commit violent crimes or why people vote republican?

Dang It Bhabhi!
May 27, 2004



ASK ME ABOUT
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ESCULA GRIND'S
#1 SIMP

MY INEVITABLE DEBT posted:

what are you talking about there are tons of restrictions on food stamps?? no hot food, no prepared food, all kinds of poo poo

Hot food and prepared food is the same thing. This is the one restriction unless you mean booze or you want to eat shaving cream.

Michael Corleone
Mar 30, 2011

by VideoGames

ArbitraryC posted:

What’s the point of trading food stamps for money anyways, everyone has to eat and it’s not like you get more in food stamps than you could realistically eat (in normal circumstances) so trading them for cash at a hefty penalty is just gonna cost ya money in the long run when you inevitably turn around and spend some of the money back on food.

So true. My dad was 'joking' about buying them for 50 cents on the dollar, I told him 95 and we could talk, but it really is money to spend on food, spend the saved money on bills. Also, you can buy live shellfish, so would a lobster fit in a 12 gallons Eclipse tank I have in storage, and they are saltwater, right? I know keeping real fish in SW is expensive, but if it dies I would just eat it, I guess, never had one.

MY INEVITABLE DEBT
Apr 21, 2011
I am lonely and spend most of my time on 4Chan talking about the superiority of BBC porn.

ArbitraryC posted:

What’s the point of trading food stamps for money anyways, everyone has to eat and it’s not like you get more in food stamps than you could realistically eat (in normal circumstances) so trading them for cash at a hefty penalty is just gonna cost ya money in the long run when you inevitably turn around and spend some of the money back on food.

it's so you can spend the money on drugs and good poo poo instead of letting some loving politician tell you what you can eat with the pittance they offered you

MY INEVITABLE DEBT
Apr 21, 2011
I am lonely and spend most of my time on 4Chan talking about the superiority of BBC porn.

Dang It Bhabhi! posted:

Hot food and prepared food is the same thing. This is the one restriction unless you mean booze or you want to eat shaving cream.

food can be prepared without being hot, friend... and im not sure why this restriction seems to be acceptable to you

Dang It Bhabhi!
May 27, 2004



ASK ME ABOUT
BEING
ESCULA GRIND'S
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MY INEVITABLE DEBT posted:

food can be prepared without being hot, friend... and im not sure why this restriction seems to be acceptable to you

Lol gently caress off.

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

MY INEVITABLE DEBT posted:

"donate it to a food bank" sounds nice but it's actually really inefficient to donate food. food banks and charities have partners they buy very cheap food from so when people bring heaps of cans and poo poo it just costs them hours trying to figure out if the food is good or usable.

so just blow that poo poo and eat some food

The op doesn’t have money they have food stamps and is looking for a way to use them in some way other than buying food for themselves. I’ve worked with a couple different food banks, they were more than happy to receive donations

Flowers for QAnon
May 20, 2019

Good Sphere posted:

Buy enough peanut butter to last the rest of your life. That stuff has a 2 year shelf life, but I’m sure it would last decades just fine.

Edit: also dried beans and honey has an indefinite shelf life.

Can confirm. My grandpa used to feed both me and the squirrel traps with 20+ year-old peanut butter.

Michael Corleone
Mar 30, 2011

by VideoGames

Flowers for QAnon posted:

Can confirm. My grandpa used to feed both me and the squirrel traps with 20+ year-old peanut butter.

LOL, we were cleaning out one of those big freezers for my grandma and she had 20+ year old vegetables and other stuff in there. She was fighting with us when we threw it away, 'people could still use it'!

Bright Bart
Apr 27, 2020

False. There is only one electron and it has never stopped

ArbitraryC posted:

What’s the point of trading food stamps for money anyways, everyone has to eat and it’s not like you get more in food stamps than you could realistically eat (in normal circumstances) so trading them for cash at a hefty penalty is just gonna cost ya money in the long run when you inevitably turn around and spend some of the money back on food.

Addictions play a role in this economy.

SLICK GOKU BABY
Jun 12, 2001

Hey Hey Let's Go! 喧嘩する
大切な物を protect my balls


ArbitraryC posted:

What’s the point of trading food stamps for money anyways, everyone has to eat and it’s not like you get more in food stamps than you could realistically eat (in normal circumstances) so trading them for cash at a hefty penalty is just gonna cost ya money in the long run when you inevitably turn around and spend some of the money back on food.

Druggie logic is to get high as soon as they have anything of value to sell or trade for drugs, they do it.

MY INEVITABLE DEBT
Apr 21, 2011
I am lonely and spend most of my time on 4Chan talking about the superiority of BBC porn.

SLICK GOKU BABY posted:

Druggie logic is to get high as soon as they have anything of value to sell or trade for drugs, they do it.

thanks dr drew

BAGS FLY AT NOON
Apr 6, 2011

A Soft Nylon Bag

Michael Corleone posted:

LOL, we were cleaning out one of those big freezers for my grandma and she had 20+ year old vegetables and other stuff in there. She was fighting with us when we threw it away, 'people could still use it'!

Is she a hoarder? That’s hoarder mentality.

Michael Corleone
Mar 30, 2011

by VideoGames

DarkSoulsTantrum posted:

Is she a hoarder? That’s hoarder mentality.

RIP to her, but yeah. These weren't even like bags you buy from the store, they were her own cuts! I made like 300 bux on scrap cleaning out her house, and have a ton of cool Asian stuff. So much junk there, but she did hoard those '64 and back silver coins, can't be mad at that!

reignonyourparade
Nov 15, 2012

ArbitraryC posted:

What’s the point of trading food stamps for money anyways, everyone has to eat and it’s not like you get more in food stamps than you could realistically eat (in normal circumstances) so trading them for cash at a hefty penalty is just gonna cost ya money in the long run when you inevitably turn around and spend some of the money back on food.

"I need money for some other expense right now." Yes in the long run it's worse off but that you don't really care about that in the immediate term if you need to get your car fixed now, or need a little bit of extra money for rent to not get evicted (or to get your next fix because you're an addict.)

dee eight
Dec 18, 2002

The Spirit
of Maynard

:catdrugs:
buy $1000 eggs then invite smathmouse over and feed him some eggs

make him eat the eggs

Methanar
Sep 26, 2013

by the sex ghost

reignonyourparade posted:

"I need money for some other expense right now." Yes in the long run it's worse off but that you don't really care about that in the immediate term if you need to get your car fixed now, or need a little bit of extra money for rent to not get evicted (or to get your next fix because you're an addict.)

A bank will happily give you a small personal loan for like 10% interest. Trading in your beanBux at a 50% exchange rate is bad with money.

rideANDxORdie
Jun 11, 2010
Not a lot you can spend it on that isn't just a fuckload of raw food but I will say papa murphy's take-n-bake is eligible for SNAP since it's uncooked. So you got a bunch of pizza right there

Also, this was probably mentioned but while you can enjoy the radical taste of a papa murphy's pizza pie, you better not get a loving cooked rotisserie chicken from the grocery store. What are you, some kind of wastrel? You should have the good graces to only use your noblesse oblige fun bucks on raw ingredients for peasant food. Or papa murphy's.

Maybe some of this has changed but I was helping people apply for SNAP one of my first jobs, and this was the situation circa 2017 or so

Remember when trump wanted to send people boxes of food instead, just to make sure they weren't wasting their SNAP

chaosbreather
Dec 9, 2001

Wry and wise,
but also very sexual.

Dang It Bhabhi! posted:

This isn’t true. You can buy any grocery item at any store that accepts EBT, not just certain foods or brands. How do you propose this funneling of money to certain corporations works with respect to SNAP?

Can’t remember where I read it but Found a source here that seems to have plenty of evidence and makes sense to me:

quote:

Coca Cola, Kroger, Walmart, Kelloggs and other corporations have all lobbied the United States Department of Agriculture and congress to prevent any measures being put in place that would restrict SNAP use to healthy food choices. It isn’t difficult to understand why this is the case. They want to make as much money as possible and won’t abide anything that impedes their ability to keep turning huge profits. In just one year, nine Walmart Supercenters in Massachusetts received more than $33 million in SNAP revenues, which is more than four times the amount of SNAP benefits received at all farmers’ markets nationwide.

gary oldmans diary
Sep 26, 2005
up from the gov came the ebt. welfare that is. food gold. texas tea

Mr. Creakle
Apr 27, 2007

Protecting your virginity



Drive to the most conservative area you can find and buy lobster and top-shelf steak with it.

Then you can harvest the resulting tears for a refreshing drink!

LionArcher
Mar 29, 2010


Dang It Bhabhi! posted:

Hot food and prepared food is the same thing. This is the one restriction unless you mean booze or you want to eat shaving cream.

Been on EBT before. Here's some weird ones. So no hot prepared food, but pre made sushi does pass the test, (at least in oregon) so you can get spicy tuna pre made for $9.00 at Safeway MOC all the day long. Candy and soda of course are allowed, as are seltzers. In the summer I have gotten seltzers to drink, and then I do turn in the cans, not sure if that's illegal but come on. Also weirdly not covered are some teas. anything by Yogi tea for instance, but coffee (ground, beans) and caffeinated tea are covered. Why not Yogi? because it's a medical tea lol.

LionArcher fucked around with this message at 00:34 on Jan 24, 2021

Michael Corleone
Mar 30, 2011

by VideoGames
I mean I am RICH in food now, and the fun bucks aren't going to stop coming anytime soon! Guess being VERY much close to middle class but not quite has paid off for once! Pork Chops are cooking right now, and I did buy a bunch of meat but the most expensive thing was black angus roast at $3.99#, I can't spend it all on those numbers, better head to Whole Foods! In all seriousness I am really happy about this and won't waste it. But will probably buy some cool stuff to try! If anyone is local and needs food, PM me!

je1 healthcare
Sep 29, 2015
Find someone with a MAGA hat or camo facemask loudly insist that they stay 6 feet away while you ring up ribs and steak in front of them

"Thank GOD I don't have to work anymore, I get to eat good every night thanks to president Biden and the taxpayers!"

Thank them individually if you have to but make sure you do the stupid elbow bumps instead of shaking hands. Spend any actual cash you have on booze.

ArbitraryC
Jan 28, 2009
Pick a number, any number
Pillbug

reignonyourparade posted:

"I need money for some other expense right now." Yes in the long run it's worse off but that you don't really care about that in the immediate term if you need to get your car fixed now, or need a little bit of extra money for rent to not get evicted (or to get your next fix because you're an addict.)

I mean eating is a pretty immediate need, a month of shelter ain’t gonna do much good if you’re literally in the process of starving to death, as that takes substantially less time than a month. Faced with the decision of food and no shelter or shelter and no food I think most people would eat, so at the end of the day they’re still gonna have to buy food (or die). But also, buying the food (that you need anyways) from SNAP benefits lets you freely use the money that would have gone to food on other things, that’s the way budgets works, presuming the benefits aren’t grossly overestimating how much people can eat just spending them on your normal food expenses frees up the same amount of money for rent or drugs or whatever.

It sort of reminds me of the whole “planned parenthood doesn’t spend tax dollars on abortion”, yeah they do, that’s how budgets function. Giving money for their non abortion activities just means freeing up money they would otherwise already be spending for their abortion activities. It’s literally impossible to give them money without supporting abortions. I support their efforts, donate regularly, and would be fine if there were government funded abortions in a general sense so my point isn’t that it’s bad, it’s a common misunderstanding of how a budget functions.

If a person was gonna spend 100 bucks on food regardless giving them 100 bucks of snap is no different than straight cash.

Methanar
Sep 26, 2013

by the sex ghost

ArbitraryC posted:

that’s how budgets function

A subset of those who are chronically without money do not know how to use money properly.

Michael Corleone
Mar 30, 2011

by VideoGames

je1 healthcare posted:


"Thank GOD I don't have to work anymore, I get to eat good every night thanks to president Biden and the taxpayers!"


A lobster in every pot, thank you President Joe, dude. (He ain't a stickler for a sir like Dump)

reignonyourparade
Nov 15, 2012

ArbitraryC posted:

I mean eating is a pretty immediate need, a month of shelter ain’t gonna do much good if you’re literally in the process of starving to death, as that takes substantially less time than a month. Faced with the decision of food and no shelter or shelter and no food I think most people would eat, so at the end of the day they’re still gonna have to buy food (or die). But also, buying the food (that you need anyways) from SNAP benefits lets you freely use the money that would have gone to food on other things, that’s the way budgets works, presuming the benefits aren’t grossly overestimating how much people can eat just spending them on your normal food expenses frees up the same amount of money for rent or drugs or whatever.

Eating is a pretty immediate need but if they end up in a situation where it's gotta be done people can spend a portion of their SNAP on rice and beans and then use these methods of turning it into into cash at a loss.

reignonyourparade fucked around with this message at 02:29 on Jan 24, 2021

Methanar
Sep 26, 2013

by the sex ghost

reignonyourparade posted:

Eating is a pretty immediate need but if they end up in a situation where it's gotta be done people can spend a portion of their SNAP on rice and beans and then use these methods of turning it into into cash at a loss.

no they don't. go to a bank and get a real loan. Its awful with money to do otherwise.

BAGS FLY AT NOON
Apr 6, 2011

A Soft Nylon Bag
It’s hosed up that you can buy filet mignon at $18 a pound on SNAP but a rotisserie chicken is verboten.

ArbitraryC
Jan 28, 2009
Pick a number, any number
Pillbug

DarkSoulsTantrum posted:

It’s hosed up that you can buy filet mignon at $18 a pound on SNAP but a rotisserie chicken is verboten.

It’s funny that health conscious budget shoppers will naturally avoid things not covered by SNAP already.

Like just give me your bennies I’ll spend them on the stuff I normally get. The restrictions are really only as dumb as not giving pure cash in the first place, but beyond that it’s obviously just a misguided attempt to force people to shop as if they weren’t fat Americans.

AHH F/UGH
May 25, 2002

200 flats of Oreos, so that's like, 6.2 you'll have to eat every day

Good luck and get to eating

reignonyourparade
Nov 15, 2012

Methanar posted:

no they don't. go to a bank and get a real loan. Its awful with money to do otherwise.

Maybe it is but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen, I've personally seen a convenience store ring up 50 dollars worth of stuff on EBT and then hand the guy in front of me 40 bucks cash.

ClamdestineBoyster
Aug 15, 2015
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
You gotta get the four basic food groups:

Dips, goops, slops, and slurries.

:hai:

Lister
Apr 23, 2004

ClamdestineBoyster posted:

You gotta get the four basic food groups:

Dips, goops, slops, and slurries.

:hai:

That's all food is once you swallow it anyway

SLICK GOKU BABY
Jun 12, 2001

Hey Hey Let's Go! 喧嘩する
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You're welcome, I hope it helps.

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EA Sports
Feb 10, 2007

by Azathoth

chaosbreather posted:

Food stamps seem insanely insulting. There's been heaps of studies that show the vast majority of poor people use money really well to improve their situation and know precisely the value of a dollar because that's what they're living by. Apparently the list stuff you can buy with them is a scam to funnel money to certain corporations who bribe officials.

But the answer to your question is to feed your crew. The best place to store extra food is in your friends' stomachs.

i think your thinking of WIC.

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