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kntfkr
Feb 11, 2019

GOOSE FUCKER


Bill of materials you yokels

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Samuel L. Hacksaw
Mar 25, 2007

Never Stop Posting.



Better than the config management team constantly updating their audit checklist and never sharing it with the BoM team.

Love getting a dozen turnbacks b/c one dude couldn't be assed to send a process update email.

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com


kntfkr posted:

Bill of materials you yokels

I was wondering what the Bureau Of Meteorology had to do with that.

zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos


I love that because there is zero creativity in corporate material management, enriching a BOM ID/displaying the entire hierarchical makeup of a BOM with the list of components that make it is called 'exploding the BOM.'

kntfkr
Feb 11, 2019

GOOSE FUCKER


busty ol' milfs

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007






Lazyfire
Feb 4, 2006

God saves. Satan Invests


kntfkr posted:

I have this woman whose job is making BOMs and she only makes BOMs for half the items and uses descriptors for the rest. Uses small, medium and mini interchangeably. Then acts shocked that the product size doesn't match the artwork. Like.....c'mon. Just make the loving BOMs.

I'm sorry, what? Is she referencing sub-assembly drawings and not properly referencing them? A BOM isn't half guesswork/open to interpretation. Besides As Required designations or Alternate part numbers it's supposed to be an exact thing telling you the dash number, make from and quantity.

This poo poo is in my brain today because our Space Systems team sent us a drawing this morning and I ended up spending five hours typing out an email explaining why it was unmanufacturable.

AHH F/UGH
May 25, 2002



Boss makes a dollar, I make a dime, that's why I drop BOMs on company time

kntfkr
Feb 11, 2019

GOOSE FUCKER


Lazyfire posted:

I'm sorry, what? Is she referencing sub-assembly drawings and not properly referencing them? A BOM isn't half guesswork/open to interpretation. Besides As Required designations or Alternate part numbers it's supposed to be an exact thing telling you the dash number, make from and quantity.

This poo poo is in my brain today because our Space Systems team sent us a drawing this morning and I ended up spending five hours typing out an email explaining why it was unmanufacturable.

ummmm i work in arts and crafts so way more simple than that. We are selling clothespins to walmart. She specced "small clothespins" and sent a variety of samples to my factory in China. When she should have made a BoM that said they were 6cm x 0.7cm x 1.5 cm or whatever the art/samples were cuz the factory just ordered the smallest clothespin in the array of samples and assigned it to the item number. I mentioned this would be a problem at the time of sourcing and never got a response. Now it's a month later and she's flabbergasted because the factory was sent art two weeks ago, oh me oh my, two weeks!

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

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kntfkr posted:

Bill of materials you yokels

Thank you. I thought it meant Bag of Missiles

Lazyfire
Feb 4, 2006

God saves. Satan Invests


kntfkr posted:

ummmm i work in arts and crafts so way more simple than that. We are selling clothespins to walmart. She specced "small clothespins" and sent a variety of samples to my factory in China. When she should have made a BoM that said they were 6cm x 0.7cm x 1.5 cm or whatever the art/samples were cuz the factory just ordered the smallest clothespin in the array of samples and assigned it to the item number. I mentioned this would be a problem at the time of sourcing and never got a response. Now it's a month later and she's flabbergasted because the factory was sent art two weeks ago, oh me oh my, two weeks!

I don't think it should be much different. You should have half pieces with sizes, a spring per size and an assembly with two halves plus the right spring per size. If she just assumed sending something to a Chinese factory and asking for replication would produce a viable product then she hosed up. I've done that before and it ended poorly.

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Feb 16, 2011
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kntfkr posted:

busty ol' milfs

where

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Sep 1, 2006

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ClothHat
Mar 2, 2005

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Outrail posted:

BOM? BOM!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NG1qKzIsisU#t=18s

nexus6
Sep 2, 2011

If only you could see what I've seen with your eyes

Imagined posted:

As implemented by my work it's just a VPN.

Lol, we already have 2 VPNs that we use

Imagined
Feb 2, 2007


nexus6 posted:

Lol, we already have 2 VPNs that we use

Again, that's how my work does it too. Running Zscaler and Netmotion Mobility simultaneously. I'm sure someone will correct me that they're not technically VPNs, but whatever, proxies of some kind.

Super Waffle
Sep 25, 2007

I'm a hermaphrodite and my parents (40K nerds) named me Slaanesh, THANKS MOM

Lazyfire posted:

I'm sorry, what? Is she referencing sub-assembly drawings and not properly referencing them? A BOM isn't half guesswork/open to interpretation. Besides As Required designations or Alternate part numbers it's supposed to be an exact thing telling you the dash number, make from and quantity.

This poo poo is in my brain today because our Space Systems team sent us a drawing this morning and I ended up spending five hours typing out an email explaining why it was unmanufacturable.

Hmm, space systems team? Terrible drawings? Impossible designs?

Do you work for Oceaneering?

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com


Super Waffle posted:

Hmm, space systems team? Terrible drawings? Impossible designs?

Do you work for Oceaneering?

Deffo working the Space Force F35 'starfighter' variant.

d0s
Jun 28, 2004



If you work at a company located in a different country from your vendor and you use a "freight forwarder" middleman to ship a single small item you purchased from that vendor, please stop. just give us your Fedex/DHL/UPS account number, or pay our reasonable shipping charge. I promise you it will be cheaper, and it will get there on time. the freight forwarder is not making your customs documents, when you hire them they just contact us and ask us to draw them up, only now we have to make them by hand instead of using the built in functionality of DHL/UPS/Fedex software to generate them. they will then print those documents (or just copy the data from them), slap them on the box, and use UPS/Fedex/DHL anyway when it's a small package. Some of them just straight up send us a shipping label from one of those companies direct to you. they will not "grease the wheels" at customs or whatever the hell you think they do, there's no fast lane for freight forwarders. you're paying somebody exorbitant fees to receive a package and print some PDFs, and then overcharge you on shipping. Unless you are in a lawless or war-torn place or receiving entire skids you don't need a middleman for international parcel shipping in 2021

signed, person tired of filling out badly formatted PDF forms

d0s fucked around with this message at 04:59 on May 14, 2021

kntfkr
Feb 11, 2019

GOOSE FUCKER


Lazyfire posted:

I don't think it should be much different. You should have half pieces with sizes, a spring per size and an assembly with two halves plus the right spring per size. If she just assumed sending something to a Chinese factory and asking for replication would produce a viable product then she hosed up. I've done that before and it ended poorly.

Yeah, it doesn't even get that complicated since these items are all available on the open market and the Chinese I deal with are all trading company people since I lack boots on the ground. The clothespins already exist. Even just having the component dimensions in the description on the line list would have avoided this but I'm dealing with a corporate culture where it's ok to send an email with the subject: "Items". They come from publishing and are new to sourcing/manufacturing products. Everyone here thinks China is a magical place where you send them a jpeg and get back containers full of what was in the photo and they are southerners and I am in NJ so every time I point out stuff like this I'm considered rude.

On the plus-side I started working a second full-time job for a flower grower and everything's domestic and the company seems really nice and competent.

kntfkr
Feb 11, 2019

GOOSE FUCKER



Shop-rite, wegmans, Burlington coat factory and my local climbing gym are all great sources of BOMs.

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d0s
Jun 28, 2004



kntfkr posted:

Everyone here thinks China is a magical place where you send them a jpeg and get back containers full of what was in the photo

I love it when people are just shocked when the lowest bidder chinese factory they chose sends an order where half the items are out of tolerance and smell like cigarettes, or a component is upside down on a few thousand PCBs. like every chinese factory is the one cranking out iphones

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