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Imagined posted:My work is "reopening" the office to public visitors and phasing out WFH in June. Are we going to require employees get vaccinations and/or wear masks? Remodeling the office to ensure social distancing? Making any changes to help increase the flow of fresh air and limit recirculation of dirty air? Increasing the frequency and thoroughness of cleaning? My company claims they have re-worked our office spaces to be covid aware or whatever (desks 6 feet apart, limited capacity in meeting rooms, hand sanitizer everywhere, etc.) and they are mandating masks and social distancing whenever we go back, but private companies are not legally allowed to mandate vaccines. I was told that higher-ups asked about this and they can mandate all kinds of safety poo poo but they can't mandate vaccines. I understand that it's out of their control but if they start pushing hard on us all to back without everyone being vaccinated I'm going to leave. I'd even take a job that pays the same if they let me stay home. Elephant Ambush fucked around with this message at 18:38 on May 7, 2021 |
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May 7, 2021 18:35
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Elephant Ambush posted:My company claims they have re-worked our office spaces to be covid aware of whatever (desks 6 feet apart, limited capacity in meeting rooms, hand sanitizer everywhere, etc.) and they are mandating masks and social distancing whenever we go back, but private companies are not legally allowed to mandate vaccines. I was told that higher-ups asked about this and they can mandate all kinds of safety poo poo but they can't mandate vaccines. I understand that it's out of their control but if they start pushing hard on us all to back without everyone being vaccinated I'm going to leave. I'd even take a job that pays the same if they let me stay home. I'm thankful ours at least put an incentive program in place, even if the incentive is minimal for hourly (1 hour of pay per verified shot with the card) and nonexistent for salary (last I checked it was a charity donation or something lmao). Maybe enough to get people to do it.
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May 7, 2021 18:38
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I work as an auto adjuster, and one of the metrics they track how many calls we've missed. This is fine, as it honestly makes sense you'd want your employees answering their phone. Except it counts against you when you're already on a call (it doesn't ring) and if you're on lunch (you're not allowed to answer on lunch). It just seems like a reason to put down employees. I'd really like to move to IT.
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May 7, 2021 18:50
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Armitag3 posted:I hate VBA with a passion, Would you say you take a Dim view of VBA?  Could be worse, could be Perl.
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May 7, 2021 18:50
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Sardonik posted:Would you say you take a Dim view of VBA? You son of a bitch.
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May 7, 2021 18:51
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Agoat posted:I work as an auto adjuster, and one of the metrics they track how many calls we've missed. This is fine, as it honestly makes sense you'd want your employees answering their phone. Do you all log in to a queue to take calls or anything? Any company tracking call statistics like that should absolutely be using some sort of Call center software that has log off codes for things like lunch/break and is smart enough to know that if you’re on the phone you’re not missing a call. That’s really loving stupid and yes, is just a way to make employees look like they’re underperforming
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May 7, 2021 18:56
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Sardonik posted:Would you say you take a Dim view of VBA? this is violence I made an IRC client in VB6 back in '99. The biggest technical hurdle I had was getting CTCP transfers to work, as IP addresses were expressed as unsigned long integers, and VB6 only had SIGNED long integers. I had to build a function that calculated two subsets of digits and then slammed them together into a string. Fun times!
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May 7, 2021 18:58
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If the rule is evenly applied to everyone (big if) then it should work out the same anyway. And if they want you to keep calls as quick as possible, that's a sort of (terrible) way to encourage that. But yeah, that sucks.
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May 7, 2021 19:00
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Tetramin posted:Do you all log in to a queue to take calls or anything? Any company tracking call statistics like that should absolutely be using some sort of Call center software that has log off codes for things like lunch/break and is smart enough to know that if you’re on the phone you’re not missing a call. We have phone modes but they don't affect our stats. It's more people dialing me directly (which leads to dumber customers calling 5-6 times instead of leaving of a voicemail) than being in a queue. It's honestly the main reason why I'm looking to make a career shift, haha.
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May 7, 2021 19:08
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SubnormalityStairs posted:this is violence I forgot all about that, it was a real drag trying to interface to DLL's and stuff. Modern VB is ok, I'm forced to use it right now but I'm not sure why it's even around since it's so much like c# at this point.
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May 7, 2021 19:25
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Doesn’t it compile (or transpile or whatever) into the same byte code as C# and use the same .NET libraries? I think it’s just a different syntax at this point. E: Does VB still do that stupid thing where arrays start at 1? Might be useful if you have a bunch of extra VB classic code that you don’t want to make into one big off by one error. goatsestretchgoals fucked around with this message at 19:40 on May 7, 2021 |
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May 7, 2021 19:38
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titty_baby_ posted:At the interview for the job I'm starting, one of the questions was like "how have you handled being in a less then ideal workplace?". I didnt intend to, but I pretty much spilled the beans about all the dysfunctional poo poo from my last job and told them how I tried to keep my head above water while looking for other employment and eventually just put in my two weeks without anything lined up. I expected a negative reaction but they told me "yeah man sometimes all you can do is watch out for yourself, and it sounds like you made the right decision". I felt elated, as everyone else had told me not to quit without a job lined up and that a gap on your resume is bad etc etc Is it just me or is that a very suspicious interview question? I’d be like “uh, why, is that going to be relevant to my job here?”
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May 7, 2021 19:59
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Prism Mirror Lens posted:Is it just me or is that a very suspicious interview question? I’d be like “uh, why, is that going to be relevant to my job here?” It could be lol. I'm not too worried because the job is seasonal, and ill be working alone in the field the majority of the time.
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May 7, 2021 20:06
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Prism Mirror Lens posted:Is it just me or is that a very suspicious interview question? I’d be like “uh, why, is that going to be relevant to my job here?”
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May 7, 2021 20:06
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goatsestretchgoals posted:E: Does VB still do that stupid thing where arrays start at 1? Fortran does this. Ah, memories of number crunching.
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May 7, 2021 20:12
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One of my go-to interview questions was to have the candidate describe the craziest/most stressful day at their previous job. Gave me a good idea of what they were able to handle.
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May 7, 2021 20:19
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Super Waffle posted:One of my go-to interview questions was to have the candidate describe the craziest/most stressful day at their previous job. Gave me a good idea of what they were able to handle. That's a good one. Yoink. I wish past employers had asked: How much sketchy bullshit are you willing to be a party to before notifying the authorities?
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May 7, 2021 21:28
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Outrail posted:That's a good one. Yoink. Is the only acceptable answer for the interviewee to get their phone out then and there before asking for clarification as to the category of sketchy bullshit so they contact the right authorities?
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May 7, 2021 21:34
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goatsestretchgoals posted:Doesn’t it compile (or transpile or whatever) into the same byte code as C# and use the same .NET libraries? I think it’s just a different syntax at this point. Well, VB and other basic implementations are different from C in that going Dim I(5) actually creates an array 6 elements long whereas C would make it 5 elements long and the array starts from 0. VB would have the array be 0-5, C 0 to 4. You can set OPTION BASE 1 so that arrays start at 1. I never use it but I think you can dimension arrays like Dim I(5 to 30), not sure though, again, never used it.
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May 7, 2021 21:44
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Cthulu Carl posted:Is the only acceptable answer for the interviewee to get their phone out then and there before asking for clarification as to the category of sketchy bullshit so they contact the right authorities? Of course not. Get the evidence first.
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May 7, 2021 21:54
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Outrail posted:Of course not. I assumed they meant getting out their phone to record too.
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May 7, 2021 22:05
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SkyeAuroline posted:I assumed they meant getting out their phone to record too. At this point, I'm willing to accept you should be recording everything to a secure server.
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May 7, 2021 22:09
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Zarin posted:I don't know enough about coding to know why I should hate VBA I guess, I'm a computer babby Honestly the VBA environment as a whole isn't that bad for quickly putting something together for tasks like that. The language itself is a mess once you've learned better ones. I started off in VBA too, if you want to move on to "real" programming I highly recommend the free online Harvard CS50 course.
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May 7, 2021 22:19
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Super Waffle posted:One of my go-to interview questions was to have the candidate describe the craziest/most stressful day at their previous job. Gave me a good idea of what they were able to handle. And then you hire the one that spins the most obscene tale and ends it with "The Aristocrats!"
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May 7, 2021 22:20
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How close is VBA to Microsoft Access? Because in my professional life it's always been some Access database made in 1997 by some old grognard who retired shortly thereafter but whose ancient database is somehow still crucial to day to day operations that's been the bane of my existence. I remember many times watching techs hunched over my desk cursing as they try to make concurrent installation of the most recent Access AND Access 95 coexist on the same machine without virtualization for reasons.
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May 7, 2021 22:30
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VBA is built into Access and all of the other Office products.
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May 7, 2021 22:43
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I love VBA, mostly because I used it to automate large parts of my job so that I could spend more time at home with my kids. Edit: and when I’ve got drunk enough at work things to talk about it, I’ve then taught it to people who have the balls to ask me
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May 7, 2021 22:53
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Pekinduck posted:Honestly the VBA environment as a whole isn't that bad for quickly putting something together for tasks like that. The language itself is a mess once you've learned better ones. I took some C++ in college in a failed attempt at Electrical Engineering; I'm sure that actually learning a real language could come in kinda handy as an accountant, though. I'll keep it in mind, thanks for the tip!
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May 7, 2021 23:05
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Currently working for a distribution company with 5 sales reps, and with an eye to hire more. We service an entire state (one of the largest) but have one overwhelmed Operations Manager, and a redundant Director of Operations, who seems unconcerned with any of this. We've had driver/warehouse employees hire on with our competitors, since they provide a competitive wage, and health care- neither of which we provide until after a one yer review. The newest hire driver, who is also expected to do all of the order-pulling at the warehouse and drive long-haul 4 days per week, and make deliveries, is so green that it's just going to create an entire new job to fix the mistakes. It's a very detail-oriented job, and they refuse to raise the pay for new hires in the driver/warehouse role, to attract better employees and retain them. I end up delivering product to my accounts half of the time, and this leaves me even less time to catch up on the overwhelming demand for our products, let alone new accounts. It's a vicious cycle, and I hate it. We also currently have no functioning printer for invoices, but there's no plan to get a new one, since "we're about to go paperless." They've been saying that for 5 months. LOL.
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May 7, 2021 23:18
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Zarin posted:I took some C++ in college in a failed attempt at Electrical Engineering; I'm sure that actually learning a real language could come in kinda handy as an accountant, though. I'll keep it in mind, thanks for the tip!
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May 7, 2021 23:34
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~*Doot doot doot gonna learn some C# to make some handy tools for my day to day*~ A strange man with sacks of cash money: you're an accountant... Who codes? Could we maybe interest you in fixing a COBOL problem for us? *Waves sacks of cash*
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May 7, 2021 23:38
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zedprime posted:~*Doot doot doot gonna learn some C# to make some handy tools for my day to day*~ "PLEASE COME WORK ON OUR MAINFRAME, PEOPLE CAN'T GET THEIR UNEMPLOYMENT."
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May 7, 2021 23:41
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zedprime posted:Let's be real if you're gonna code anything with an accounting background you're gonna get pigeon holed into a business-oriented language crime against computer science. Oh yeah, this scans. I was handed the task of reviewing thousands of rows in 100s of column long excel data extracts, learned enough vba from the online tutorials and made a vba script to do the evaluation and was immediately after tasked with building in automations to the VP's excel reports. Eventually I was able to spin this experience into getting a job in the IT integrations department, and now get to deal with business logic expressed in ginorumous plsql packages, normal sql, boomi, and perl. Of them, I think I hate plsql the most really, the syntax is just all over the place, though perl is a close second.
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Batterypowered7 posted:"PLEASE COME WORK ON OUR MAINFRAME, PEOPLE CAN'T GET THEIR UNEMPLOYMENT." 
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May 8, 2021 00:25
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Those old rear end mainframes must cost so much to maintain.
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May 8, 2021 00:31
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My boss wants our operations to never miss any "bad" events (this is a field where predictions are involved and very low probability events can happen). So he wants us to always communicate this, but doesn't give any direction how. Then when we tell him he's creating an atmosphere of fear, tells us people are being immature.
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May 8, 2021 00:38
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Zarin posted:I don't know enough about coding to know why I should hate VBA I guess, I'm a computer babby It's this SkyeAuroline posted:This is where the resentment for VBA for Excel specifically comes from in my experience - it's "easy to learn" so it's cheap to outsource to someone who will never maintain it, and those flaws WILL come back to haunt you. And this. Pekinduck posted:Honestly the VBA environment as a whole isn't that bad for quickly putting something together for tasks like that. The language itself is a mess once you've learned better ones. It's not only that it's a messy language, it's that it (at least once upon a time, I haven't looked for quite a while) also encourages bad decisions that you have to spend time training people out of, rather than being able to train someone as a tabula rasa. Sardonik posted:Would you say you take a Dim view of VBA? gently caress you.
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Zarin posted:I took some C++ in college in a failed attempt at Electrical Engineering; I'm sure that actually learning a real language could come in kinda handy as an accountant, though. I'll keep it in mind, thanks for the tip! No problem, you'll actually find a lot of it easier and more intuitive than excel/VBA. Imagined posted:How close is VBA to Microsoft Access? Because in my professional life it's always been some Access database made in 1997 by some old grognard who retired shortly thereafter but whose ancient database is somehow still crucial to day to day operations that's been the bane of my existence. Access and all the MS Office products use VBA for user programs. Access is an awful, awful database. You're better off cobbling something together with excel and VBA. Batterypowered7 posted:Those old rear end mainframes must cost so much to maintain. Oh yeah, but the old timers still have PTSD from 1997 when the grognard tried to replace it with Access.
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Pekinduck posted:Oh yeah, but the old timers still have PTSD from 1997 when the grognard tried to replace it with Access. Just do mainframe virtualization or some poo poo. THE CLOUD! * Oohs and Aahs *
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