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Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

my current work nightmare is that a major client has come back with a shitload of problems and issues with this one project because management absolutely refused to interface with them at all to set expectations or coordinate anything

i have been saying it was a problem that was going to come to a disastrous head for months now and suddenly when it did people are still managing to act surprised about it. 'well the project management team is spread too thin right now' you don't fuckin' say?! maybe hire more managers, promote more people, do loving ANYTHING so that PMs aren't dealing with forty projects in a given week? just a fuckin THOUGHT?

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Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

Charles Bukowski posted:

It really just takes a couple of people that don't feel like doing their jobs or treat people with respect that poisons an entire jobsite or organization.

What baffles me is how ruthless and cutthroat businesses appear to be, but in every department and at every level, people are just loving around and being stupid lazy and petty. Would it not make sense for someone important to cut out every weak link mercilessly and just have talented people who give a poo poo and are paid well enough to commit? I know I expect a lot from people, but surely this makes sense? Why do we so often just put up with mediocrity?

eddie lampert acct spotted

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

Barudak posted:

My job requires me to enter a bunch of numbers into a system to audit the spend. The client decided they want to audit the numbers themselves so I have to load the numbers into a second different system. The second system uses different rules and tracks things slightly differently so if you were to pull up reports from each side by side they wouldn't match and each one would have different numbers and metrics than the other.

The solution to this was to create a third report.

sweet lord are you me

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

reading this thread makes me feel really blessed that almost every time a corporate policy is dragging me down, within a quarter our company has been bought out or merged or reorganized so heavily that i don't have to deal with it or any of the fallout at all

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

man i wish we had any input on hires

it was probably a decade ago but i still remember this guy who was hired to fill an important technical role on a critical project, straight out of mcdonalds. the dude honestly thought he was being hired for a managerial position at first. wore a black trenchcoat all the time, had long gross unwashed hair, and operated his smartphone with his disgustingly greasy nose because he wore leather gloves all the fuckin' time in 60 degree weather. had no idea how any of our projects worked, had a vague understanding of most technical things but thought he was the biggest goddamn genius around, openly talked about his multi TB anime collection but was quick to assure coworkers - completely unprompted - that he didn't like hentai

he lasted months until finally our client talked to management and was like "what the gently caress is up with this weird loser? he sucks and smells bad and seems to be making the entire project take longer."



...and then there was gary. on the first day i met gary, when he introduced himself, he mentioned that he used to draw pornography of fantasy poo poo and called it the Dragonriders of Porn, super clever huh. gary would go to the hotel gym while we were on project and walk on a treadmill for hours wearing a big chainmail shirt that must have taken up most of his luggage. gary was weird and offputting to everyone he met immediately and i don't understand how he managed to get through our interview process at all.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

AHH F/UGH posted:

Even in 2011 weren't these guys a joke?

i mean, yes. very much so. hence my confusion at them getting through the hiring process, which involved some very nice and normal-seeming HR people in addition to the tech people from our team

the turning point for the first guy was when there was a huge critical production outage and i was in the office of the clientside PM, explaining what we'd ruled out already and what other possible causes there were, and our plan to tackle those. this dude busts into the room, interrupts us and says "i think it's because of XYZ!" XYZ was, of course, something we'd ruled out hours beforehand. the PM glared at the guy, and asked "do you THINK it's because of that? or do you KNOW?" and the guy snort-laughs and says "i think...."

"then shut the gently caress up and get out of my office."

guy was gone within the month.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

InternetJunky posted:

I just started a new project a few months ago and we're in the phase of the project were 80% of my working day is spent in phone-in meetings, both internal and external. I've noticed a recurring pattern on the calls now, and ever since I did I have started to get irrationally angry whenever the specific event unfolds.

Person A: "No no, that won't work because it will break this system. Isn't that right Person B?"
<silence for 10 seconds>
Person A: "Person B, you're on mute we can't hear you."
<silence for 10 seconds>
Person B: "Oh sorry everyone, I was talking on mute."
<Everyone chuckles>

It happens almost once per call. People keep laughing every time it happens. I don't find it funny. How hard is it to check if you're on mute?

these people are probably not actually at their desk or are toking up or something, I’ve definitely used the “oh sorry I was talking on mute” excuse when someone asks a question so brazenly stupid that I need to think for a few seconds about how to answer without either laughing or yelling at them

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

most jobs and projects suffer under a crushing sense of overmanagement in my experience which makes this one project that has absolutely gone to hell due to a completely absent management team sting way more

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

Tarkus posted:

At a place I worked somebody took a couple big shits in the lunch room right in the middle of the floor. The CEO set up cameras to catch the culprit. The person who was doing it adapted and then would take their poo poo in the lower floor bathrooms, move a false ceiling tile and throw the feces over top the office area false ceiling. after a year or so of odd smell in the office they finally found out what was causing the issue. Not sure if they ever caught the guy despite putting camera outside the bathrooms.

what the actual gently caress lmao

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

i've worked with dozens and dozens of clients and through it all i've had to deal with some real fuckin' characters in management, the type of people where you're pretty sure they have an actual diagnosable personality disorder that they are letting drive their work life, and it can be frustrating but i always just keep my head down and push through to deliver what we need

yesterday though was the first time i actually thought someone was totally losing their grip on reality, though

this meeting started with this guy from the client side berating my team for not being able to hit an arbitrary go live date two weeks earlier than what was on the project plan, weekly status reports, contract, and all documentation regarding the project. nobody on our side knows where this new date came from or why but it's apparently 'critical'. one member of our team, K, wasn't able to attend the meeting and this guy keeps claiming that K told him the new date was fine (K did not say anything of the sort).

the meeting ends in an unsatisfactory way (i can already tell that this dude's actual insanity is going to directly lead to me working a bunch of crunch time next week) and he sends out the meeting notes, where he claims i'd committed to having a major functional area ready for testing by this morning at 11. again, this is made up from absolute whole cloth, nobody agreed or even discussed that, and getting that ready in the time period talked about would be functionally impossible

and this dude is actively angry that we are not meeting the expectations that he has set from his terribly rotten and worm-addled boomer brain

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

Barudak posted:

I guarantee you he hosed up and promised that timing to his bosses and needs to cover

oh yeah almost certainly, and i've seen that a million times before, just never with this hardheaded approach of "guess i'll just blatantly ignore reality and make poo poo up even when it's easily verifiable"


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TotalLossBrain posted:

That's exactly what it sounds like and he's even writing emails to establish a record lol

this would be worrying in a lot of cases, but here the impressive thing is he's doing this in meetings with our actual management, and now their bosses as well since he's talking about an escalation. so like, literally every single person that matters knows that this was not actually agreed on during that call, and it's only drawn serious attention to the whole thing that does not exactly cast him in a great light. the dude is basically using a tornado warning siren to make sure everyone is paying a ton of attention to how he is moving the goalposts.

Rockman Reserve fucked around with this message at 15:57 on Mar 17, 2021

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

lmao the dude lumping cyclists in with BLM and marginalized groups has some spicy tepid takes

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

guy who barges into a discussion about workplaces and instantly starts a derail about cyclists out of nowhere: gee why does every one hate cyclists

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

HugeGrossBurrito posted:

lol did i seriously get two reports for "anti cyclist bullshit" what is going on here

lmao no way

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

so like if you hire us to migrate all of your poo poo over to an updated system, and you've had the project plan for months now with all the dates and deadlines clearly laid out, i'm going to be really pissed when you do a major internal reorganization three weeks after we were supposed to have your org structure transferred over and locked down

what the gently caress guys

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

big trivia FAIL posted:

i found almost $780,000 per month in recurring work not being billed for so i guess not charging customers is a dumb thing my work does

lmao please share this story, and the reactions people had to the information

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

i work 100 hours a week and the C-levels tell me my DSLs are pretty when they're done

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

kntfkr posted:

Is there a way to read this where you're not talking about your dick sucking lips? I know DSL was direct service line or something but if you're being abused at work it's ok to ask for help.

it's the only way to truly get ahead, which you'd know if you had any true ambition smdh

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

when my company expanded into the US one of the employees they brought over got caught looking at porn so weird that they stopped monitoring our work laptops entirely, although that was two acquisitions ago and very much not still the case today

dude didn't even get fired or anything but if you ever brought up what they found on the computer to someone who knew they'd get this thousand yard stare and kind of trail off, honestly what a loving flex

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

a friend just relayed in real-time an account of a company-wide update meeting where some sales person compared the company to "pepperoni. everyone loves pepperoni! it adds a little spice! who doesn't love pepperoni!?" in front of a visibly uncomfortable panel of mostly observant Jewish 3-letter execs

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

a major retailer is requesting that our dev team work during a company shutdown/mandated post-covid holiday period and after-hours/weekends to try to account for delays that have 100% been on their end and. . . . . . . . the managers on our side are basically laughing directly in their faces during heated calls and telling them to read the SOW contract, while pricing out and estimating delivery times on change order requests

i.....uh

how did i get here? this is not my beautiful job. this is not my beautiful management team.

i've been with this company for about a million loving years in Industry Years (which are like dog years but way loving stupider) and i can count on one hand the number of times our management has dealt with a client's absolutely absurd demands in a way other than bending over backwards for them and asking for more. and NEVER with a high-profile client like this. that's kind of an indictment of how egregious this client is being, but still, holy poo poo, it's really cool to see.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

Elephant Ambush posted:


- Agile processes promote sustainable development. The sponsors, developers, and users should be able to maintain a constant pace indefinitely.


this one is madness, crunch is bad but constantly burning down stories sprint after sprint after sprint leads to total burnout

like, yeah, you should be able to maintain a constant pace indefinitely, that's healthy - but agile by default makes that constant pace "100%"

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

Ziv Zulander posted:

For every bullshit problem you solve at work I have to deal with one elderly person who is sobbing their eyes out because they’ve lived beyond their usefulness

at least they're aware of it, i've been in three meetings in the past two hours and none of them have accomplished literally anything other than fluffing some middle-management egos

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

all of you loving nerds with your shell scripts and stuff, just set your mouse on the face of an analogue watch, like why the hell are you making this poo poo so complicated lol

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

nah, when we didn't have any projects going around a month ago my WFH desk was empty except for my work laptop, my personal monitor and keyboard for my own computer, and a watch and roll of Scotch tape. just sit down in the morning and tape it up and lose at mahjong in FFXIV for 8 hours because mahjongg is a crazy game with entirely arbitrary rules. i wanted to be in there anyway on the off chance someone tried to ping me

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

goatface posted:

I don't think I own a functional watch. Might be a broken one in a drawer somewhere, maybe.

it's usually pretty hard to break a halfway decent analogue watch, spend five bucks on a watch crab and two dollars on a new battery or pay some underpaid department store employee $40 to do it for you, it's a useful thing to have around

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

blunt posted:

Why though? It's 2021 - at any given moment there's like 10 devices around me that tell the time.

I understand there's people who collect nice analogue watches, but they're also probably not the people concerned with keeping their Teams status active...

this might surprise you but i haven't actually bought an analogue watch this decade, and perhaps even this century. but it's not like they just disappear into the aether, y'know? i did not expect this much pushback on people having a watch tucked away in the back of a jewelry box or desk drawer or something

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

TjyvTompa posted:

double clicking a file to prevent teams from setting your status to "away" while you're smoking weed and watching porn: thats nerd poo poo
rigging up a rube goldberg machine to make my mouse move periodically: now thats paper

i don’t personally consider setting one thing on top of another to be a rube goldberg machine but you do you, still kinda blown away by the “lmao who the gently caress has a watch? what you need is an arduino from a decade ago” vibe in here

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

dk2m posted:

I genuinely cannot believe that it seems people have to fake their office status? What the gently caress? I have never once given a poo poo about it, never been asked about it, and never asked any of my direct reports because I’m not their dad

turns out many companies have several hierarchical tiers of management that literally add zero value to anything and that was thrown into the spotlight when everyone started WFH. some of these useless seat fillers decided to try to be proactive by becoming weird productivity snitches, because hey, who are you gonna fire, the guy making manager level pay who doesn’t have any real work, or a guy that takes an extra long lunch twice a week that the first guy tattled about?

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

Local Weather posted:

A few jobs back there was a guy who was blatantly caught watching porn at work on company time on a company PC. Only one person actually him watching porn but word got around pretty quick and when nothing happened to him everyone in the office got pretty offended. I mean a guy got in trouble for watching The A-Team but this guy gets busted watching "Scottish porn" (that's what the lady who busted him said it was) and nothing, not even a word from management. It wasn't long after that I started looking for another job and the porn-watcher not getting in trouble was one of the reasons.

at my old job they were very explicit about telling us that there's no real active monitoring software on our laptops but to be safe and not disable the antivirus, etc. when you were using it in your "personal time"

it was super weird so obviously i asked for the story from some managers who had been around a while:

apparently one of the first hires for the US branch didn't have a personal laptop to bring over, so the very first night he was on this intercontinental job gig he loads up some porn on his work laptop and starts going at it, the next morning over in Europe the head IT officer suddenly realizes very quickly he has no desire to know what kinky poo poo this technical architect was into at 8:30 AM local time, and immediately shut down all the active monitoring on devs/architects/anyone not a manager

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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Armauk posted:

Who is saying this?

lmao what’s the weather like under your rock

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

yeah

Captain Invictus posted:

walked past the screen they have rotating safety images and videos on and saw this, loving amazing

https://i.imgur.com/lOe6mlb.mp4

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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DreadUnknown posted:

Yeah I dont think a single one of my jobs bothered calling any of my previous employers like ever.

yeah as someone who is like two or three interviews deep with several companies right now despite all of my work experience literally being under a different name entirely i don't think most prospective employers are deep-diving hard enough to care at all about job titles rather than responsibilities and experience

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

i just found out a former employer of mine unsuccessfully tried to buy loving NSO Group

just.....wow. glad i got out when i did and dragged my severance kicking and screaming through it

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

it's really really cool hearing how strong the job market is for employees right now as I limp into my third month of fruitless job-searching

turns out the strong job market may not be so strong for trans people in STEM fields, who knew :suicide:

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

when I got laid off last year my skip level's boss who was doing the deed tried to avoid giving me severance (i'd been there for 12 years and was one of the first ten US employees in the company) by claiming my work wasn't up to par

i'd just been up until 3 doing a high-priority deployment that i woke up for at 7 to babysit as users started logging on. everything had gone exceptionally smoothly and the client sent me a gushing email about how great it was with a starbucks gift card

i'd kind of assumed i was getting the axe because i'd never had a one on one meeting with this rear end in a top hat before and i wasn't having any of that nonsense after the week i'd had so i very politely asked, 'i'm sorry if i'm not meeting expectations - i have my last several performance reviews right here and they're all stellar, so i hate having this blind spot - can you elaborate on where i'm falling short and need to improve?'

suddenly he starts saying a lot of "ums" and "uhs" and turns off his camera. when i got the formal termination notice a bit later i got my full severance payout and a thanks for my excellent work.

choke on a bag of dicks, jason

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Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

I brought my Drake posted:

Minstrel/blackface shows had a lot to do with it too.

It’s this, one of the most (in)famous minstrel show characters had a horrifyingly racist song about how much Black people liked watermelons, it was a whole stereotype even back then.

You know it as the ice cream truck song.

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