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Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

"According to Wikipedia" there is a black hole that emits zionist hawking radiation where my brain should have been

I really should just shut the fuck up and stop posting forever
College Slice
Have we seen yet what Kumo's stats are right now or do we think its happening next episode?

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Sindai
Jan 24, 2007
i want to achieve immortality through not dying
Since she's evolving we're almost certain to get a stat dump afterwards.

Doodles
Apr 14, 2001

Supremezero posted:

Yeah.

Once.
*Danny Vermin mode ON*
My second cousin survived a disintegration beam once.

ONCE.
*Danny Vermin mode OFF*

:xd:

Super Jay Mann
Nov 6, 2008

Supremezero posted:

Yeah.

Once.

Dartonus posted:

"Huh, he survived the disintegration beam."

Zaps him again.

Look I've played a JRPG or two in my time and everyone knows the boss can only use their devastating super move once before a long cooldown, having a full instant res in that situation is just what he would've needed to turn the tide. :colbert:

cant cook creole bream
Aug 15, 2011
I think Fahrenheit is better for weather

Super Jay Mann posted:

Look I've played a JRPG or two in my time and everyone knows the boss can only use their devastating super move once before a long cooldown, having a full instant res in that situation is just what he would've needed to turn the tide. :colbert:

Since there are several reincarnated people, this world counts as an Asian MMORPG. Those superbosses are condensed bullshit, who suddenly spam that stuff 10 times in a row, once they past half their HP.

Maxwell Adams
Oct 21, 2000

T E E F S
Once again, the next episode preview goes up just before the actual episode airs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSe_tpEAfH4

Looks like it's time for a ~beach episode~.

Kung Food
Dec 11, 2006

PORN WIZARD
The spider bikini is killing me.

Sindai
Jan 24, 2007
i want to achieve immortality through not dying
Can't just go the beach with your spinnerets hanging out everywhere

Nitrousoxide
May 30, 2011

do not buy a oneplus phone



Maxwell Adams posted:

Once again, the next episode preview goes up just before the actual episode airs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSe_tpEAfH4

Looks like it's time for a ~beach episode~.

Hell yeah.

cant cook creole bream
Aug 15, 2011
I think Fahrenheit is better for weather
I really wish the opening hadn't spoiled that Kumoko and the demon lord aren't the same person. They were still teasing that in this episode. That would have been quite a reveal for the end of the episode.

These water dragons look generic and boring. Those should be sharks.

Bobulus
Jan 28, 2007

A pretty fun episode!

Some needed exposition, some development on both the human and spider side, and some big clues dropped that I'm excited to see what the thread has to say about! Animation on the human side was a bit sub-par again, but since it was non-action scenes, it wasn't as a bad.

Detail from the LN that was left out of the anime: Administrator D left out a 'fun' bit of exposition that the reason the Zana Horowa has never evolved before is that she built the Ede Saine, the spider species that evolves into Zana, as a self-destructing monster. It gets a rot scythe-arm attack, but does not come with rot resistance. So the first time it used its primary attack, it will kill itself and its target. Kumoko only survived because she was dumb enough to eat that gross bug that one time and get rot resistance from it, so using her rot attack only destroyed her arms, not her whole body.

Nitrousoxide
May 30, 2011

do not buy a oneplus phone



I gotta say, the end with Ariel not completely atomizing Kumoko with a wave of her hand like she did in the LN was kind of disappointing.

At long last though, I can post this

ThingOne
Jul 30, 2011



Would you like some tofu?


So if the kids were reincarnated in bodies that best matched their souls does that mean that Katia was trans? :thunkher:

Doodles
Apr 14, 2001
EDIT: I never thought of that, ThingOne. :wth:

Another great episode. As someone who's read the manga & LN, I can say things are accelerating WAY fast. They've already outpaced most of the manga and are closing in on a good chunk of the novels.

So the amazing arachnid finally meets the Demon Lord, eh? No reason for Kumoko to go all to pieces like that. :holy:

Adder Moray
Nov 18, 2010

ThingOne posted:

So if the kids were reincarnated in bodies that best matched their souls does that mean that Katia was trans? :thunkher:

There is a whole thing about this in the LN that the anime completely skipped over in episode 14

Spoilers for events that have already occurred in the anime but differently: She's able to break out of Hugo's mind control because she already has parallel minds from all the strain her identity issues have been putting on her psyche. The "old" her is able to interfere with the fire spell she's casting and blow it up in their face. When Shun brings her back to life she's decided Kanata died in the explosion and fully accepts who she is.

Adder Moray fucked around with this message at 17:13 on Apr 30, 2021

esselfortium
Jul 19, 2006

Cumulonimbus Antagonistic Posting

Adder Moray posted:

There is a whole thing about this in the LN that the anime completely skipped over in episode 15

Spoilers for events that have already occurred in the anime but differently: She's able to break out of Hugo's mind control because she already has parallel minds from all the strain her identity issues have been putting on her psyche. The "old" her is able to interfere with the fire spell she's casting and blow it up in their face. When Shun brings her back to life she's decided Kanata died in the explosion and fully accepts who she is.

loving hell, I wish that hadn't been skipped.

Adder Moray
Nov 18, 2010

esselfortium posted:

loving hell, I wish that hadn't been skipped.

The human plotline is highly underserved by this show.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012


MagicBoots
Mar 29, 2010

How about we pump the atmosphere full of methane?
You put me on Cargo handling optimization?! I am the premier defense specialist in the entirety of the UN!
Don't you dare pull my funding!
You can't cut back on funding!
You will regret this!

ThingOne posted:

So if the kids were reincarnated in bodies that best matched their souls does that mean that Katia was trans? :thunkher:

I felt it was fairly settled with the Shun:"But you used to-" Katia:"It's fine." exchange.

Kalas
Jul 27, 2007

ThingOne posted:

So if the kids were reincarnated in bodies that best matched their souls does that mean that Katia was trans? :thunkher:

Katia stuff: I think he was gay in his first life. He didn't like but eventually came to accept the female body he reincarnated into. I wouldn't call that trans.

kirtar
Sep 11, 2011

Strum in a harmonizing quartet
I want to cause a revolution

What can I do? My savage
nature is beyond wild

Bobulus posted:

Detail from the LN that was left out of the anime: Administrator D left out a 'fun' bit of exposition that the reason the Zana Horowa has never evolved before is that she built the Ede Saine, the spider species that evolves into Zana, as a self-destructing monster. It gets a rot scythe-arm attack, but does not come with rot resistance. So the first time it used its primary attack, it will kill itself and its target. Kumoko only survived because she was dumb enough to eat that gross bug that one time and get rot resistance from it, so using her rot attack only destroyed her arms, not her whole body.

This actually skips a step off the top of my head. First we had Zoa Ele which had rot attack and as a backup Ede Saine gets Annihilating Evil Eye (unless she picked this one up on her own) which is yet another rot attribute suicide attack.

kirtar fucked around with this message at 20:27 on Apr 30, 2021

Nitrousoxide
May 30, 2011

do not buy a oneplus phone



Snailbug is the true MVP of the labyrinth.

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK
It's just a shame that best non-spider girl is stuck in the budget dump human plot.

Weird that we got CGI Demon Lord for a 2 second, on model, appearance though.

cant cook creole bream
Aug 15, 2011
I think Fahrenheit is better for weather

Gyges posted:

Weird that we got CGI Demon Lord for a 2 second, on model, appearance though.

Yeah, that was weird. It's not like that fight will just continue next episode, since it seems to be settled quite well.

Paper Lion
Dec 14, 2009




Paper Lion posted:

i dont know why why you tagged this as a spoiler but im glad i accidentally hovered it because it gave me a brain blast, thanks to the scene from this week showing them all in the real world. they were teasing the one friend about being gay, and now hes the childhood friend girl of our kind gentle isekai human protagonist? the bully was a firebreathing jerkass so she became a dragon? the rear end in a top hat entitled jock guy that comes back as an rear end in a top hat entitled prince? the meek girl that just wants to be left alone and be treated as insignificant comes back as a spider? this wasn't random, someone has clearly analyzed and sorted them into their current situations. maybe thats what the weird skill is about from last week?

Paper Lion posted:

its an isekai, she probably turns into a hot girl lmao

well, this crap got confirmed, now to see if my other big theory about the demon army rising up against D/the administrators/the system comes true too

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

"According to Wikipedia" there is a black hole that emits zionist hawking radiation where my brain should have been

I really should just shut the fuck up and stop posting forever
College Slice
Katia's gender and identity issues are really quite interesting and compelling in the LN. It's really quite a shame we only get hints of it from solely Shun's perspective.

Raenir Salazar posted:

Huh I don't recognize middle right lady.

Quoting myself from way back when because it's amusing that at the time I had actually wasn't trying to be clever and legitimately didn't recognize Fei until I saw the larger version which showed her wings. I made sure not to remark on it further once I did remember though.

A surprisingly well animated episode for the human side; my guess is now less that they mostly prioritized Kumo's side of things and more likely a bit of that but mostly because that episode with the coup involved a lot of fast paced scenes that they decided to rush through and it was probably too much of an ask for their animators among everything else going on to chain together so much more traditional 2D animation back to back.

It's a dang shame I can't tell if a choice of how they present a scene is a deliberate choice or production errors because the attack in the scene at the end between Kumo and The Demon Lord at least in the manga, she releases a huge like pressure/blast wave with a wave of her arm. Instead it seems like she either diced Kumo with presumably invisible threads which also blew her body/bits away or was just like the blast wave but without any visibly noticable blast wave.

Either way the scene works its just frustrating that there's guesswork now.

Lurking Haro
Oct 27, 2009

Paper Lion posted:

well, this crap got confirmed, now to see if my other big theory about the demon army rising up against D/the administrators/the system comes true too

You forgot that one of the demon army generals is an administrator? He checked on Kumoko when she killed the dragon in the second layer.

Nitrousoxide
May 30, 2011

do not buy a oneplus phone



Honestly, no real complaints about Ariel's model. I think it looks pretty good

Electric Phantasm
Apr 7, 2011

YOSPOS

So D's identity

Could it be one of the three students that's not Wakaba that Oka said were dead or was that a misdirect? And did we see any of them in the flashbacks?

Also gotta be honest I laughed

when the cause of death was revealed to be an inadvertent effect of the hero and demon lord trying to kill God. Makes me think that's what Ariel in the future is trying to accomplish now and why Shun got the hero title since she seems to know him.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

Electric Phantasm posted:

So D's identity

Could it be one of the three students that's not Wakaba that Oka said were dead or was that a misdirect? And did we see any of them in the flashbacks?

Also gotta be honest I laughed

when the cause of death was revealed to be an inadvertent effect of the hero and demon lord trying to kill God. Makes me think that's what Ariel in the future is trying to accomplish now and why Shun got the hero title since she seems to know him.

With Oka, it's all up in the air. It could be all misdirects as she's been intentionally cagey about a lot of details despite her presumably knowing some of them.

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK

Nitrousoxide posted:

Honestly, no real complaints about Ariel's model. I think it looks pretty good




The only complaint is that it's a jarring sudden CGI insert for no reason. Like this week's Invincible where the bystanders are CGI for one short scene but look like the rest of the animation style for everything else.

GhostofJohnMuir
Aug 14, 2014

anime is not good
boo, if we were going to change fei's model again bring back the flappy ears!

GhostofJohnMuir fucked around with this message at 09:11 on May 1, 2021

I Am Fowl
Mar 8, 2008

nononononono

MagicBoots posted:

I felt it was fairly settled with the Shun:"But you used to-" Katia:"It's fine." exchange.

As a trans person myself, I got this vibe too from that moment.

Preechr
May 19, 2009

Proud member of the Pony-Brony Alliance for Obama as President

Gyges posted:

The only complaint is that it's a jarring sudden CGI insert for no reason. Like this week's Invincible where the bystanders are CGI for one short scene but look like the rest of the animation style for everything else.

Having watched Episode 14, I would say the reason was "because we wanted her to actually look like the character, and it's faster for us to do this short clip than it would be to teach the people we outsourced the Team Boring parts to how to draw." Especially since they likely already had to make the model for the inevitable fight scene from the OP.

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK

GhostofJohnMuir posted:

boo, if we were going to change fei's model again bring back the flappy ears!


My only issue with humanoid Fei is that her toe nails are terrifying. Trim that poo poo up, girl.

Nitrousoxide
May 30, 2011

do not buy a oneplus phone



Ariel sure has a lot of skills, lets take a looksee at them...



hmmmm...........

Bremen
Jul 20, 2006

Our God..... is an awesome God

Nitrousoxide posted:

Ariel sure has a lot of skills, lets take a looksee at them...



hmmmm...........



Since her race is Origin Taratect I kind of figured she was probably Kumoko's grandma.

Electric Phantasm
Apr 7, 2011

YOSPOS

She also has Parallel Minds Lv. 4 so she also has 3 other brains just chatting it up in her headspace.

Nitrousoxide
May 30, 2011

do not buy a oneplus phone



Electric Phantasm posted:

She also has Parallel Minds Lv. 4 so she also has 3 other brains just chatting it up in her headspace.

Something that's been skipped by the human side story long ago is that non-crazy people (IE, people who aren't Kumoko) generally don't turn on parallel minds permanently because you quickly loose your sense of who's you. You generally only turn it on for combat and then turn it off right after, so the minds tend to be very short lived.

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Paracelsus
Apr 6, 2009

bless this post ~kya

Nitrousoxide posted:

Ariel sure has a lot of skills, lets take a looksee at them...



hmmmm...........



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