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rex rabidorum vires
Mar 26, 2007

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Zodijackylite posted:

I do like how the Rangers put this behind them and came back to win a game.

The third pairing seems to be cursed, though. Miller earned his spot in the top four, alongside Trouba and the Lindgren-Fox pairing. Everyone else is dropping like flies. Johnson is injured, DeAngelo has been fired into the sun, and Smith got knocked out last night and it looked pretty bad.

I was going to jokingly congratulate you to beating a team that iced Cody Ceci for 25 minutes, but he only played 14:30 last night.

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rex rabidorum vires
Mar 26, 2007

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stab posted:

Sooo uhhhhh CAS.....


why the hell did you guys not sign Toffoli?

I mean he is absolutely incredible for Montreal so far.

It is me Rex. The insane and probably somewhat annoying poster that mostly regurgitates dumb spreadsheet stuff here to tell you.....I loving told you so!

rex rabidorum vires
Mar 26, 2007

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Good Soldier Svejk posted:

Are you suggesting that's an inappropriate term or am I missing a joke?

They're all chudly teams op. I would very much not like to see Tony D in Pitt.

rex rabidorum vires
Mar 26, 2007

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Eric the Mauve posted:

Sounds like a Pittsburgh Penguin already, what's his cap hit? Too much, I hope.

1.7 per. He's probably miles better than Kevin Czuczman. No idea on how he compares with Yannick Weber.

rex rabidorum vires
Mar 26, 2007

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Lol completely owned. Do not blame him at all.

rex rabidorum vires
Mar 26, 2007

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Not shocked at all. Ice hockey is probably the worst of all the professional sports in regards to high risk for transmission.

rex rabidorum vires
Mar 26, 2007

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How many players go on LTIR with Covid complications to circumnavigate buyouts and retirement penalties?

rex rabidorum vires
Mar 26, 2007

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Good soup! posted:

From BroadstreetHockey


Ok, I've been seeing this kind of stuff consistently at BSH this season and did they get an all new staff or are we just not watching the same hockey games, the Flyers looked absolutely terrible for wide stretches and had the foot on the gas only for a small portion from what I saw

Hell I don't even think for their write-up for the Islanders game with that absolute clown show third period where everyone had sticks made of rubber and couldn't help turning the puck over again and again even mentioned any of that

The gently caress is going on lol, they're normally pretty good at picking this kind of thing apart

I can help! The problem here is you're trying to watch the hockey game. That is wrong. What you should be doing is staring at a spreadsheet. Spreadsheet says Boston had 53-54% of the corsi and actual shots. Flyers had 59% of the scoring chances while they and the Bruins split the high danger chances. xG per Natural Stat says they split 53 to 47 in Philly's favor. Despite that the Flyers converted 1 high danger and 2 regular scoring into goals at 5v5. That is at least the beginnings of sustainable hockey and why they are talking the way they are.

rex rabidorum vires
Mar 26, 2007

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Eric the Mauve posted:

So what's the inevitable MAF back to Pittsburgh trade in a month or two going to look like? Kinda tricky since both teams are capped out.

Start the work on Ian Cole and Nick Bonino as well.

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Mar 26, 2007

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Lol the Pens getting .861 and .894 goaltending. Murray is somehow putting up comparable or worse so that's pretty funny. The heat maps of goals against are almost all on top of the crease. Maybe it's a system thing.

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Mar 26, 2007

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Krime posted:

It would help if Letang didn't do the dumbest thing possible so often.

Sullivan is a great coach but something ain't working

Letang has been noticably declining for a few years now and it's unfortunate to watch. If he could reign in some of his impulses he'd probably be fine, but RIP.

rex rabidorum vires
Mar 26, 2007

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Well yea refs can't hand out freebies for you in hockey the same way.

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Mar 26, 2007

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Duck Rodgers posted:

The refs gave out a free goal just this afternoon

Did the team get a trophy for that?

Flocons de Jambon posted:

Louis CK has a bit where he says maybe pedophiles wouldn't kill so many victims if we didn't get so furious at them for molesting kids.

Along the same lines maybe we wouldn't have so many convoluted video replay rules if everyone could just shut the gently caress up about the refs blowing an obvious offside call or Stanley Cup winning goal.

gently caress video replay. The refs were right, they shouldn't even show it in the arena. Fans watching replays on their phones should be kicked out.

This is bad and you should feel bad about it. Maybe more stuff about pounding ref's dogs or something.

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Mar 26, 2007

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Ginette Reno posted:

In 2000-01 he averaged 26:52 per game in ice time on the Panthers. Absolutely absurd beer league poo poo. That's one of my favorite Bure stats.

Crosby's highest average toi in his career was 21:57. Ovechkin's was 23:06. And that's young Crosby/Ovechkin.

Mitch Marner is currently the most played forward wat *nearly* 23 minutes a night. Conor McDavid and Mark Scheifele about :30 behind at 22:30.

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Mar 26, 2007

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OldSenileGuy posted:

Would mandatory full-face shields for the league help mitigate this? Would the players ever agree to that?

Only if they include n95+ filtration otherwise it could arguably be worse in how it would trap covid particles in and around the nose/mouth area.

Edit: Part of the deal is the NHL allegedly has 'robust' contact tracing sooooooooo

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Mar 26, 2007

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Reminder the CDC still hasn't stated that Covid is predominantly transmitted via aerosolization despite mountains of evidence for it. So the NHL is just following the leader.


Sure whatever. This could be great content.

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Mar 26, 2007

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DJExile posted:

If you like absolutely loaded prospect pipelines that never move up to the NHL team, then Ron is 100% your guy.

What's a prospect?

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Mar 26, 2007

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It's very much cash in and rebuild time imo. Letang and Malkin both have a year left (after this season) and I think if the Pens can get value out of trading those contracts maybe they do. However, not a ton of picks and there is a mess of contracts now from GM JR just throwing everything at the wall and seeing what stuck.

It'll be different that's for sure and if he isn't handing out dumb as gently caress offseason contracts that would be nice. Also get rid of Matheson. I think you could potentially pivot the roster, but man it's iffy. I don't think this team and it's current system is near a cup though.

rex rabidorum vires
Mar 26, 2007

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Eric the Mauve posted:

You'll recall Rutherford's departure happened because he worked out a deal to trade Letang and ownership refused to allow it. Letang and Malkin aren't going anywhere and in fact will probably be re-signed.

Oh I'm very aware. I shudder to think what the return for Letang would have been though...actually wonder if that trade would have been with Winnipeg.

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Mar 26, 2007

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Mind_Taker posted:

Is it me or is the NHL just comically worse than every other league at dealing with COVID?

The NFL and MLB were also poo poo-shows for a while. Hockey though by virtue of how often they play and the conditions they play in with the total number involved personnel probably jumps that exposure number way up.

rex rabidorum vires fucked around with this message at 17:46 on Feb 9, 2021

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Mar 26, 2007

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Eric the Mauve posted:

Cap space that could be turned into some desperately needed depth via other moves down the road.

With a $7.25M cap hit though, yeah it's nigh impossible to pull off midseason. You pretty much have to be taking back a bad contract which just amounts to pissing Crosby off to no purpose. But if a trade is out there for, like, some player that's overpaid at $4-5M for the next 2 years plus a decent player making $2-3M, it could be worth doing.

Tbh cap space is going to be a super precious commodity moving forward assuming revenue is uh what it is right now. Theoretically we could see how this season goes and they still have 1 year left each (Letang/Malkin) and see what you can for them in the offseason. That's why the Matheson contract is so poo poo and why the Tanev deal could be an issue sooner rather than later.

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Mar 26, 2007

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Stoked for this poo poo show.

Kilza posted:

https://twitter.com/NBCSportsPR/status/1359221734579310595

That Oilers-Sens game is gonna draw, like, 15 viewers in the US.

I'll probably watch it to see if McDavid puts up 10 points.

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Mar 26, 2007

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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:

Bennett for Ceci please and thank you.

I'd do this trade in a heartbeat. Retain on Bennett tho.

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Mar 26, 2007

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CBJSprague24 posted:

Lost in the shuffle of "lol gently caress Torts" is Laine was the subject of his own "This Guy Scored" last night, which probably didn't help his coach's mood:
https://twitter.com/markscheig/status/1358956784870899718

So I looked up this play because I'm staring at this picture and I see 2 D men in front with 1 Hurricane. 2 other Jackets tied up in the circle with another Cane and Laine...there.

Events - Faceoff loss. Canesleft winger easy pass to the left point. Canes D guy has 2 seconds shifts to his left to throw the puck at the net. 23 for the Canes gets away with a bit of a pick. Puck hits someone in front. There are 2 Canes on top of each other with the puck in the high slot after the puck is blocked down. 13 gets a decent shot off with 2 CBJ players both in mad scramble mode to try and block the shot. 23 gets free and finds the puck out in front because someone does block the shot (whoever the Jacket is in front) and it's easy to put home because of mad scramble.

Now Laine basically floats out towards the point from the face off loss. Follows the D guy down into the top of the circle and then just stands on the faceoff dot. Laine doesn't really do anything else. Now I guess Laine could come into the pile of humanity in the slot and help out there. If you're being super critical of Laine it's that he is in no mans land achieving nothing. However, his teammates are running around completely unstructured and lol that's why they got scored on. Benching Laine for a complete system breakdown there is loving stupid though.

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Mar 26, 2007

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Italian infrastructure falling apart water wet.

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Mar 26, 2007

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Sullivan has benched players before, but it's usually 4th liners that gently caress up really bad and are costing the team the game.

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Mar 26, 2007

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Aphrodite posted:

And historically, if you can't find the sphere you just play with 1 fewer person and the problem is solved.

I have an idea for the Weakest Link reboot.....

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Mar 26, 2007

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Do the UEFA Champions league thing and make your own NHL anthem and just play that for everyone. Leave out the UEFA bribery though.

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Mar 26, 2007

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DildenAnders posted:

I'm pretty sure their possesion numbers, expected goal %'s, and other nerd poo poo are all markedly better than last year, like from one of the worst teams in the league to at least above average. Just their goaltending has taken a hilarious time to take a dump, and their non-Panarin veterans are seemingly allergic to putting the puck in the net. I'm sure it'll level off (especially with how good Shesterkin is as a goalie) but these stretches are very often the final straws for coaches before getting fired.

47% coris, 48.5% shots for, and 47% xGF last year with 51.2% actual results on the back of above average scoring/high danger chance conversion. This year it's a 49% corsi for, 51% Shots for, and 51% xGF. Currently rocking a 46% actual GF on the back of a bit lower scoring/high danger chance conversions and a drop off in the sv% numbers. The east is really weird this year though. Flyers are getting decent outcomes despite being not very good on the spreadsheet. Pittsburgh is getting the 2nd worst goaltending in the league...good thing they traded a puts finger to ear piece hm the guy they traded...that bad? Wow. The East is wide open.

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Mar 26, 2007

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Good Soldier Svejk posted:

I'm trying to think of an equivalent as like... just a really longtime session musician.
Not quite a Robert Fripp but someone who didn't really have much of a solo career to speak of but could come in on a track and lay something down and then move on.

Fripp has King Crimson so I think that analogy breaks down super fast.

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Mar 26, 2007

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FBS posted:

And uhhhhhhhh what if he dies before then?

At least it wouldn't be the NHLs doing. You know unlike the CMA lifetime achievement recipient Charley Pride...

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Mar 26, 2007

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Jackie Redmond says Nashville is fraudulent lol owned.

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Mar 26, 2007

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Good Soldier Svejk posted:

I made homemade pierogi for dinner tonight. May it bring this wretchedly cursed penguins team a change of fortune

Did you deep fry it as is PA tradition?

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Mar 26, 2007

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I do not like Brian Burke and would prefer he barn fight his way out of the league

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Mar 26, 2007

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CocoaNuts posted:

I recall quite clearly watching the Pens get muscled off the puck on more occasions than I could count by a far more physical Caps team over the past few playoffs.

I'm not sure which playoffs you're watching then 'cause outside of the Caps run in '17-18 they haven't played the Pens and the 2 previous times...oh the Caps lost. That Wilson was suspended for a hit that wasn't even assessed a minor let alone the 5 minute major it should have been lol yeah great physicality. This of course ignores the blindside concussive hit he got away with the game previously.

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Ginette Reno posted:

I don't even know if it's all that either. I think a lot of other teams got better and the Pens stagnated a bit. There's also been a huge push to emulate how the Pens played. Teams are going more focused on speed and skill. The speed advantage the Pens used to have is not as much evident against most teams now. Everyone can skate.

And also no Pens fan wants to hear this but Crosby/Malkin are getting older and worse. They're less able to carry the team on their backs now than they were back then and it's only going to get worse year by year. They're still great players but they need more support now.

IMO I don't think Sullivan has the players to execute his systems and getting those players is probably impossible 'cause it requires the Crosby/Geno of a few years ago along with a Conor Sheary having a career year, a breakout Guentzel, Bonino providing extremely solid 3rd line play along with a high flying Hagelin (who shouldn't have been traded :( ) and Kessel, and having a D Core that could move the puck cleanly and efficiently.

At present the goaltending is the most glaring issue, however the defending is paying a part into that. The front of the Pens goal is a bright red blob of super high danger chances that they're giving away every game. Something Sullivan loves to do is have his center swing super low into the corner/behind the net battles and if they win that battle they go up the wing and take a bumper pass to the middle. Unfortunately this hasn't worked as well in the last 3.5 years vs the first 2.5 years for Sullivan and a big part of that is speed both in terms of the Pens centers and their defenders. Letang can't skate anywhere nearly like he used to and most the rest of the back end now are decent but they aren't the Makar/Hughes jump up on the play types that thrived in Sullivan's system. I think the team can still have some success, but it likely requires a tighter system.....and some saves.

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Jhet posted:

I’m laughing because the olympics are maybe still going to happen. Let’s get thousands of athletes and coaches together in one place from all over the globe. I’m sure it’ll be fine.

It would also be the first time I’d actually turn on the weather channel for more than 30 seconds.

I've watched Isles/Pens games on the upper half of the cablevision tv guide channel so this is a major upgrade.

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GM JRs trading of Hornqvist was a massive dick move and probably a huge gently caress you to the room and likely has as much to do with his removal as anything. Fucks sake didn't even approach the player about his trade clause. Makes me wonder if GM JRs constant chopping and changing via trades became an issue for general team harmony/morale.

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Mike_V posted:

The Pens only have 1 regulation win all year??

Eyup. It's completely sustainable. That regulation win came with minutes left in the 3rd as well after being outplayed for long periods. :tif:

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Duchene got paid and lol at buying it out. He's already set. But, Jack Johnson is still getting contracts so forever would be my guess. Makes me mourn for Yak city though :(

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