NHL N/V Feb: Shady, Not Too Bright, and Annoyed at the Flyers Anyway

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DJExile: Jun 28, 2007

fantastic thread title

also it's been a banner couple days for postgame presser quotes

https://twitter.com/BenPopeCST/status/1356331937586159618

# ¿ Feb 1, 2021 21:12

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# ¿ Apr 24, 2024 06:55

DJExile: Jun 28, 2007

AsInHowe posted:

Where is this from?

Sources close to the team

# ¿ Feb 1, 2021 22:09

DJExile: Jun 28, 2007

https://twitter.com/NHLhistorygirl/status/1356589268592918531

happy birthday to my favorite absurdly flexible tiny russian goalie

I remember he was the Goalie Coach and had to dress as backup for the Sabres a few years ago when their starter got hurt (Neuvirth hurt himself. Shocking, I know.) and their AHL starter I think was in town but couldn't get out of his house because a blizzard hit. I wanted so fuckin' badly to see him go in.

# ¿ Feb 2, 2021 14:26

DJExile: Jun 28, 2007

Oh that's right :doh:

I saw he was born in the USSR and didn't even think of it

# ¿ Feb 2, 2021 15:34

DJExile: Jun 28, 2007

https://twitter.com/NHLhistorygirl/status/1356606046903693312?s=20

Jen has a bunch of great little tidbits this morning

# ¿ Feb 2, 2021 15:49

DJExile: Jun 28, 2007

John Davidson's been in and around the NHL and hockey media for decades now. He had to know a statement like that wasn't going to come off well. Frankly it creates more questions than it answers.

Also league just announced tonight's Sabres/Isles game is postponed due to covid protocols.

# ¿ Feb 2, 2021 16:43

DJExile: Jun 28, 2007

Broad Street Hockey has been fantastic and it's where Charlie O'Connor got his start

# ¿ Feb 2, 2021 17:39

DJExile: Jun 28, 2007

https://twitter.com/BroadStBull/status/1356688825670639621

goddamnit

# ¿ Feb 2, 2021 21:39

DJExile: Jun 28, 2007

Matt Zerella posted:

https://twitter.com/RickCarpiniello/status/1356753151651680261

wtf

Well that didn't take long

# ¿ Feb 3, 2021 01:26

DJExile: Jun 28, 2007

Flyers going with a defenseman carousel this year the way they did one for goalies a couple years ago.

https://twitter.com/NHLFlyers/status/1356988234832691201

# ¿ Feb 3, 2021 16:31

DJExile: Jun 28, 2007

https://twitter.com/IneffectiveMath/status/1357012190155390977

oof

# ¿ Feb 3, 2021 18:07

DJExile: Jun 28, 2007

https://twitter.com/draisaitlgifs/status/1356811922734112771

# ¿ Feb 3, 2021 22:23

DJExile: Jun 28, 2007

rex rabidorum vires posted:

I can help! The problem here is you're trying to watch the hockey game. That is wrong. What you should be doing is staring at a spreadsheet. Spreadsheet says Boston had 53-54% of the corsi and actual shots. Flyers had 59% of the scoring chances while they and the Bruins split the high danger chances. xG per Natural Stat says they split 53 to 47 in Philly's favor. Despite that the Flyers converted 1 high danger and 2 regular scoring into goals at 5v5. That is at least the beginnings of sustainable hockey and why they are talking the way they are.

It's this, and yeah that bruins game was ultimately one they were due to have. The flyers had a miserable 1st but largely went blow for blow with Boston the rest of the way, but they miss Coots something fierce, the late penalties were backbreakers, and Boston is still a very goddamn good team. That game was very much a coin flip and the Flyers likely come away with the win if Coots is there to help shut down Boston's top line.

E:

Charlie O'Connor posted:

3. The Flyers missed Sean Couturier big time

The argument that all of the Flyers� underlying issues this season can be attributed to the absence of their top-line, Selke Trophy-winning center doesn�t hold up upon close inspection. Of course, they are a worse team without Couturier, but his absence alone didn�t turn the Flyers from a 53 percent play-driving team at five-on-five to a 45 percent one. It didn�t turn them from a dangerous contender to a paper tiger. Their dramatic regression should be pinned only on the players left behind; the loss of Couturier was always going to hurt, but considering the Flyers� available talent, there�s no reason the team�s entire process should have fallen apart with him out of the picture. He doesn�t move the needle that much.

Does he move the needle enough to swing a relatively evenly-matched overtime game against the East Division favorite, though? That�s a different story.

Think about how the Bruins won this game: They leaned on their stars such as Pastrnak, who scored a hat trick and the primary assist on Patrice Bergeron�s game-winning goal. Against the Bruins� other three lines, the Flyers held up fine, carrying play against Boston�s bottom six and outscoring its second line 2-0. They just couldn�t keep the Perfection Line off the scoreboard, at even strength or on the power play. Hmmm, if only Philadelphia had a dominant two-way center with a track record of going head-to-head with superstars in all situations and shutting them down.

The Flyers� matchup cheat code against the Bruins is Couturier�s ability to not only eat minutes against Pastrnak, Bergeron and Brad Marchand, but also come out on top in them. With Couturier out, Alain Vigneault resorted to using the fourth line to open the game against Boston�s big guns and making Kevin Hayes the most-used forward, despite his limitations as a defensive center. The result: Connor Bunnaman�s line immediately lost its early first-period matchup in ignominious fashion, and Hayes took the minor penalty that led to Pastrnak�s tying goal. In both situations, Couturier is likely out there if healthy, and that�s not even counting the potential impact of his presence on the penalty kill.

Had the Flyers been outshot 40-20 and crushed territorially at five-on-five, then Couturier�s absence wouldn�t have loomed so large. But the way this game played out, he certainly could have swung it.

DJExile fucked around with this message at 17:43 on Feb 4, 2021

# ¿ Feb 4, 2021 17:36

DJExile: Jun 28, 2007

https://twitter.com/JeffVeillette/status/1357098330438987776

this is a good read

# ¿ Feb 4, 2021 17:50

DJExile: Jun 28, 2007

fawning deference posted:

Is Sam Bennett good?

Micah's blobs seem to show him as a solid offensive guy who can get torched defensively overall, and that he's having a pretty rough year on both ends so far.

# ¿ Feb 4, 2021 20:00

DJExile: Jun 28, 2007

holy poo poo

https://twitter.com/notontvotoole/status/1357444899273080838

# ¿ Feb 4, 2021 23:04

DJExile: Jun 28, 2007

Matt Zerella posted:

https://twitter.com/hayyyshayyy/status/1357519438061404160

Shots fired

hahahahaha that's fantastic

# ¿ Feb 5, 2021 03:51

DJExile: Jun 28, 2007

https://twitter.com/IneffectiveMath/status/1357530544691683336

is that good

# ¿ Feb 5, 2021 04:37

DJExile: Jun 28, 2007

Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:

https://twitter.com/MrBooth_7/status/1357412231969861632

lmao

# ¿ Feb 5, 2021 17:56

DJExile: Jun 28, 2007

https://twitter.com/notontvotoole/status/1358056232892956672

# ¿ Feb 6, 2021 16:26

DJExile: Jun 28, 2007

https://twitter.com/NHLFlames/status/1358249123141533699

this is fantastic

# ¿ Feb 7, 2021 04:49

DJExile: Jun 28, 2007

https://twitter.com/TheAHL/status/1358252731631345666

The hockey fan side of me thinks the silver helmets are rad, but the jerseys... yeeeesh

The broadcaster side of me is loving livid at those numerals

# ¿ Feb 7, 2021 13:46

DJExile: Jun 28, 2007

https://twitter.com/avappleyard/status/1358498253088636933

FIRE THERRIEN

# ¿ Feb 7, 2021 20:33

DJExile: Jun 28, 2007

Toaster Beef posted:

the flyers are so loving bad and they just keep getting away with it

They're tremendous in the offensive zone, the problem has been getting there.

And the power play. And Robert Hagg. And the power play. And giving Carter Hart some God damned help. And the power play.

# ¿ Feb 7, 2021 21:29

DJExile: Jun 28, 2007

https://twitter.com/IneffectiveMath/status/1358543709160296449?s=20

# ¿ Feb 7, 2021 23:42

DJExile: Jun 28, 2007

https://twitter.com/charlieo_conn/status/1358548655171661828

# ¿ Feb 7, 2021 23:59

DJExile: Jun 28, 2007

Flocons de Jambon posted:

Louis CK has a bit where he says maybe pedophiles wouldn't kill so many victims if we didn't get so furious at them for molesting kids.

Along the same lines maybe we wouldn't have so many convoluted video replay rules if everyone could just shut the gently caress up about the refs blowing an obvious offside call or Stanley Cup winning goal.

gently caress video replay. The refs were right, they shouldn't even show it in the arena. Fans watching replays on their phones should be kicked out.

Lol

# ¿ Feb 8, 2021 11:58

DJExile: Jun 28, 2007

https://twitter.com/domluszczyszyn/status/1358777792234741762

Dom did a great dive into OT strategies

# ¿ Feb 8, 2021 15:17

DJExile: Jun 28, 2007

Levitate posted:

This is like AV hockey 101.

Ya'll keep making snarky comments when I or other Rangers fans bring him up but this is AV hockey. His teams get out shot like mother fuckers, have terrible analytics, but generate a lot of high quality scoring chances. With the Rangers at least they also didn't defend the front of the net well (because they're always chasing the puck in the defensive zone or something?) and the cycle was also usually mediocre and most of the chances came off the rush.

It's honestly pretty fun when it's working but the reason we all got into "FIRE AV" mode is when it stops working it sucks to watch your team dick around and get easily stuffed offensively because everyone else has figured out how to mostly stop your one trick pony offense that can't sustain pressure and then they just trap you in the defensive end because your defense is a tire fire.

Flyers are more talented though so maybe they can ride that wave

I've got no problem with the offense overall, frankly, but rolling out 2 defensemen for a PP unit and getting 1 shot on goal during a 4 minute double-minor is just lunacy and seems to be down to Therrien galaxy-braining the power play.

E: and yeah the Flyers under Hakstol turtled HARD on leads but they largely haven't under AV. The third period has been their best for a while now and they're very good at keeping the pace up late when they're winning.

# ¿ Feb 8, 2021 16:22

DJExile: Jun 28, 2007

https://twitter.com/NHLhistorygirl/status/1358798239818915841

Bure as a Panther is still one of the most absolutely bizarre things to me.

# ¿ Feb 8, 2021 16:31

DJExile: Jun 28, 2007

https://twitter.com/domluszczyszyn/status/1358806120127676417

god I love Jake Voracek

# ¿ Feb 8, 2021 16:55

DJExile: Jun 28, 2007

https://twitter.com/charlieo_conn/status/1358826168926015489

# ¿ Feb 8, 2021 18:13

DJExile: Jun 28, 2007

Mind_Taker posted:

https://twitter.com/GenePrincipe/status/1358824455619792897?s=20

I cannot wait for this game.

oh man this is gonna be appointment television

# ¿ Feb 8, 2021 18:20

DJExile: Jun 28, 2007

The Flyers are still VERY dump-in heavy as entries go, but they've combined that with quick rushes in alongside it. It's worked very well when they lean on it, especially against a team like the Islanders that do everything they can to jam up the neutral zone and cause turnovers.

Unrelated, this is very cool:

https://twitter.com/domluszczyszyn/status/1358863497132711940

# ¿ Feb 8, 2021 20:49

DJExile: Jun 28, 2007

https://twitter.com/IneffectiveMath/status/1359132512455393280

congrats sens AS

# ¿ Feb 9, 2021 14:36

DJExile: Jun 28, 2007

If you like absolutely loaded prospect pipelines that never move up to the NHL team, then Ron is 100% your guy.

# ¿ Feb 9, 2021 14:59

DJExile: Jun 28, 2007

Good Soldier Svejk posted:

Yeah thank god people figured out you can destroy trap hockey with fast skaters and stretch passes cause that poo poo sucks. I mean two boring teams are still gonna be able to grind games to dust but a team constructed with old school defense first mentality is gonna get wrecked by a high skill team every time.

the Columbus sweep of an absolutely loaded Tampa Bay team wasn't that long ago, and St. Louis won a cup by grinding the poo poo out of everyone. I agree it's not entertaining hockey and teams have started to find ways to beat it, but it's not like it hasn't been used effectively before.

# ¿ Feb 9, 2021 15:28

DJExile: Jun 28, 2007

Eric the Mauve posted:

I'm honestly terrified of Hextall becoming the Penguins GM because he kept Hakstol around loving forever in Philly and it sounds like a recipe for Mike Johnston Experience 2: Return of The System.

Mike Johnson isn't Ron's hire though. Hakstol was.

# ¿ Feb 9, 2021 16:10

DJExile: Jun 28, 2007

https://twitter.com/charlieo_conn/status/1359164505402593287

# ¿ Feb 9, 2021 16:44

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# ¿ Apr 24, 2024 06:55

DJExile: Jun 28, 2007

wellp https://twitter.com/DarrenDreger/status/1359167867850219528

E: KILZA! :doom:

# ¿ Feb 9, 2021 16:57

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