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SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

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idk what brainworms Octane mains develop that makes them think that A) hot dropping solo onto the most crowded point on the map is a good idea and B) that it's somehow the rest of their team's fault and worthy of screaming down their mic at us about but goddamn like every other Octane pic I've had tonight has those exact worms.

On a lighter note, really enjoying the Anniversary mode. Honestly makes me wish it'd be made a regular thing, dropping with the basic kit makes for more interesting hotdrops, less "whoops I grabbed a Spitfire before you got your pants on, have fun requeuing".

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SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

TOXIC
After my last few games I'm all for this.

Pubbies just can't resist running into the middle of a 2+ way firefight and flailing around in confusion as their MLG pro l33t gamer skills suddenly fail as they're riddled with bullets on every side.

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

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Only squeezed in a couple of games today but each one of them had the same problem i.e. pubbies dicking around too long going over every inch of the drop zone for scraps of loot when the next ring is at the other end of the map, ending in us barely keeping ahead of the closing ring while some yahoos ahead of us pop out of nowhere and take us out over bad cover.

I know it only does tiny ticks but goddamn, having to keep running as it scorches your rear end sucks. 's also funny that most pubbies are equally as blasé about the way more lethal late game rings, more than a few games thrown lately because of people diving at some dead in the water enemies outside the late ring, only to get killed by it in turn because they waded out to eat some of those doomed teams' bullets.




Hell yes. Gimme more Birthday mode time I'm all for it.

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

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Would be nice to not have the game lock up weirdly between Champion reveal and the pre-drop. More than a few times I've been left drumming my fingers awkwardly because the screen won't transition, even though everything is obviously advancing per the music/sounds/whatever.

Been trying to actively not default for a Spitfire & Triple Take/R99/Volt set up every game and I'm shocked just how good pistols feel in Apex compared to... every shooter in existence bar OG Halo. Feel like people really don't know what to do when you pull out a P2020, like they're stunned they're seeing it ever used beyond a desperate hotdrop skirmish.

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

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Put the Charge Rifle in Care Packages.

I'm just sick of seeing it take up Sniper spawns.

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

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*Sentinel


You'll take the Triple Take from my cold dead hands.

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

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Longbow without a Skullpiercer is just bad times. Honestly it's kinda shocking how much gear you need to slap on it to get it feeling like it should. Even just removing the need to Barrel it would go a long way.

Shotguns in general having next to no mod support is a similar problem in the opposite direction. Something like a speedloader hopup for the Mastiff, or a barrel mod that tightens spread would be neat.

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

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Have had some very... strange partners in Trios today. Drop with the rest of the squad but then immediately sprint away to some backwater part of the map. And I'm not talking an actual area either, complete deadspaces and ajoining areas. Without fail, each of them have then proceeded to not loot anything and then sit there pinging their location over and over until the ring forces them to move back to us.

Just once is strange enough, but 3 separate occasions almost in a row is just a lil' sus. Are they bots? Is there some dumb Twitch thing?

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

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Shame about Caustic, feels a little heavyhanded. Agreeing with people up thread that the damage would be fine if there wasn't the movement effects on top of it, Grenade nerf is a big meh for me.

Rampart changes are welcome but god please do something about Sheila. Let Rampart pick it up and wade in like TF2 Heavy, give its sights the Gold Optics highlighting, something to make it less of a giant HEADSHOT ME sign.

Shocked the Spitfire didn't get any tweaks at all.

No Fill is welcome and I'm looking forward to every game opening with every solo drop Octane/Wraith eating poo poo while the rest of us get on with the match.

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

TOXIC
Had a hell of a bug earlier. Been used to a weird lag in the first game of a given session but this was on another level. The game was running in straight up slow motion. Not low FPS either, just Zak Snyder rear end slow motion. It wasn't just me either, both my team-mates had it as well and judging how they moved, so did everyone else in that match. It took about 7 mins all told to actually get from the character select to dropping it was running so weird. Is this a known thing?

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

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Oh cool, that's a relief. Was pretty funny to see people flying about like a John Woo flick.

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

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In awe at Rampart's true passive, making your teammates ragequit before the anyone's left the dropship :v:

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

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Ring Flares good. Really help the flow of fights, especially near the end. First game with them we were chilling atop the walls of Airbase waiting for the last squad to poke their head out when a bunch of flares opened up and forced both of us to fight along the cliff between Airbase and Gauntlet, with another flare opening and forcing us to fight with it between us. Kept the whole fight from just us sniping them to pieces atop highground they couldn't possibly get up with their comp.

Haven't really noticed the Wattson changes, or Rampart's. A lot less Caustics around now by a noticeable amount, wonder why :allears:.

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

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I'm down for Bangalore's smoke no longer causing massive FPS drops for me. Caustic gas is strangely fine, but the Smoke Grenade just tanks if I'm close/zoomed on it.

Also I see that despite adding a solo queue option, people are still intent on joining squads, dropping a million miles away then screaming down coms when we don't drop everything and rescue them. Great!

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

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SKULL.GIF posted:

:stare: The new ring flare sure is something.

Yeah, I didn't notice the takeover had changed over to this new one, and evidently neither did our flightmaster that game who landed us directly into the middle of the mega flare.

Not sure how I like this one, but I've only gotten to the final ring once since it started up. Pubbies seem just as eager to embrace a late game flare as they are a late game ring however. Using Heat Shields hasn't seemed to have penetrated the collective consciousness either.

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

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Man I have no idea why people love bunker so much. It's a miserable mess unless you're a Caustic trying to cheese kills and the loot is rear end.

Labs at least has the stargate, a bunch of fun nooks and corners and half decent loot.

SteelMentor fucked around with this message at 15:35 on Mar 21, 2021

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

TOXIC
Bit of flat direction and lack of variation in her lines. Writing's good though, she's made a fun change of pace.

Also gosh dang it has not been my day for Apex. Been having partners drop connection left and right mid-deployment so ending up in duos or even singles by the time we're landing. Just not a fun experience. Did manage to accidentally stumble into a win taking potshots at a Wraith I thought was dawdling along when I wasn't checking the remaining squads counter :v:

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

TOXIC
Spitfire on Rampart is basically cheating, just never stops firing, then you end up reloading as fast if not faster than the dorks with the R-99s. (Speaking of, lol it's kinda weird that the Chaos Theory Rampart skin has an R-99 to go with it. It's a nice skin but c'monnnnnnn).

Really coming to love the L-Star a lot as well. It's an absolute ammo hog but it's so versatile. I've had shocking success just tapping out shots at distance, letting the low drop off take care of things while we wait for a opportunity to push. I just wish the Devotion felt as good to use as it's LMG buddies. Even with Rampart+Turbocharger it's a cow of a gun to use for anything other than fooling around, and that's a lot of set up when the L-Star does better pretty much off the ground.

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

TOXIC

Space Fish posted:

How do you troll kids with absolutely no chill?
Every few matches I'll end up with some punk who tells me how much I suck at the game (unlike them, the masters of Call of Duty) right before they inevitably die first and cry out "comegetme comegetme hereherehere come onnnnnnn" while pinging the same spot 100 times.

I accidently did it earlier by picking up a Shield Kit. Just 5 seconds of dead air then a absolute flurry of Eastern European broken English screaming down the coms calling me every name under the sun for "stealing".

Here's the thing though, they didn't ping dibs it. They didn't give any indication they needed it. It was late game and we were rolling in looted Phoenix Kits and what have you. I have no earthly idea why this one Shield Kit on the ground had them go that mad they spent the rest of the game meleeing me until they ate a headshot and quit.


By far the easiest way though is to let the inevitable, inescapable twichy Octanes/Wraiths the pub queues are stuffed with charge into 1vs3's and not even attempt to pull their idiot asses out the ground. Just go do something actually productive instead then swing around to take their gear.

SteelMentor fucked around with this message at 20:33 on Mar 31, 2021

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

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Pubs are really, really, really, REALLY bad at reading situations. Not just in terms of when a fight's going bad or when to enter one, but unless you're begging them in chat it's rare they'll notice you're limping along with a scrap of health and an empty gun.

Goes double for even semi-hot drops. More than once had people scream at me on a squad wipe when they hoovered up every last bullet they didn't need or dumped loot as they're fleeing whoever found the best shield first.

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

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Deffo feels like people see Wattson/Rampart/Caustic and think camping is all they're good for. A reactively playing Defence character can really help an aggro W+M1 squad enter and exit fights with on the fly advantage.

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

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Breaching buildings is a pretty fun time gotta admit.

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

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While we're on the pubbies suck train, goddamn it's still amazing how No Fill has completely passed over the perfectly smooth surface of the collective pubbie hivemind. Games this morning just stuffed with people doing the classic "solo drop, scream at team-mates when they can't sprint across the length of the map in a second to save you" and a bunch of idiots tucking themselves into forlorn corners to farm, then threatening reports if we dare revive them.

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

TOXIC
Pulled a hell of an accidental bamboozle earlier. Got third partied on the lil' shack atop the big Arsenal buildings and bulldozed through. One team-mate leaves and I'm expecting them to figure out that I had a Gold Drop Shield so I get up to get a drink...

Only to come back and realise they haven't, they think I've D/Ced or something and left me alone. I rez myself, use a PK then catch them off guard dicking around with a Black Market. Rez my buddy with a Mobile Beacon and manage to go on to top 2. Couldn't stop smirking like a doofus.

Also dittoing that Lifeline's ult sucks, just a big ol' WE'RE HERE SHOOT US button, the occasional Gold Sniper sights don't make up. Couldn't tell you what I'd change it to though.

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

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Please Respawn, if Olympus is getting a revamp then just dump the new POI on top of Estates, or just better yet add a giant death chasm where it stands. I've hotdropped it 5 games in a row tonight and I wanna die it sucks so hard.

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

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Volt's control deffo puts it on level with the R-99 imo. R-99 often feels all or nothing, either you just delete someone from the game or you piss a full clip into the grass. Volt feels a lil' better when you're stuck at mid-range as well.

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

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Bow feels like a weird add immediately after the similar niche of the 30-30 but some of the leakers were speculating that the other gun everyone was rumouring about wasn't ready yet so *shrug* who knows.

Short was great, feels like the devs are having a lot of fun fleshing out the Titanfall setting. So many plot points they've established in Apex they could snatch up on in a theoretical Titanfall 3. A multiway hellwar for Salvo would be pretty rad.

Guess this is the point in the thread we start wishlisting for changes we wanna see in the Season change over. Personally would like to see the Double-Tap hop-up added back in, Turbocharger bumped down to a purp or just straight up worked into the base design of the not-Volt energy guns, Prowler made regular loot again and either the Charge Rifle or Devotion yeeted into the void of care package guns. Also once again, nuke Estates and Waterfall.

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

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Yeah the RE45 is a bit of a threat. Give it a Quickdraw and it's a great sidearm for a Spitfire or any other gun with a long rear end reload.

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

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Rampart main detected

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

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Dear god I hope Arena peels off even a fraction of the twitchy GOGOGOGOGOGO pubbies, 3 out of 5 games today stuck with a pair of them who hotdrop, grab a single gun and maybe a single reload's worth of ammo before charging off towards the nearest firefight to get caught in the middle of.

At least one of those games I grabbed a fully kitted Longbow and spent the rest of the game after my teammates rage quit before their bodies hit the ground stalking the remaining teams and practicing my headshots.

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

TOXIC

quote:

Triple Take moved to Care Packages

:negative:


They're taking my baby away thread.

Bow looks cool though.


Just realised this means that the Kraber, Gold Longbow AND now Pink Triple Take are in CP's. Gosh dang.

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

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After a particularly awful hotdrop onto Waterfall today I was praying that area at least would get blocked off by a vine or something. Would spare my poor framerate as well.

Also Estates sucks etc etc etc, I hope we at least get a Takeover for Olympus soon.

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

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Loba changes good. Just slam down one of a million UA's that get left by even the greediest looters if it isn't quite charged when you hit a PoI.

Marksman weapons getting a movement/handling speed buff is a godsend.

Gonna look forwards to Octanes regularly murdering themselves with Stims.

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

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There's a lotta lotta Cryptos who seem to think their sole job is to dick around in the drone while the rest of the team does all the actual shooting. Great if they're an enemy team and the drone's doing silly lil' loop-de-loops while you 3v2 the rest of them, naturally quite poo poo if they're your Crypto. These ones also don't seem to know any of the neat useful stuff the drone can do (respawn, nearby squads ping) and aren't all that good at flying it either.

Funnily enough, I find a lotta random Cryptos like to just... not use the drone, at all. As far as they're concerned, Crypto doesn't have abilities. Just baffling.

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

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Dehumanise yourself and just play Apex.

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

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I was already grinding my teeth waiting for my download to slug along, now I'm desperate to get in and Laser Beam people as Rampart before they fix it.

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

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Only managed to get a handful of non-bugged, non-immediately dome'd in an Estates hotdrop games in so far. Only got Valk once but she feels really, really good. It may not be the zippy cheat mode people feared it was, but her flight allows her to approach fights like no other champion can, even Pathfinder can't get that kind of on-demand transversal she can. It feels really good and I'm looking forwards to trying to main her once the hype calms down.

Marksman weapon changes feel good as hell. G7 and 30-30 feel like a legitimate threat now. Was having a real debate at points between picking a Sniper over one now the Triple-Take's in Care Package jail. Haven't gotten the chance to use Shatter Caps on the 30-30 but there was a bunch of situations when I could have used the on-demand shottie mode. Bow's gonna take some getting used to, but not a lot of chances to practice with everyone scrambling for them.

Haven't felt/seen the brunt of the balance changes in action yet, buuuuuuuuuut in each game I had an Octane they without fail over-used Stim and immediately ate a poo poo upon someone spotting them :allears:

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

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Got more Valk games in, she owns bones. Does she say anything or do any indicators pop up when she uses her ult? Have had a hell of a time getting people to come use the free jump rather than slogging it on foot.

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

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Had a hell of a scuffle yesterday on Valk. Our Loba dived at an enemy team while the rest of us were still scooping up whatever we could from the drop and gave away our position at Power Grid. Cue a protracted combat where me and our Path in a mirror match clambered, swung, jump jetted and generally just zoomed all over and through this one building deathmatching at each other, emptying guns then swiping whatever we could find on the floor until their Valk got a lucky missile swarm off. Was some of the best I've ever had from Apex, don't even mind that I lost it tbh.

Was generally just a good day all around to be honest. Got my 2000 dmg badge on a game where our third rage quit in a flurry of slurs after not getting Valk. We hot-dropped Icarus and somehow managed to slaughter our way from one end to the other, keeping incredibly mobile and picking our fights until we circled through Hammond through to Rift, getting in an intense showdown on an open patch between the ring and the phaserunner ball. They really need to fix the Spitfire because jeezus it was MVP.

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SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

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Forgive me if I'm being a dumbass but while we're talking loot, didn't they say that we were gonna start with a white backpack as well as the other white gear?

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