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Skyarb
Sep 20, 2018

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there is only ONE crypto related item in the battlepass, gently caress my life.

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Skyarb
Sep 20, 2018

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How much damage does the ring of fire actually do?

Skyarb
Sep 20, 2018

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MyChemicalImbalance posted:

Worst pubbie behaviour I've had was the octane who didn't do poo poo in bloodhounds trials but wait until the final alcove opened before throwing a jump pad underneath me and the other dude and taking all the loot.

Was impressively lovely tbh.

Can't wait for that one goon to come into the thread proudly proclaiming he does this too and its actually fine and good.

Skyarb
Sep 20, 2018

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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:

After they bopped Skull Town, KC played terribly. What I took away from it was that having POIs relatively evenly distributed in popularity and fairly close to each other creates third party hell. It seems to me that most maps actually need a Fragment/Hammond Labs type area to thin the herd and have the highly-aggressive (and generally fairly coordinated and skilled) players eliminate each other early.

"fairly coordinated and skilled" ... "Dropping fragment"

Hmmmmmm

Skyarb
Sep 20, 2018

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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:

Anecdotally, because their playerbase has already cratered. On Tueday pretty much everyone who played Apex on my friends list was playing it. On Wednesday it was about 30% of the people. Yesterday it was the usual gang of pretty hardcore players who go all season and all have decent badges.

What you've got to understand is if you're an average player, you're actually a bad player after around 2 - 3 days of a new piece of content launching as only the committed players hang around. The solution for this is just accept that you're going to get run over a lot of time, or find a nice regular group of good players who don't mind carrying you.

Edit: the other thing to accept is that if you're playing outside of prime time gaming hours (i.e. when kids are on) you're going to have a worse time as well.

"cratered"

https://steamcharts.com/app/1172470

Skyarb
Sep 20, 2018

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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:

I mean when I say "cratered" I just meant that it had a big influx of people, who then left. That's clearly not the case on the PC side - it's declining by only ~5k or so on peak hours. So you can say "hey that's wrong" about what I said, I ain't gonna take it personally. Doesn't change the fact that I had some easy wins on Tuesday but by Thursday it was regressing back to being mostly very coordinated squaded up good players, and that the game literally always follows this pattern of "more casual interest around season starts and events".

What is likely happening is you had some good matches you did well in and your mmr went up and now you are being matched against better players.

Even unranked has SBMM.

Skyarb
Sep 20, 2018

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If you ever want to watch a good example of a petulant child this guy is the poster boy. He is one of the most insufferable human beings I've ever watched play a game.

Skyarb
Sep 20, 2018

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Hell yeah get hosed caustic.

Skyarb
Sep 20, 2018

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Easiest way to get settings very similar, I've found, is I make my entire mouse pad equivalent to one full 360 in game. It's about 14". Don't need any fancy tools to do it, slide it from one end to the end and adjust settings accordingly.

Skyarb
Sep 20, 2018

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Simone Magus posted:

I'm really good at aiming grenades and arc stars, to like, a weird degree now. I guess practice really does work. I barely even look anymore, just hail Mary and then whoops my shield evolved

Got any tips. I play at a pretty high level but still can't use nades to save my life (I don't like fuse either so that is a no go for me)

Skyarb
Sep 20, 2018

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I cannot possibly disagree with something more. Mouse acceleration is a disease and causes players to miss reaction shots under pressure because the speed at which you flick is never consistent. What is consistent is mouse distance.

Skyarb
Sep 20, 2018

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man in the eyeball hat posted:

while I don't disagree that it's easier to play with it off I think muscle memory is the real key.

if you learned to play with acceleration i believe you can probably do just fine. you get better at flick shots by knowing what the movement is to rotate your crosshairs to the target, not by thinking out what the movements you need to make are. there's no reason you couldn't learn a more complicated movement that depends on your mouse velocity in addition to mouse displacement

Its another variable. And no doubt could you possibly get good or even proficient at it, it will almost certainly have a lower skill ceiling than playing without. Can you tell me for a FACT that you can move your mouse from position A to position B with the EXACT same speed every single time? I have no doubt you can move from position A to position B within a fraction of an inch every time, but at the same speed, consistently throughout your movement as well?

Its just not realistic. There is a reason there are barely ANY pro players who play with mouse acceleration. When using a substitute for real world controls, acceleration is not natural to our perception of translation, what is is a consistent scaling of distance to rotation.

If you enjoy playing with mouse accel on, sure go for it, have fun. But it has a serious limitation in consistency, and most people would be better served to play at a low sens, with accel off.

Skyarb
Sep 20, 2018

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man in the eyeball hat posted:

I edited my post, but there are CSGO pros who play with mouse acceleration. They probably use custom acceleration curves so it's not the default setting from Windows, but it is possible.

https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/5-cs-go-professionals-use-mouse-acceleration-settings

Yes they exist. Do you know why this article was written? Because it's so unusual. There is almost no data to suggest its actually better, and I think if the overwhelming majority of players don't use it, when their job is to literally click heads, its safe to assume its probably not secretly the cats meow.

Maybe there will be some emerging data to suggest its actually rad and good but as it stands now all we have are a small contigent of pro players and a bunch of anecdotals from people who turned it on and then specifically aim trained with it for months. That's not data and its not surprising that they got better when they put in that amount of effort.

Skyarb
Sep 20, 2018

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Kazinsal posted:

It's 100% like the dudes who still play with their keyboards rotated almost 90 degrees. They got used to it when you had four square feet of desk space at LAN parties and that was it.

Some pro players are just dudes who have been playing games. But the pro scene is insanely competitive now, and a multi-million dollar industry (maybe even billion these days). If there were a better way to aim we would be seeing players coming out of the wood work. poo poo Korea basically pays people to live in a house and train on games, don't you think they would have solved this by now and had all their players switch to mouse accel if its some secret sauce?

Skyarb
Sep 20, 2018

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repiv posted:

Lots of CS:GO pros play with 4:3 resolutions stretched out to 16:9 because they swear it makes them play better (then they die on LAN because they have no peripheral vision)

There's a ton of cargo culting around settings in that scene

There are lots of shooters other than cs:go and the majority of big scenes players don't do this anymore.

The biggest issue is people say that this new mouse acceleration is not the same as windows acceleration but still completely fail to say why that is better than none at all.

And if we're gonna talk about cargo culting, why is this new mouse acceleration better because some old quake players used to use it?

Skyarb
Sep 20, 2018

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mcbexx posted:


It's ridiculous how useless Caustic is now.
You can't even properly use the barrels as visible cover to heal up anymore.

loving good

Skyarb
Sep 20, 2018

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Chemmy posted:

What dailies are you getting that require being solo?

Play 2 games? Do 250 damage?

I go all my challenges solo. It usually is finished within 3-5 solo games (I go solo v trios)

Skyarb
Sep 20, 2018

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Loba is a bad character anyway that encourages all of the wrong kind of play. Her ult is sorta useful if your team is absolutely terrible at looting well on their own. It teaches players to use only specific weapons which causes then to flounder if they can't get their perfect load outs. It alerts nearby enemies because it's loud and gives a huge visual. It allows enemies to swoop loot if they take it too.

Ultimately your giving up a character with a good tactical and better ultimate because you are bad at looting efficiently and mag dump often without landing shots.

I would 9 times out of 10 get a teammate who is anyone but loba because chances are when I get a loba all they want to do is loot for ten hours until they get all the perfect attachments, they never want to fight and when they do they are pretty much useless.

Skyarb
Sep 20, 2018

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Skyarb posted:

Loba is a bad character anyway that encourages all of the wrong kind of play. Her ult is sorta useful if your team is absolutely terrible at looting well on their own. It teaches players to use only specific weapons which causes then to flounder if they can't get their perfect load outs. It alerts nearby enemies because it's loud and gives a huge visual. It allows enemies to swoop loot if they take it too.

Ultimately your giving up a character with a good tactical and better ultimate because you are bad at looting efficiently and mag dump often without landing shots.

I would 9 times out of 10 prefer to get a teammate who is anyone but loba because chances are when I get a loba all they want to do is loot for ten hours until they get all the perfect attachments, they never want to fight and when they do they are pretty much useless.

Skyarb
Sep 20, 2018

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Chemmy posted:

Early game you really reduce RNG with Loba. You arrive at a second potentially contested POI and from cover you can yank that purple shield and the purple light mag.

Late game you can have instant shield swaps and also can pull batts out of the pile of death boxes.

Everything you've described is more or less useless in a fight. Dropping smart means you can pretty well overcome rng load out trash and If you have time to set down a loba ult and use it to swap or get bats and the other team doesn't punish you, it's not that loba was good, it's that they were bad.

You know what else let's me swap and get bats from death boxes? My legs. I can I do it safer, quicker and stealthier in almost any situation other than a very select few edge cases.

If Loba is your favorite character, you should really try games like Call of Duty, you can get your favorite load out every time on spawn!

Skyarb fucked around with this message at 15:39 on Mar 29, 2021

Skyarb
Sep 20, 2018

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wa27 posted:

This is ridiculous

I'm traumatized by Loba pubbies don't @me

Skyarb
Sep 20, 2018

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xtal posted:

I'll post some other Loba tricks I use that give her some benefit I don't think you're considering.

1. You can drain the entire area of ammo by picking up all of one type, then replacing it in your bag with another type, and so on. All of the ammo will end up on the ground in a hidden corner. Half the benefit of Loba is getting loot, the other half is bogarting it from the enemies.

2. It complements a bunker team with Watson or Caustic since you don't need to leave your enclosed space to resupply.

3. You own every Care Package and can get the loot from safety. For example, steal a Kraber, then kill the people who were running to it.

4. You can drop next to explosive holds or vaults to steal all the golds from them in early game. Some spots on Kings Canyon are within range of 2 explosive holds are once, so you can get 4 gold items within a minute of dropping.

Though these are good, specifically #1, I'd still prefer literally any other legend to both play as and as a teammate. Even in spite of getting all the best loot, lobas are consistently dropping pathetic numbers in my games. And anyone who is very very good with Loba, I bet they would do even better as someone else in the long run. Of course maxing damage and winning games isn't the only metric for fun

Skyarb
Sep 20, 2018

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wa27 posted:

Bad players using Loba does not make Loba a bad character.

Good players playing loba also don't make loba a good character. Her underwhelming ability to change active fights make her a bad player.

Skyarb
Sep 20, 2018

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xtal posted:

Also, I've never done this before, but I want to experiment with using Black Market to body block or shield. It only has 100 hp but you can use it to block doors or briefly block corridors as it can't be ran through (bunker on king's canyon springs to mind) especially if you are just trying to separate a team from a downed teammate.

It'd probably work. Speaking of can watson ult block?

Skyarb
Sep 20, 2018

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dogstile posted:

High ground on demand is very good.

The problem is horizon exists and has that on an incredibly short tactical, for an entire team.

Please delete horizon.


I do this all the time. Surprised more people don't.


Yes

Octane, pathfinder, to a certain extent wraith too.

Skyarb
Sep 20, 2018

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dogstile posted:

They're on ults.


Her competitive pickrate has surpassed wraith, the previous way to loving good character.

Octane and pathfinders ults charge about as fast as lobas tactical.

Edit: I just looked it up, loba tac: 30 seconds. Octane pad: 60 seconds. Pathfinder zip: 120 seconds. SO ok lobas tac is a bit faster.

Skyarb
Sep 20, 2018

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Yellow Yoshi posted:

drat you really do hate loba huh

The only thing I hate more is ttv wraiths who immediately dc after taking a fight they would never win miles away from the team

Skyarb
Sep 20, 2018

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Yeah what kinda an idiot cares about their box after death. Chances are you don't even be able to get back to it

Skyarb
Sep 20, 2018

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Y'all brains are really really broken if you played tf2 and didn't like the titans. Like a seriously, painfully dumb opinion to have.

Prepare for Titanfall

Skyarb
Sep 20, 2018

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CoolCab posted:

i can really only comment on it having gone from apex -> tf2 but playing with the robots was like playing constantly stuck in rampart's gun. powerful sure but the game is about movement and none of the titan abilities are a fraction as broken as or anywhere in the same loving zip code as fun as wall jumps imo.

Repugnant

Skyarb
Sep 20, 2018

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Sorry can't hear you over turning things into pink mist with my giant weeb robot sword.

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Skyarb
Sep 20, 2018

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So her dad was Viper?

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