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Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006

Sure.

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Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006

What's wrong with the old corpse?

Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006

As someone who has not watched this movie in 15-20 years, does it hold up?

Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006

CapitalistPig posted:

Oh sorry, I forgot to mention

Executions are going to be

Plurality

I will add this to the op

Why did
you go all ee


cumm
ings ON
this post
?

Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006

Dammit, it ate my formatting. Mafia Edit:

CapitalistPig posted:

Oh sorry, I forgot to mention

Executions are going to be

Plurality

I will add this to the op
code:
Why did 
       you go all ee 


cumm
                ings ON 
    this post
                                                ?

Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006

Sandwolf posted:

You’re cumming where Grandi?!

You had to go low brow with it Sandy.
Pearls before swine.

Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006

Retro Futurist posted:

Because I could not stop and wait for sand
Sand kindly stopped and waited for me

In the carriage but yourselves and a vigilante?

Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006

Grandicap posted:

In the carriage but yourselves and a vigilante?

In the carriage just yourselves, a two-man masonry.

Fits the meter better.

Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006

Is this a new thing Toal, the first post vote thing?
I know I got up someone's craw about it a game not terribly long past. Was it you? I don't think it was you.

Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006

CCKeane posted:

I agree that Grandicap is scum.

Only in my heart Keane.

Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006

I have a distinct memory of fighting tooth and nail against the concept of making alignment calls off of people first posts and only their first posts.
I think it was Tom Tucker though, and I am also I am pretty sure I was scum that game.

That Toal post just gave me wicked deja vu and I was trying to place it.
I think I have, generically, but not the specific game.

Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006

Retro Futurist posted:

I am changing my list to I will vote anyone who doesn't praise my dog

I refuse to praise your cute pupper.

Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006

Voodoofly posted:

I have been trying to rescue a dog for the last few months. It’s drat near impossible. The shelters get a dog and have 50 applications that same day. I’m happy these dogs are getting rescued but holy hell I want a doggie.

So your pup is cute as hell and I’m jealous. Happy now RF!


##vote Grandi

That has been a bright spot in this pandemic, shelters are emptying out finding homes for their animals.

Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006

Hal Insandenza posted:

RF that dog is a literal monster

A road too far. ##vote Hal

Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006

Sandwolf posted:

Vig mason cop

Cena SiV Grandi


Vig: Cena because I've only played 1 game with him so I have no idea what to expect. Snip that thread early so I don't have to figure out a meta
Mason: SiV because I've played a bunch of games with her and don't recall being on either a scum team or in a masonry with her, should be fun to shoot the poo poo with her. I think we talked music at one point, maybe in jokephase of some game or another.
Cop: Grandi, something about his play has been sketch

Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006

Voodoofly posted:

So who are we throwing to the volcano gods today?

Grandi hates dogs but also hates people calling dogs monsters.
Hal called a dog a monster.
I'm sure some other people have done some things too but let's be real there are two of the scum sitting right in front of us.

I take offense to that, I do not hate dogs. I just don't think we should heap praise upon a dog who has not done a thing worthy of praise. Who am I to determine who is a good boy? Especially from just a picture.

Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006

Retro Futurist posted:



If you prefer traditionally cute dogs my partners dog also tolerates me

Grandicap posted:

I refuse to praise your cute pupper.

Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006

Voodoofly posted:

Deadline is in 3 hours. I’m not going to pretend I have strong feelings on anyone.

In that sense I’m fine with my vote on grandi. I sort of agree with CCK that his early posts were a little forced. The biggest “scumtell” I could point to is saying he would cop himself as his posts are off. I know it’s a joke but there is some slight truth to scum players pay way more attention to how their own posts appear.

This is pretty weak, even for day 1, but it’s plurality. I don’t like voting players I’ve never played with d1 which is Obama, IA and rhymes. Of the rest nothing really stands out. I’m also happy to vote Cena. I believe he spaced on the game but at the same time no content is worth a d1 vote for me. I might swap after kid drop off.


spacing in vienna posted:

well I can't exactly play vig mason cop with me in there.

Still voting you for being anti cat

Damned if you do damned if you don't apparently SiV. I kept myself in there and got called out, you considered leaving yourself out and got called out.

Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006

Sandwolf posted:

no, Grandi, you answered the question, SiV dodged it twice for no discernible reason

She was asking clarifiers, there wasn't a point in which she said she wasn't going to answer it.

Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006

I am declaring that I am in a silent masonry with SiV. We cannot talk out of thread and have no additional powers. But I am making this move in solidarity with her.

Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006

Voodoofly posted:

To be fair I’m voting you for your dog hating. The rest was just me trying to rationalize a vote.

Grandi: who do you want to vote? Because I’m really not sure I want to vote you and I’m having trouble determining if scum would let you sit at vote leader (with 2 votes I know) this close to deadline.

I didn't realize deadline was this afternoon. My vote is sitting on Hal because of his puppy monster comment, so that's not where I'd really like to go.
I'm probably leaning sandwolf right now because I think the push he is manifesting on SiV is coming from a scummy perspective.

Actually, his mason vig cop post is pretty suspect too

Sandwolf posted:

Vig mason cop

Cena SiV Grandi

Vig: Cena cuz if he’s scum I won’t catch it
Mason: Grandi cuz he was a mod in Cookfia and I enjoyed chatting with him a lot
Cop: SiV because I would like to know if she is town

No actual alignment calls, trying to make it appear as if he is driving content, but it is a white noise post. The vig and cop bit are supposed to be your scum leans, but both of them for Sandwolf are not because of suspicion but from a null read PoV.

And him calling out Keane for his cop breadcrumb too. Doesn't matter if Keane was doing a gag or not, drawing attention to it is anti-town.

##vote Sandwolf

Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006

Sandwolf posted:

dude she was very clearly not going to answer it until I made a stink about it, even then the response she just gave is mostly a joke response

No?
How is her response worse than yours?
How are the more than half the thread who didn't play your content game any worse? You are attempting to push a narrative that doesn't make sense.

Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006

CCKeane posted:

My vote is sitting on Hal. Anyway, time to vote Sandwolf.

I guess that was phrased poorly. My vote was sitting Hal as a joke vote, it wasn't an expressed desire to keep it there.

Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006

CCKeane posted:

Is it Sandwolf and Voodoofly? Hmmmmm.

I am starting to walk down this path too Keane.

Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006

Masonry Solidarity.

##vote OA

Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006

Sandwolf posted:

For future reference Cena’s vote just moved plurality for SiV to Obama with 5 mins to go

This feels like you know OA's going to flip town.

Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006

Sandwolf posted:

Was it “get 5 votes in <30 mins” bad?

I mean, it got 5 votes in <30 minutes. So yes? Demonstrably so.

Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006


Cena pulled the ball away like Lucy, not like Cathy.

Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006

Retro Futurist posted:

You're being real rolefishy this game

Because he is the scum.

Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006

Yes, it read like, I have to bus or it'll look bad for me, oh, maybe there is hope I can save him, oh nevermind gotta get back on to look good.

Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006

Ok, so looking back at the switch from SiV to OA, I'm trying to see the scum who wanted to save their scum buddy.

The intial votes looked like this. Before OA had any real traction. I'm going to clip the votes for people not SiV and OA until the final one to make it more consice as there is going to be a lot of votefinder quoting.

votefinder posted:

Votecount for Day 1

spacing in vienna (3): Sandwolf, Hal Insandenza, JOHN CENA
ObamaAkbar. (1): spacing in vienna, Toalpaz, spacing in vienna

Not Voting (4): CCKeane, Idle Amalgam, ObamaAkbar., Rhymes With Clue

With 12 alive, it's 7 votes to execute. The current deadline is February 11th, 2021 at 1:39 p.m. EST -- that's in about 33 minutes.

Then the OA post that sunk a thousand scumships happened, and there was a quick migration.

votefinder posted:

Votecount for Day 1

ObamaAkbar. (4): spacing in vienna, Toalpaz, spacing in vienna, Retro Futurist, spacing in vienna, JOHN CENA
spacing in vienna (3): Sandwolf, Hal Insandenza, JOHN CENA, ObamaAkbar., JOHN CENA

Not Voting (3): CCKeane, Idle Amalgam, Rhymes With Clue

With 12 alive, it's 7 votes to execute. The current deadline is February 11th, 2021 at 1:39 p.m. EST -- that's in about 6 minutes.

Toal rides their vote from early suspicion, RF leads the charge, SiV hops on (could be self-preservation, but that would require 2 scum on the block) and CENA jumps on too. Real momentum swing happening here.

votefinder posted:

Votecount for Day 1

spacing in vienna (4): Sandwolf, Hal Insandenza, JOHN CENA, ObamaAkbar., JOHN CENA, JOHN CENA
ObamaAkbar. (4): spacing in vienna, Toalpaz, spacing in vienna, Retro Futurist, spacing in vienna, JOHN CENA, Grandicap, JOHN CENA

Not Voting (3): CCKeane, Idle Amalgam, Rhymes With Clue

With 12 alive, it's 7 votes to execute. The current deadline is February 11th, 2021 at 1:39 p.m. EST -- that's in about 3 minutes.

This is where I hop on OA, and CENA hops off. CENA unvotes after I vote, making it a tie. Hoping to stall momentum is what I am positing. He jumped on initially thinking that he couldn't stop the train, but then the train stalls and he wonders if it is worth trying to derail it back to SiV's track (not sorry for the stretched analogy).

votefinder posted:

Votecount for Day 1

spacing in vienna (4): Sandwolf, Hal Insandenza, JOHN CENA, ObamaAkbar., JOHN CENA, JOHN CENA
ObamaAkbar. (4): spacing in vienna, Toalpaz, spacing in vienna, Retro Futurist, spacing in vienna, JOHN CENA, Grandicap, JOHN CENA
Not Voting (3): CCKeane, Idle Amalgam, Rhymes With Clue

With 12 alive, it's 7 votes to execute. The current deadline is February 11th, 2021 at 1:39 p.m. EST -- that's in about 1 minute.

With 1 minute left, with a tie vote, CENA doesn't know how plurality works with the ties, or asked and found out it worked such that the execution would have hit OA rather than SiV and switches at the last second back to OA.

votefinder posted:

Votecount for Day 1

ObamaAkbar. (5): spacing in vienna, Toalpaz, spacing in vienna, Retro Futurist, spacing in vienna, JOHN CENA, Grandicap, JOHN CENA, JOHN CENA
spacing in vienna (3): Sandwolf, Hal Insandenza, JOHN CENA, ObamaAkbar., JOHN CENA, JOHN CENA, JOHN CENA
JOHN CENA (1): Voodoofly
Sandwolf (0): spacing in vienna, Grandicap, spacing in vienna, Grandicap
Grandicap (0): Toalpaz, Toalpaz, Voodoofly, Retro Futurist, Voodoofly, Retro Futurist
Hal Insandenza (0): Grandicap, Grandicap

Not Voting (3): CCKeane, Idle Amalgam, Rhymes With Clue

With 12 alive, it's 7 votes to execute. The current deadline is February 11th, 2021 at 1:39 p.m. EST -- that's in about 0 minutes.

Final Votecount, not trimming anything from that one.
Sitting on SiV we have Hal and Sandwolf, but they have been on that vote the entire day at that point. There was no OA execution to derail from, so their votes wouldn't have been frantically trying to save their scum buddy. Not voting too, Keane was around and not voting, IA and Clue were not around.
The only one attempting to save Obama, known scum, was CENA, it was a weak effort because he didn't want to put himself too far out there, but that is what he was trying to do.

##vote John Cena

Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006

Here are CENA's posts around the execution.

JOHN CENA posted:

i think a tie would result in an NL

JOHN CENA posted:

##vote spacing in vienna

the only one so far who seems like impostre

This SiV vote happens at 12:55 EST, so before the OA swing started. (RF voted starting the ride at 1:24 EST). Just casually voting the vote leader with nebulous reasoning.

JOHN CENA posted:

i will ##vote obama for a third time

He votes Obama, with a tacked on joke, obviously leaving him room to jump off if he needs to.

JOHN CENA posted:

i agree but the post was bad to me.

feel weird about sivs interacting with grandi


hmm



##vote siv

thanks, obama :(

Which he immediately does. He swings back pressure to SiV, mentioning the interaction with me rather, which feels like a skimmed takeaway from the SiV-spicion.

JOHN CENA posted:

im 50/50 rn on it. siv feels actually scummy and obama feels accidentally scummy if that makes sense which isnt far from how i have read him in prior games

Halfheartedly backs it up, attempts to give Obama the out, tries to get focus back on SiV.

JOHN CENA posted:

##vote obama
avoiding tie

Then 1 minute before deadline switches for cred.

All of this happens in about a 45 minute timeframe. CENA is the scum.

Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006

People play powerroles poorly all the time Toal, he shouldn't have alluded to a thing if he wasn't willing to put out details, but that is not a scummy thing, it is a excited about night action bingo thing.

Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006

Maybe I'm misreading, but his defense of Keane when Toal voted him immediately made me think night action.

Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006

Rhymes With Clue posted:

I don't see this vote for CCK as protown.

##vote Toalpaz

This one.

Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006

My case isn't the strongest, but it is the fishiest behavior around a scum execution. That coupled with his behavior interacting with my case, and his dipping is a pretty strong indicator that he is scum.

Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006

It was plurality, the vote happened at t-1. It was tied before he moved. He probably would have been executed anyway, depending on CPigs tiebreakers.

Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006

It continues to be CENA.

##vote CENA

Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006

Yah, who wants to vote CENA with me. Everyone, right?

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Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006

Sandwolf posted:

do you target someone at night?

yeah this is a rolefish, maybe we should just turbo Cena

First part bad, second part good.
Kill CENA. It's where the scum is.

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