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CharlieFoxtrot
Mar 27, 2007

organize digital employees



Trickster should be able to parry melee attacks

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Kesper North
Nov 3, 2011

EMERGENCY POWER TO PARTY

CharlieFoxtrot posted:

Trickster should be able to parry melee attacks

That's even a thing?

How??

DarkDobe
Jul 11, 2008

Things are looking up...

It's not - BUT
You can 'counter' the stagger component of enemy attacks by meleeing into them - you still eat the damage, but it stops you getting knocked back, etc, and can be really handy for things like alpha/queen perphoro or the big fourlegged dudes 180-spin-stomp (i.e. the attacks they stagger you with for getting behind them)

CharlieFoxtrot
Mar 27, 2007

organize digital employees



Yeah I meant that I wish Tricksters could do that lol, the one hunt where you have to fight two Snapjaws is such a pain lol

Mebh
May 10, 2010


Kesper North posted:


Developers, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PLEASE LEARN TO DO SOMETHING ELSE

But PBAOEs are so easy to code =(

I'd recommend putting dodge on a mouse thumb button and basically kiting everything as a matter of course as pretty much a sneeze can kill you now.

moist turtleneck
Jul 17, 2003

Represent.



Dinosaur Gum
No clue if it's true but a reddit nerd is saying the unequipping and re equipping gear before every expedition makes the mitigation work

BexGu
Jan 9, 2004

This fucking day....
After playing around with the Expeditions some more I really wish they worked like the regular world level. Sure maybe keep it a option for extra rewards but I miss the loot pinata from killing Captains/Elites/etc like during monster hunts.

moist turtleneck
Jul 17, 2003

Represent.



Dinosaur Gum
Lol https://www.reddit.com/r/outriders/comments/n4xesz/outriders_damage_mitigation_issue_gather_thread


The issue at hand appears to be quite random in nature, affecting random players at seemingly random times.

This by no means insinuates that the damage mitigation issue does not exist. We fully acknowledge that there is an issue with damage mitigation for some players at this point in time.

ZeeBoi
Jan 17, 2001

that could explain why I was having such a miserable time when I last played

but also this game is poo poo

ZeeBoi fucked around with this message at 22:51 on May 4, 2021

Anime Store Adventure
May 6, 2009


Reverse No Man’s Sky is right, whoever said it. At launch I was so hyped and had tons of fun with my buddies and that slowly waned as they kept working on the game.

Kind of hoping by the time we get any content patches/dlc it might be in an OK state again but I’m not holding my breath.

RagnarokZ
May 14, 2004

Emperor of the Internet
Well, someone didn't learn that particular lesson that Anthem should have taught them.

Anyone tried doing high-level content with starter weapons yet?

Floppychop
Mar 30, 2012

Anthem just makes me sad because the core idea is great: Flying around in ironman style suits with cool abilities chasing down new and fancy guns.

But it faceplanted so loving hard that I'm sure no one else is going to make an attempt at anything resembling that style of gameplay.

Tenzarin
Jul 24, 2007
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Taco Defender

Sandwolf posted:

can someone recommend a pyro build for late game?

You shoot volcanos.

MH Knights
Aug 4, 2007

RagnarokZ posted:

Well, someone didn't learn that particular lesson that Anthem should have taught them.

Anyone tried doing high-level content with starter weapons yet?

I have a reoccurring thing where I will clear an area, go back to camp, then return to the area and the enemies haven't respawned but the loot chests and ore nodes have. Does that count as a loot cave? In the First City I start at the Hanging Tree and then go around to the bridge. Four free chests and ore nodes.

Scrub-Niggurath
Nov 27, 2007

Oh nooo the game that ICR created a thread for turned out to be mediocre and buggy and poorly designed who could’ve ever predicted this

Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

A most notable
coward, an infinite and endless liar, an hourly promise breaker, the owner of no one good quality.


https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4

Scrub-Niggurath posted:

Oh nooo the game that ICR created a thread for turned out to be mediocre and buggy and poorly designed who could’ve ever predicted this

Opting out of this clearly poo poo game was the most adult decision I have ever made.

DarkDobe
Jul 11, 2008

Things are looking up...

I'm going to go out on a limb that I did not predict the game getting _aggressively worse_ over time.

bamhand
Apr 15, 2010
I think the issue is the game could be fantastic with a few hundred minor tweaks. But PCF seems hellbent on not making anything fun. If it were a pure poo poo game people would move on and forget about it. Instead people are getting mad since they want to play the good game it could be, but instead the game is poo poo.

Like if damage numbers were just adjusted a little, drop rates improved a bit, a few weird systems updated, game would be amazing. All just adjusting numbers some, no big shake ups required.

dogstile
May 1, 2012

fucking clocks
how do they work?
Yeah this game actually owned at release. It's not even poo poo, its just worse than it was before. Wrong direction PCF, pull up!

Kunabomber
Oct 1, 2002


Pillbug
Honestly even though I paid $48 on PC I feel pretty good after finishing the campaign. I'll revisit it once they fix the damage bugs, etc. Or not.

BexGu
Jan 9, 2004

This fucking day....
I'm in the same boat. I had a fun time with the campaign and don't regret my purchase but removing a easy way of getting legendries solo was a real dick move.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

dogstile posted:

Yeah this game actually owned at release. It's not even poo poo, its just worse than it was before. Wrong direction PCF, pull up!

Nothing has actually changed from launch that was intentional, besides the Trickster nerfs. They just keep loving up.

FileNotFound
Jul 17, 2005


Aphrodite posted:

Nothing has actually changed from launch that was intentional, besides the Trickster nerfs. They just keep loving up.

Nah, they added armor bugs now.

But not much else. I still crash regularly in expeditions and at this point lost all remaining interest in the game.

I expect that by the time they give out the legendary for putting up with the rough release, most people won't be around to claim them....

bamhand
Apr 15, 2010
Legendary is just going to be an Aerie Master anyways.

From what I read, the armor bugs have always been there. Just the golem bug cancelled it out.

Darke GBF
Dec 30, 2006

The cold never bothered me anyway~
I haven't played the game for like three weeks cause my character bugged out and cant be played anymore. At a $48 entry fee I feel like I got my money's worth anyway, but only because I was apparently so hungry for a new Mass Effect game that I was able to excuse the buggiest release since Fallout 76. I don't know if I'll play it when they eventually fix the whole "cant play the character I spent 31 hours on" thing. Maybe.

Mebh
May 10, 2010


RagnarokZ posted:

Well, someone didn't learn that particular lesson that Anthem should have taught them.

Anyone tried doing high-level content with starter weapons yet?

Actually one of the best weapons in the game is one of the level 10 pre order rifles... Sooo

fast cars loose anus
Mar 2, 2007

Pillbug

Scrub-Niggurath posted:

Oh nooo the game that ICR created a thread for turned out to be mediocre and buggy and poorly designed who could’ve ever predicted this

dogstile posted:

Yeah this game actually owned at release. It's not even poo poo, its just worse than it was before. Wrong direction PCF, pull up!

Yeah make no mistake I put 100 hours into this and got way more than my money's worth but it could have been so much more

FileNotFound
Jul 17, 2005


fast cars loose anus posted:

Yeah make no mistake I put 100 hours into this and got way more than my money's worth but it could have been so much more

"Outriders: It could have been so much more"

Thread title right there.

RagnarokZ
May 14, 2004

Emperor of the Internet

Mebh posted:

Actually one of the best weapons in the game is one of the level 10 pre order rifles... Sooo

I was referring to Anthem's completely broken stats system, where the points didn't matter at all. Meow.

UnknownMercenary
Nov 1, 2011

I LIKE IT
WAY WAY TOO LOUD


Mebh posted:

Actually one of the best weapons in the game is one of the level 10 pre order rifles... Sooo

Funnily enough, the same set of cursed Friday patches that broke like a dozen things also fixed it so this is no longer the case. The pre-order level 10 rifle still has a good set of attribute rolls, but you can no longer change its variant to reroll the firepower stat.

If anyone actually bothered to do this pre-patch then they still have their godroll tactical AR, if the game doesn't just straight up delete it when it fails to load the preorder DLC properly.

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





fast cars loose anus posted:

Yeah make no mistake I put 100 hours into this and got way more than my money's worth but it could have been so much more

I've only got 31 hours in and haven't even finished the storyline as I got distracted by life, but I'm sure I'll come back to it and finish, and I feel like 30+ hours is still a reasonable value when I compare it to almost any other entertainment cost per hour these days.

Moongrave
Jun 19, 2004

Finally Living Rent Free

Rinkles
Oct 24, 2010

What I'm getting at is...
Do you feel the same way?
Lot of sloppy post release support lately. I assume it's not unrelated to covid.

Mebh
May 10, 2010


Nah its just ungodly expensive and requires the publisher to be not an awful dick (or be self published)

Lots of companies who've never done live service are jumping into it as the next big thing without any experience, learnings or history from the last 30 years of MMOs.

Moongrave
Jun 19, 2004

Finally Living Rent Free
reminder outriders put influencers above the QA team in their credits

Mailer
Nov 4, 2009

Have you accepted The Void as your lord and savior?

Oof. Thanks for saving me the price of a new PS5 game, I guess.

Mebh posted:

Lots of companies who've never done live service are jumping into it as the next big thing without any experience, learnings or history from the last 30 years of MMOs.

lol video game people are so entitled. you can't expect to play a game release day week month quarter. all games have these problems.

RatHat
Dec 31, 2007

A tiny behatted rat👒🐀!

Mailer posted:

Oof. Thanks for saving me the price of a new PS5 game, I guess.

It was a bug with a single patch that was up for a few hours. And it’s a singleplayer roguelike, not a co-op looter shooter.

RatHat fucked around with this message at 02:14 on May 6, 2021

Anime Store Adventure
May 6, 2009


They allege that nothing dramatically changed in the last patch re: damage and survivability but either it’s bugged worse than they’re letting on or they literally made the high end content twice as hard. It seems like my friend and I are doing 1.5x the damage combined over the length of an expedition but where we used to clear several ‘easy’ ones without issue on CT15/Gold, now we’re playing for completions at best for most.

I feel like I’m already at a point where I’m squeezing tiny percentages out of my build and I’m not waiting for a miracle legendary to drop and we can’t even take down the Eye of the Storm boss... We basically lose the minute he gets his captain adds because of their all-range lock on combo.

Games broke.

Moongrave
Jun 19, 2004

Finally Living Rent Free

Mailer posted:

Oof. Thanks for saving me the price of a new PS5 game, I guess.


lol video game people are so entitled. you can't expect to play a game release day week month quarter. all games have these problems.

Don’t spend $70 usd on a video game ever

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Mebh
May 10, 2010


Mailer posted:

Oof. Thanks for saving me the price of a new PS5 game, I guess.


lol video game people are so entitled. you can't expect to play a game release day week month quarter. all games have these problems.

I work in the games industry as a specialist in live ops games and have been for 16 years. Trust me, most people have no loving clue what they're doing, especially in the console space. PC is an afterthought and they usually hire someone like me 6 months before launch when they realise how hosed they are.

Not saying that's what happened here but no, all games do not have these problems. It requires years of forward planning and a huge commitment to a continual burn rate after launch which most publishers won't go for as the returns just aren't as easily predictable when you're looking at slowing a tail. (the drop in sales revenue after launch spike)

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