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Wakko
Jun 9, 2002
Faboo!

chill thread to document the rise of the american fourth reich over the 2020s

good stuff to lmao about ITT: senile conservative government unable to do FDR-style reformism, late stage capitalism scooping out the last bits of wealth from the corpse of the proletariat, emboldened white nationalist demagogues, creeping security infrastructure that will be repurposed later, and leftist infighting/incrementalism/anything that isn't militant organizations

https://twitter.com/USATODAY/status/1360715132943405059
https://twitter.com/AP/status/1361337236042702854
https://twitter.com/macfarlanenews/status/1354871296664993795
https://twitter.com/tbh4justice/status/1361373807030624257
https://twitter.com/DWUhlfelderLaw/status/1354952521530413068
https://twitter.com/econhardship/status/1358775093913149442
https://twitter.com/khonnews/status/1358186473254776834

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Wakko
Jun 9, 2002
Faboo!

The Capitol Rioters Aren’t Like Other Extremists

quote:

What’s clear is that the Capitol riot revealed a new force in American politics—not merely a mix of right-wing organizations, but a broader mass political movement that has violence at its core and draws strength even from places where Trump supporters are in the minority.

Wheeee
Mar 11, 2001

When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.



nah what's coming is going to be more stable and long-lived than the old style fascisms

we getting feudalism 2.0

How are u
May 19, 2005

Halloween is a critical cornerstone of our great country. Stay Spooky

Where's the fourth reich stuff?

commielingus
Jan 23, 2021

by Athanatos


Wheeee posted:

nah what's coming is going to be more stable and long-lived than the old style fascisms

we getting feudalism 2.0

It’s going to resemble the free market fascism of Pinochet more than anything else.

E; Basically what we have now, only more blatant with each passing year:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hUfidC5aNw

commielingus has issued a correction as of 20:02 on Feb 16, 2021

a few DRUNK BONERS
Mar 25, 2016



Wheeee posted:

nah what's coming is going to be more stable and long-lived than the old style fascisms

we getting feudalism 2.0

Why do you think there will be any stability. Climate change baby.

Wakko
Jun 9, 2002
Faboo!

a few DRUNK BONERS posted:

Why do you think there will be any stability. Climate change baby.

ya i don't want to get too intersectional with the anthropocene ITT but the chapo dude summed it up well when it became clear we'd made the choice between socialism and barbarism

quote:

"Fascism arises because of the collapse of institutional legitimacy of liberal institutions. That's how we got loving Trump, and that's how we are going to get what's coming next after him that's going to be even worse. Because, if you think there's not going to be more economic and ecological catastrophe in the future, that liberalism is wholly unsuited to loving deal with, and that failure is not going to lead to fascism filling that loving hole, you've got another thing coming.

And that's what these guys are, these guys that marched in Charlottesville. These are the people who are aware of the unspoken premise of this sort of zombie neoliberalism we are living in, which is that we are coming at a point where there is going to be ecological catastrophe, and it's going to either require mass redistribution of the ill-gotten gains of the first world, or genocide.

And these are the first people who have basically said, if that's the choice, I choose genocide. And they are getting everybody else ready intellectually and emotionally for why that's going to be okay when it happens. Why they’re not really people. When we’re putting all this money into more loving walls, and drones, and bombs, and guns to keep em away, so that we can watch them die with clear consciences, it's going to be because we have been loaded with the ideology that these guys are now starting to express publicly."

World War Mammories
Aug 25, 2006

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How are u posted:

Where's the fourth reich stuff?

turn off your monitor

frankenfreak
Feb 16, 2007

I SCORED 85% ON A QUIZ ABOUT MONDAY NIGHT RAW AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS LOUSY TEXT

#bastionboogerbrigade

Considering his brain is mush and he is the president, Biden is more Hindenburg than anything.

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012



huh so Trump was Ludendorff the entire time

Wakko
Jun 9, 2002
Faboo!

https://twitter.com/NeverAgainActn/status/1362891708703387650

Flavius Aetass
Mar 30, 2011


how is this different from the biden thread?

Wakko
Jun 9, 2002
Faboo!

biden thread is a chat thread re: joe never delivering those 2000 bux or watevs. this is a companion to the balk thread for a specific historical outcome. we can change the title and keep rollin when president hawley or whoevs gets sworn in.

Archduke Frantz Fanon
Sep 7, 2004



Maximo Roboto posted:

huh so Trump was Ludendorff the entire time

"You know these politicians, they dont respect the common solder. A soldier came up to me the other day. Bug guy. Tough guy. Giant moustace but i guess cant all be perfect. He came to me, tears in his eyes. Big guy, crying like that. He said Chancellor Trump, youre my favorite chancellor. Even better than bismark. But these politicians, they betrayed us at Versailles. I said like a knife in the back? And he was amazed that i came up with that. Knife in the back. no one thought of that before i said it."

twoday
May 4, 2005



neither united, nor states, nor american

eSports Chaebol
Feb 22, 2005

Yeah, actually, gamers in the house forever,

Wheeee posted:

nah what's coming is going to be more stable and long-lived than the old style fascisms

we getting feudalism 2.0

while feudalism of course implies that the lords not only enjoy more privilege, but are in fact morally superior and have a higher unequal status in society compared to peasants...

...it also has some degree of reciprocal obligation implied, where lords have a non-zero amount of responsibility for the well-being of their lessers

this will not fly in america

Wakko
Jun 9, 2002
Faboo!

https://twitter.com/davis_hammet/status/1365407930724610055
https://twitter.com/jaredlholt/status/1365505067953045505
https://twitter.com/taragolshan/status/1365113446031896576

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012




Hawley could be blustering and dog-whistling here but new nationalism could just be a reference to this because he's a Teddy Roosevelt dork

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Nationalism_(Theodore_Roosevelt)

quote:

In the socioeconomic sphere the platform called for

A National Health Service to include all existing government medical agencies
Social insurance, to provide for the elderly, the unemployed, and the disabled.
Limited injunctions in strikes.
A minimum wage law for women.
An eight-hour workday.
A federal securities commission.
Farm relief.
Workers' compensation for work-related injuries.
An inheritance tax.
A Constitutional amendment to allow a Federal income tax.

okay, maybe not

Venomous
Nov 7, 2011







counterpoint: he wants all that, but only for white cishets

Wakko
Jun 9, 2002
Faboo!

"They never saw the sun": Lawyers describe overcrowded conditions for children in Border Patrol custody

quote:

"Some of the boys said that conditions were so overcrowded that they had to take turns sleeping on the floor," Desai added, citing interviews with nearly a dozen unaccompanied migrant children held at the Customs and Border Protection (CBP) holding facility in Donna, Texas.

On March 2, the Donna complex was holding more than 1,800 people — 729% of its pandemic-era capacity, which is designed for 250 migrants, according to an internal CBP document reviewed by CBS News...

...In an interview with Univision's Jorge Ramos, Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas said he saw "too many children" when he visited the Donna facility earlier this month. But he applauded Border Patrol agents for their "heroism," saying the children were well taken care of.

Victory Position
Mar 15, 2004







but I've been calling it after dinner, not fourthmeal

Wakko
Jun 9, 2002
Faboo!

'America First' Caucus, Compared to KKK, Ended by Greene One Day After Proposal Shared Online

quote:

House Republicans' 'America First' caucus was ended by Georgia GOP Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene on Saturday, just one day after its policy proposal was first shared online.

Greene, alongside Republican Representative Paul Gosar of Arizona, confirmed the co-creation of the America First Caucus on Friday. Later that day, a leaked America First caucus proposal shared by Punchbowl News drew widespread criticism and outrage.

The group's seven-page policy document calls for a "common respect for uniquely Anglo-Saxon political traditions" and an architectural style that "befits the progeny of European architecture."

this was the first trial balloon in the modern era for an explicitly fascist faction of the united states house. while blowback came swiftly, the contrast with the american politics of even a decade ago is sharp.

Filthy Hans
Jun 27, 2008



Victory Position posted:

but I've been calling it after dinner, not fourthmeal

everybody else just calls it cum

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

It's always 2am somewhere.



Please, the correct term is Kindererziehungslager and they are operated by the health department, Lebensborn e.V. not the SS directly!

Stop spreading Russian propaganda!

Wakko
Jun 9, 2002
Faboo!

early in 2021, while the future Sturmabteilung was doing this:

Top Oath Keeper Says Active-Duty Cops Are Training Militia Members for Civil War

quote:

Jim Arroyo, spoke openly about the close involvement of police officers. “Our guys are very experienced,” said Arroyo. “We have active-duty law enforcement in our organization that are helping to train us. We can blend in with our law enforcement and in fact, in a lot of cases, our training is much more advanced because of our military backgrounds.” Arroyo’s statement was backed up by Javed Ali, an ex-National Security Council senior director and FBI counterterrorism official, who said the Oath Keepers are a “unique and challenging” threat to the U.S. because a “large percentage have tactical training and operational experience in either the military or law enforcement.

prominent and populous leftist organizations were doing this:

https://twitter.com/itzyjerry/status/1382543441079328769

Pentecoastal Elites
Feb 27, 2007



yeah we're so utterly hosed lmao
Bernie was our last chance for an offramp but even he was a mirage, as it turns out.
try to build structures of support in your communities, support the inevitable left movement (the actual movement, not whatever is going on in DSA and on twitter) when it does finally arise from amazon warehouses and big box retailers, and pray the interregnum isn't long and there's still some small semblance of an ecosphere left after this is all over.

The good news (to me, at least) is that no one posting here will live to see if ultimately socialism prevails or we end up with the mutual destruction of the contending classes so our work doesn't change one bit.

Wakko
Jun 9, 2002
Faboo!

Fascist Proud Boys threaten incumbents in bid to take over Nevada Republican Party

quote:

On Monday [05/24/21], Nevada’s Clark County Republican Party announced that a previously scheduled Tuesday meeting had to be cancelled due to threats by Proud Boy militia members against elected officials. Clark County, which includes Las Vegas, is home to some 2.2 million people, who comprise more than two-thirds of the state’s population.

It appears that the Proud Boys, with backing from the sections of the state party, were attempting to replace the party leadership as part of the internecine war within the Republican Party nationally between outright fascists and more traditional reactionaries.

TUCKER CARLSON RATCHETS UP THE “WHITE RAGE” ON FOX NEWS

quote:

On Thursday night, Carlson took his racial paranoia to its inevitable end point by predicting that America is heading for an all-out race war. After mockingly decrying criticism against “white rage”—a reference to General Mark Milley’s thoughtful congressional testimony that has been derided by the right—Carlson then invoked the Rwandan genocide by asking his viewers, “The question is, and this is the question that we should be meditating on day in and day out, is how do we get out of this vortex, this cycle, before it’s too late? How do we save this country before we become Rwanda?” Given that Carlson discussing was flanked by an onscreen graphic that read “ANTI-WHITE MANIA” during the segment, his choice reference to the East African genocide—which led to the deaths of as many as 800,000 people, mostly of a minority ethnic group—was clearly an implied way of warning his audience that the teaching about systemic racism could result in a similar slaughter of white Americans.

nothing really dramatic here in mid-2021 in comparison with what will come later. carlson is obviously one of the more calculating figures in the american white supremacy media sphere. if he thinks it's safe to dial up the heat it's a reasonable sign the environment will support it.

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.


I proclaim the Holy American Empire, with the electors being California, Florida, Iowa, New York, as well as the Arch-Bishopric of Boston, Philadelphia and Detroit.

Wakko
Jun 9, 2002
Faboo!

normal stuff goin on as we approach the start of Fall

Millions in U.S. lose jobless benefits as federal aid expires, thrusting families and economy onto uncertain path

The Supreme Court Will Allow Evictions To Resume. It Could Affect Millions Of Tenants

Joe Manchin voted to advance the $3.5 trillion budget bill — now he says Democrats should press pause

Biden administration reviving Trump-era border policy it says led to "inhumane" conditions

Officials face 'a sustained campaign of intimidation' from the far-right

Fascist militias threaten officials, force shutdown of schools in Washington state

quote:

Three Vancouver, Washington public schools were put into lockdown this past Friday after roughly 50 Proud Boy militia members and anti-mask protesters attempted to enter Skyview High School with a maskless student, in violation of public health guidelines. In addition to Skyview High School, Alki Middle School and Chinook Elementary were placed on high alert and locked down due to the fascist threat. Video recordings showed Proud Boys chanting “USA” while waving American flags and wearing their trademark yellow and black shirts, with the group’s motto “F--k Antifa” displayed on their chests. Despite members of the group being recorded massing on school grounds, in breach of the law, local police apparently made no attempt to disrupt the fascist rally and appeared to look on approvingly. As of this writing, no arrests have been reported and no charges have been filed...

The very next day, a group of Proud Boys rallied approximately 100 miles north, in Olympia, Washington, in opposition to COVID-19 public health restrictions. The group attacked counter-demonstrators and journalists, assaulting independent journalist Alissa Azar. In a disturbing social media clip, Azar can be heard screaming as Proud Boys spray her with bear mace and shove her to the ground.

Following the assault on Azar, Proud Boy brawler Tusitala “Tiny” Toese was reportedly shot in the leg. Olympia police say they are investigating the shooting of Toese. No arrests have been made as of this writing.

In another assault on journalists carried out by far-right elements, on August 28 in Traverse City, Michigan, Record-Eagle reporter Brendan Quealy was attacked by anti-vaccine and anti-mask protesters while covering their rally at a public park. Quealy told police that two men shoved and pushed him before punching him in the face for recording audio at the rally. The attack is still being “investigated” by the Grand Traverse County Sheriff’s Office.

The hands-off approach taken by local police towards the violent militia groups and their supporters mirrors the lax treatment Proud Boys members encountered when confronted by US Capitol Police during the January 6 attack on the Capitol. The assault, spearheaded by Proud Boys militia members, was aimed at blocking congressional certification of the Electoral College vote and officially recognizing Joe Biden as the president-elect.

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001


the fascist symbol and secret number stuff never makes any sense to me, nodding and winking to the few thousand people who might get it isnt't doing anything compared to the outrage and attention it brings by people fretting on twitter, and it doesn't trigger people's fascist switch

Wakko
Jun 9, 2002
Faboo!

having a shibboleth to recognize other members of your tribe is good for building a sense of community and when twitterati freak out it helps enforce the sense of a powerful and omnipresent enemy that the fascists must strive to defeat

outside of the extremely online set, very few people even recognize what a 1488 patch means

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001


sorry, I mean to say I know why some dumbass intern sneaks it in at the behest (or not) of someone further up the food chain but I don't know why people give a poo poo about it as if it's an omen of things to come

Wakko
Jun 9, 2002
Faboo!

oh, that's because it's an omen of things to come. there are fascists sitting in congress who saw the floorplan and gave it a wink and nod.

their numbers will only swell as a tide of climate and economic refugees flood out from ever-expanding zones of involuntary degrowth while a conservative majority, facing humiliation amidst a collapsing empire, demands a solution.

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Vomik
Jul 29, 2003

This post is dedicated to the brave Mujahideen fighters of Afghanistan

Wakko posted:

prominent and populous leftist organizations

citation needed

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