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There are not traditional social links but each character has a unique mini-questline that gets you a special item from them before the final dungeon. They're pretty hard to miss though.
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Oh, since it's easily overlooked: This *does* have a NG+ including new bosses and a *much* higher difficulty (Joker can die in about 2 hits in the tutorial battle) but to get to it you need to defeat all of the late-game optional bosses. Just finishing the game isn't enough
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Feb 21, 2021 03:50
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Mechafunkzilla posted:In the third dungeon and dropping this down to easy, bosses and minibosses are such loving health sponges and it's getting tedious. So the trick here is not to approach combat like you would a Musou game. Treat it exactly like a persona game. Throw on buffs and spam the gently caress out of spells the enemy is weak to or occasionally use gimmicks in the environment. For physical stuff use Charge and your best critical attacks. Your regular attacks can be okay in certain situations but they're not for regular use. Instead you need to figure out which ones are really good for the specific mechanics. Some characters have attacks that auto-give buffs or have special effects and those are most useful for saving SP. That said some, like Haru's Psy-Tornado, are still very very good to use in regular situations. For Joker you need to experiment because every Persona he gets has different gimmicks and some of those gimmicks can even evolve if they learn higher-tier skills. There's at least one Persona (Black Frost IIRC) who gives Concentrate from a regular combo which is a hilarious combo with anything. So what do you do about limited SP? Cook. You will want to grab as many ingedients as you can at any time because you'll quickly get recipes that give you tremendous amounts of SP back in combat. Rather than conserving items it's best to come in with a team that hopefully can give the enemy's weaknesses or do crits and then spam them fuckin' spells. 'Swap between characters, use up every SP you can because giving 80 SP back to your party with a single item use goes a long way. Once you start playing this way bosses start to melt. When I was doing late-game boss refights it was rare for them to take more than a minute or so if I went in prepared. You really have to approach combat like Persona, not Warriors, and not doing so lead to a lot of my early game frustration Ibram Gaunt posted:The more I play the less it's grabbing me. Unless this changes after the first Palace I'm not a huge fan of how small each fight is so nothing feels very satisfying. Fights get larger and there are some pretty huge fights later on but by and large the game is more like Tales of (x) then Musou.
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Feb 21, 2021 23:46
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YoshiOfYellow posted:Out of curiosity who is everyone's favorite character to pilot so far? I'm still bad with him but I still thoroughly enjoy Yusuke finally being able to thrive as a weeb samurai now that he's not in a turn-based RPG. The counters are immensely satisfying on the rare occasions I land them. Having a free Masukukaja attached to one of his combos is rad too. Also enjoy Ann for her ultra wide combos and her Enchant does stupid poo poo to anything fire weak. My favorites are Haru, Joker and Wolf. The last is an utter fuckin' delight.
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Feb 22, 2021 00:50
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Stroth posted:So am I the only one who’s noticed that Sophia buys ninety percent of Ann’s weapons from a sex shop? There are not exactly a lot of places to buy whips via the internet.
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Feb 22, 2021 01:34
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CandyCrazy posted:Speaking of noticing stuff about weapons, most of the starting weapons' descriptions say they "manifested from an awakened power". The exceptions? Morgana, Sophie, and Haru, which I choose to interpret as her just carrying an axe around in the real world, even independent of her being a Phantom Thief. There will be a rash of police murders where they are beheaded by an axe and nobody can figure out who did it.
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Feb 22, 2021 03:41
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Combos are important to the game but they are important because of what their basic effects are, which becomes a lot more relevant as you level up characters. Haru's tornado (as mentioned above) is absolutely fantastic as a default Psy move as long as you've got some levels in her and her final learned combat skill gives her infinite ammo for her triangle attack which is fuckin' busted. Ryuji can do fantastic melee damage but he needs to power up a bit to make it worthwhile and it should be in conjunction with his actual spells. This is most critical for Joker who has a unique set of skills for every Persona in the game. Which is actually pretty cool because it means otherwise forgettable Persona can have distinct uses. All the spells used by combos are weaker than their regular versions but that doesn't stop a buff or heal from being useful.
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Feb 23, 2021 00:26
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Infinity Gaia posted:Unfortunately it seems like Japan loves that trope far too much. It's in absolutely loving everything, either played straight or subverted in some way. I'm usually against talking broadly about Japan when it comes to stuff that happens in media, but this genuinely seems to be a much beloved trope over there. I mean "guys peeping on/being mistaken for peeping on girls" is not exclusively a Japanese source of comedy. It still shows up pretty regularly in western media too. Frigging Disney shows have those jokes. It has started to fade away as people have realize how creepy it is but "girl's locker room" is as is the 'accidentally walking in on bathing" jokes. It's shown up in Dishonored, Wonder Woman, Game of Thrones, a bunch of recent stuff.
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Feb 24, 2021 02:39
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ApplesandOranges posted:Also one thing that is almost a shame is that the game doesn't always telegraph when an environmental item is of limited use. This is particularly noticeable for the first and third dungeon bosses when you're expected to use an environmental item to disrupt the boss, but you only have so many uses of them and if you're just going 'oh hey, A prompt or follow-up, let's go' then you run out very quickly. You can also interrupt with elemental spells they are weak to, so if you use them up you can just spam your hardcast version to get by, even on their hard and extra hard modes.
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Feb 25, 2021 05:42
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Tae posted:Is there any real reason to keep the aoe versions of spells, since the basic versions already have a big cast and All-out attack is more common to trigger? It can be useful in some niche situations but honestly nah.
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Feb 25, 2021 05:47
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Zenkichi is probably one of my favorite Persona characters period but I admit a good chunk of that is some loving excellent voice acting.
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Feb 26, 2021 01:07
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YoshiOfYellow posted:Game needs to calm the hell down with the requests. Just when I've gotten caught up I progress a day and 8 more pop up. Please stop I'm dying. Lavenza will not accept no for an answer.
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Feb 26, 2021 03:02
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fadam posted:I'm pretty far into the game and I still don't really understand how technicals work lol If an enemy is afflicted with a status effect certain spell elements will do Technical damage. Burn, Shock and Freeze are Nuclear (Shock and Freeze also gun/phys), every other status effect is Psy except Dizzy and Sleep which just trigger on whatever hits first. Psy and Nuclear don't have qutie as much that is weak to them but if you toss status effects on enemies then they'll start dishing out hilarious amounts of damage. Edit: I think Burn also works on Wind but I can't remember if that is in Strikers or just P5 classic. Pretty sure it is in Strikers though.
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Feb 26, 2021 06:04
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TheLoser posted:I don't get combat. You can use items liberally and the game expects you to do so. Pretty soon you get the ability to cook which effectively gives you as many SP restoring items as you want.
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Feb 27, 2021 08:44
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Arist posted:Worth noting that apparently you need to get your Bond level to 99 to max out everything (and people are ending the game with it in the 50s, so you might wanna be careful how you spend them). Keep in mind though that this includes the bunch of SP-sink "raise your stats slightly" skills which you don't really need to touch before the hardest mode. If you don't really touch those you'll have enough for everything important.
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Feb 28, 2021 03:33
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Drakenel posted:Those look good, thanks Arist. To unlock NG+ you need to finish the optional boss requests first.
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Mar 1, 2021 03:49
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Nameless Pete posted:Sophia can manage to wrangle the one gold bar deliveryman who happens to be walking by the cafe at that particular moment but she won't let me buy onions in bulk. There is way less demand for gold bars than onions.
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Mar 5, 2021 22:58
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Nameless Pete posted:Also it makes narrative sense for all your levels to reset and you can just say nobody held onto their old weapons, but I kinda wanna know how a 17-year-old spent the 10 million yen(~100k USD) I left him with at the end of Royal in just a few months. Honestly my assumption is that once everything was settled the Phantom Thieves probably donated it to some cause or another because at the end of the day they didn't get into this poo poo to get rich which is one of their defining traits.
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Mar 6, 2021 07:58
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MechaX posted:Doing the post 3rd dungeon scenes now and this is absolutely amazing, from Zenkichi essentially being Dojima if Nanako loving dunked on him repeatedly, to Akane's room reveal, to some pretty amazing dialogue from the "We are the Phantom Thieves." blunt answer to "Fist of the Phantom Channel" to Fukaba simultaneously making a Titanic and Whitney Houston joke. It benefits a lot from the fact that it is a game almost exclusively about the already-together cast on a road trip so the focus is on them almost exclusively.
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Mar 7, 2021 02:28
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Ryuji and Zenkichi are by far the standouts but god do they rule every scene they are in in the English version.
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Mar 12, 2021 01:44
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To be honest it's a huge boon to the cast to A) Already be together and B) Not be obligated to be up all on Joker's business.
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Twelve by Pies posted:I've been having more of a blast with the combat system since I realized that C4 has your Persona use a skill of its chosen element. C6 sometimes does, but it's not consistent. Raja Naga uses Maziodyne as its C6 which is great for example, but Ganesha uses Charge instead of a nuke skill. Learning that has helped me conserve my SP much better since I can bust out a Ziodyne with Raja Naga on enemy Ganeshas instead of casting it. It depends on the situation. Usually what happens is that someone awakens to their Persona (usually through divine intervention or something close to it) and from there poo poo kind of goes downhill. In the case of Persona 5 while the Metaverse was a functioning theory beforehand it really started to get put into play when Goro Akechi got the same "Wild Card" power as the protagonist. He teamed up with a politician (who was his secret dad). He was the only other Persona-user besides the protagonist squad. None of the characters could work alongside their shadows but one influenced the other. However that was part of why the Phantom Thieves were so scary. If they went after you there wasn't anything you could do to stop them except hope they failed. You could try to beef up your mental defenses but even knowing they are coming *and* being aware of the Metaverse isn't enough. Basically for all the Persona games the supernatural poo poo begins with either "scientists were loving around" or "A God decided to gently caress around" or usually both.
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ApplesandOranges posted:You can always hold it at the skill select screen and it'll pause the fight, so you can listen to things. Fair. I was just going off the "Persona 5 Strikers goes out of its way to spoil every plot point it can" mindset.
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