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https://twitter.com/ReneePaquette/status/1362235731171631104?s=20 Death matches aren't for everyone, this thread is likely to be between "Not Safe for Work" and "Not Safe for Life" With Big Bicep Tony bringing the Exploding Barbedwired Deathmatch stipulation to US mainstream Wrestling for the first time in a long time, I wanted to make a thread for both old fans and the morbidly curious new ones who want to know exactly what they're in for in the upcoming Revolution PPV. Probably the most famous of all time was the culmination of the legendary Cactus Jack vs Terry Funk in the finals of the IWA King of the Death Match from 1995. In terms of explosions, this match was a little of a wet fart. I remember being in middle school at my friend's house and we were downloading "Hardcore Matches" off the old filesharing websites amongst other things like the Mass Transit Incident and "Owen Hart Fall" (Which was actually just New Jack throwing Vic Grimes off a scaffolding). I was still very squeamish at the time and averted my eyes through most of those, but the Foley/Funk match really captivated me, all the way until the end. When I just started laughing until I couldn't breathe. Here's the match narrated by Mick Foley: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFI3gG_POCk It was a while longer before I actually started getting into Deathmatch Wrestling. After the success of ECW's One Night Stand in 2005, I started to get more curious and would look up more matches from FMW. I remember finding music video tributes to Hayabusa and seeing those insane exploding cage matches from the promotion. These were a MUCH bigger spectacle, because it was like watching a steel cage match wrapped in barbed wire, where every side of the cage would explode on contact, and when the timer was up, the WHOLE ring would light up. The explosions weren't that intense, they used smoke to make it look like the apocalypse https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dG9dKnknv8k After binging through Hayabusa and Onita's backlog, I started to find some of the more brutal women's matches from FMW. I fell in love with Megumi Kudo, and thought it was horrifying to watch this small, attractive woman who dresses like an idol competing against monsters like Shark Tsuchiya and Aja Kong in such brutal matches. Even in Kudo's commentary, she's a very quiet, soft-spoken woman which completely contrasts the amount of pain and punishment she would go through in matches. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mkeOiaDtCk Although the most VIOLENT exploding barbed wire match I've ever seen is the FMW Electrified Pool match. Not neccesarily because of the explosions, but because it looked like Pogo was really digging inches deep into people with his signature sickle weapon. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57y1EhF5D5w&t=5940s Probably the last biggest/famous exploding barbed wire death match was between Onita and Chono. Both guys had some of the best entrances in wrestling history in this single match and the crowd was huge and WILD for the whole event. https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6ajas8 After the mid-late 2000's the exploding death matches slowed down a lot. There were some crazy ones in the 666 Promotion and some really sad ones in CZW (I think they just hooked car batteries up to a normal steel cage) The Exploding Bat Death Match has caught on against in the last 5 years, with Io Shirai competing in one just before signing to the WWE in STARDOM, and DDT have done a couple (Albeit mostly comedy-based) Anyone who's better at googling than I am, try and lookup the following: *The pathetic CZW Car Battery cage match *Sanshiro Takagi in an exploding barbed wire death match that was somehow a comedy match Both men forgot that it was a death match, and tried to run off the "ropes" and blew themselves up *Some of the insane 666 Promotion firework scaffolding matches Also, we'll use this as a catch-all Deathmatch thread, since it's a pretty unique style that not everyone's going to be into. Although the exploding deathmatches are mostly smoke and mirrors and aren't as dangerous as you think, there's a lot of really gruesome deathmatch wrestling out there. So PYF death matches. Please do not post actual wrestling deaths or career ending injuries in this thread, thanks. RealFoxy fucked around with this message at 06:53 on Feb 19, 2021 |
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Veny's great but there's another Women's Tournament death-matcher: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0-JuFMupw0 Deathmatching at 50+ takes a lot of guts (even if it's mainly smoke and mirrors and less harmful than flat bumps)
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Here's the famous Masashi Takeda/Isami Kodaka match from Big Japan a few years ago, maybe the best death match of the 2010s https://www.bilibili.com/video/av32856514/ A lot of Takeda's best stuff is pretty much just wrestling matches that happen to have light tubes or whatever, so even if you're squeamish about blood I think you'll get a lot out of watching him. Benne fucked around with this message at 08:58 on Feb 19, 2021 |
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I'm to this day not really sure how Pogo faked jamming a sickle into someone's gut and drawing blood. So I assume he just didn't and wrestlers are crazy
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My Deathmatch story is I once got to shake the bloodstained hand of Jun Kasai after a Flourescent Light Tube match at Korakuen Hall. I also pocketed a bit of the broken table that he had thrown himself through from a great height. Which was not the finisher to that match. There are reasons the man is missing teeth and is covered in scars. That was my first exposure to Jun Kasai, about 14/15 years ago. My other exposure to him is watching a recent match of his vs Hyper Misao, where he has to finish eating a bag of chocolates before the referee will count the pin, and he gets run over more than once by her bicycle/spaceship thing. Also apparently hw is a real sweetiepumpkin in real life. So ... deathmatch wrestlers are a land of contrasts.
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DeathChicken posted:I'm to this day not really sure how Pogo faked jamming a sickle into someone's gut and drawing blood. So I assume he just didn't and wrestlers are crazy Either Onita gigged his stomach for the spot or Pogo just impaled him in that Pool match and I really don't know which is more unsettling. BrigadierSensible posted:My Deathmatch story is I once got to shake the bloodstained hand of Jun Kasai after a Flourescent Light Tube match at Korakuen Hall. I also pocketed a bit of the broken table that he had thrown himself through from a great height. Which was not the finisher to that match. There are reasons the man is missing teeth and is covered in scars.
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No deathmatch thread is complete without a dedicated post of Jun Kasai  Doting father https://twitter.com/crazymonkey0909/status/1360938604122398726 loving lunatic  King Of FREEDOM World Title No Canvas & Glass Board Death Match: Masashi Takeda (c) vs. Jun Kasai Freedoms FREEDOMS Deathmatch Carnival ~Crazy Monkey 20th Anniversary~ https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1m9bh6 Aja Kong, Jun Kasai & Minoru Suzuki Vs. Mitsuhisa Sunabe, Ryuji Ito & Yumi Ohka https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x379rps
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BrigadierSensible posted:Also apparently hw is a real sweetiepumpkin in real life. So ... deathmatch wrestlers are a land of contrasts. There's a quote from his son which is both terrifying and sweet that goes something along the lines of "one day I want to jump from the balcony of Korakuen Hall holding hands with my dad" Kasai takes his kid to joshi shows too, which is pretty funny considering how many joshi wrestlers are huge Kasai fans. On that topic, Suzu Suzuki is beginning her road to deathmatch wrestling tomorrow in the first of her seven match trial series against Yuko Miyamoto. Miyamoto says he remembers Suzu as a little girl coming to BJW shows with her dad in Kyushu. Must be weird for him to end up wrestling that little kid.
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Does anyone have a link to Yoshiaki Fujiwara/Yoshihiro Takayama v. Atsushi Onita/Shinjiro Ohtani exploding barbed wire match from 3/21/14?
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I love how the nsfw smilie suppresses the embed of the actually wholesome content.
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Out of all the deathmatch stuff I’ve seen explosions always looked like they were 100% gimmick. Is there any shoot stuff about how they work, we’re set up, etc? Frankly I’m a-ok with something, like blading or the “hollywood” stunt stuff that gets knocked for being too “blood and guts,” that probably takes less off your bump card than diving into every single commercial break on a PG program
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RealFoxy posted:Any other wrestler using a sickle, I'd just write it off as a normal blade job because they'd scrape it across the forehead. Pogo was a different beast, he'd carve people up and rarely take bumps but Onita is the kind of guy who'd say "Sure, just stab me in the stomach" too. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3824679 Some of the gifs in the op will settle this. Pogo just stabbed the gently caress out of people. No gimmicks needed. The only two things to actually disturb me in wresting are pogo carving people and the manny fernandez/invader #3 knee drop spot where invader started vomiting blood in the middle of the ring.
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deathmatches are the best the king nick gage cutting a promo while he's dying of blood loss: https://streamable.com/7g3mu
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Joey McChrist posted:the king nick gage cutting a promo while he's dying of blood loss: https://streamable.com/7g3mu 
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Onita exudes confidence and cool during his entrance to the Chono match in a way that few have matched. Chono also seemed cooled, but less so. The bell hadn't even wrung, and the whole thing felt important and a real fight.
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This was my first in person "death match" that i saw Im in the back on the bleacher seats https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbAI3aBjo28 I later got an up close and personal visit with Necro during my first match http://cautionlowflyingwords.blogspot.com/2021/01/how-i-met-necro-butcher.html I do hate all the needle stabbings in recent deathmatches, id rather see people land on things than get stabbed
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jesus christ where the gently caress did that divot in jun kasai's back come from just a description is fine i just ate
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Seems like only yesterday I first saw Baby Jun getting hosed down at Un F'n Believable 2001 after he got cut down to the bone on a bad table bump  how time flies
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I'm not a big deathmatch person: mainly because I have enough to follow as it is and while I really like random deathmatches sneaking onto promotions I like, I'm not a big enough fan to seek it out myself. However the announcement of the Rina Yamashita-Hikari Noa Hardcore match in TJPW reminded me of one of my favourite matches from last year; the deathmatch between Rina and Risa Sera on Ice Ribbon's big Yokohama show. Its not an explosion one but who cares it rules. https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7wrnh4 The official stipulation of this match was "pinfall only" since Risa Sera retired from deathmatch wrestling a few years ago but, to be frank, its a deathmatch. Risa Sera initially only planned to wrestle for a handful of years but then when she was booked on a random Big Japan show in an Ice Ribbon offer match she became a big fan of the deathmatches and spent years trying to cajole Ice Ribbon into letting her do them on their shows: they initially relented by letting her do hardcore matches; then by supporting her Produce Shows (which almost always ended in these 60 minute Ironman gauntlets which were her against a series of opponents; including a lot of top deathmatch wrestlers) and then eventually doing this match which is great. Its also where she met her husband: she's married to Orca Uto who is a deathmatch wrestler that left Big Japan last year which I guess is a slightly romantic story: love found within a load of broken glass or something like that. Rina Yamashita became a FREEDOMS regular last year: being in a load of matches that people really liked and she won their tag titles on their last show. So while you'll see others popping up in deathmatches sometimes this is probably your two main Joshi deathmatch people facing off. Its really cool starting from the entrances: Rina Yamashita is driven to the ring by Manami Toyota on her Harley carrying a big stack of light tubes; Risa Sera has her big light tube fan so they don't exactly hide what you are getting. And then it sort of builds up from there: its not one of those matches that's full of big weapon spots or whatever from the start but by the end it is: Rina is gushing real bad by the end (shockingly head butting a load of light tubes is not a good idea). Is it the best deathmatch in the world? Probably not; that Takeda-Kodaka match is better and there are others but I really loved it; and I hope everyone else that watches it does too.
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deathmatch is the only good wrestling and alex colon is the best wrestler in the world. i only got into it relatively recently after someone posted the jun kasai/masada no canvas match from a decade ago. turns out its not just old fat guys plodding around, carving their heads open and bashing each other with cookie sheets. someone should post about zona 23 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGvSL7APi-Y
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DeathChicken posted:I'm to this day not really sure how Pogo faked jamming a sickle into someone's gut and drawing blood. So I assume he just didn't and wrestlers are crazy most of the time he does a bunch of worked strikes with foot stomps and everything, then when it's time to actually cut them he uses theatrics to slow things down and make sure he can do it carefully. still hosed up the not that different from dragging someone across barb wire or whatever. shallow but long cuts to minimize tissue damage and maximize bleeding. cutting up someone's stomach area seems especially dangerous so maybe there's an extra trick for those little munchkin fucked around with this message at 04:32 on Feb 23, 2021 |
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A couple years back a friend of mine invited me to a Halloween party as her date. She ended up leaving a little early because she's not a drinker/sleeps early but I ended up staying and while all these friends/couples were asking me what type of stuff I liked and I just mentioned wrestling off-handedly and one girl there said she was a huge ECW fan when she was a little girl and loved the barbed wire and blood, so I pulled up a Jun Kasai match with a scissors board and the people at the party were EXTREMELY into it. One guy from the party added me two weeks later on FB and asked where to find more of that type of wrestling. I thought that'd be the end of it, but I went to a death match tournament locally and almost the whole crew from that party had drove up together and none of them had been watching wrestling in 10+ years before that Jun Kasai match
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https://www.theguardian.com/culture/gallery/2018/jun/24/night-massacre-tasmanias-first-wrestling-deathmatch-in-pictures Mad Dog McRea is one of Australia’s most legendary hardcore specialists. Crucially, given the festival context, I also think what he does with his body is a form of outsider art that can make bloodthirsty Dark Mofo 2017 star Hermann Nitsch look like a complete lightweight. And yes, the blood is real. And yes that is NJPW colour commentator Gino Gambino.  Edit: also this https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2019/aug/29/its-all-just-meat-why-i-fired-a-staple-gun-into-wrestling-star-krackerjaks-head Lid fucked around with this message at 04:51 on Feb 23, 2021 |
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woulda tapped out. can't do fuckin scissor boards. my hard stop is light tubes, so fairly low on the scale at this point omega/moxley from full gear '19 is probably my ideal death match. a couple gross spots to get juice and then the real gruesome poo poo is gimmicked but still looks good. i'm hoping the upcoming match is more kudo/toyoda than tournament of death once the danger level ticks from "blood and possible stitches" to "possible disgusting injury" my neuroses take over and I'm just waiting for something awful to happen
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Critical posted:woulda tapped out. can't do fuckin scissor boards.
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