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spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy
I've never done a wifoa, prepare for me to gently caress it up :cool:

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spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy

Grandicap posted:

SiV, pick mason with me!!!

ON IT. :thumbsup:

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy
I was really tempted to come into thread and pretend that Grandi hosed me on the masonry and post sad videos from Youtube.

ALL BY MYYYY SELLLLLLLLF

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy

Grandicap posted:

No, don't back out. Do this, it would be the best. And don't tell me about it in the masonry either.
The masonry I totally stood you up in ;)

Our masonry would have been awesome, and I'm not talking to you any more *weeps melodramatically*

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy

Mr. Steak posted:

also sandwolf u should check pronouns in the op so i can stop mentally editing your posts

I have Sandwolf listing as He/Him or is that not what you mean

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy

spacing in vienna posted:

I have Sandwolf listing as He/Him or is that not what you mean

OH NVM sorry I misread it, I get it now

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy

Grandicap posted:

I am making a post so it doesn't seem like I dipped after people put pressure back on me. But I am distracted by pics in my mason chat.

Can confirm, masonry has been full of cats and small children.

Also I asked Grandi in the masonry if he was scum and he said no and if he was lying that would be entrapment

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy

Sandwolf posted:

how today hasn't been a symphony of people shooting their gun's I'll NEVER understand

I'm remembering some Yami game where everyone had abilities that were completely unknown and we all started just spamming the thread d1 using them on each other to see what happened

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy

Toalpaz posted:

I see. So we have confirmed that grandi and siv are in an unconfirmed masonry. this makes things very easy. To begin with I don't think its necessary to learn all the roles in the game to understand people's relationships. Years ago I told you SIV I would take you in and mentor you in the ways of wafia. Let me give you these advices here today, just do what I do and vote where I vote and everything is going to turn out okay.

Okay guys I'm just going to do what toal says from here on out, because they're going to teach me Mafia.

Please do not make me vote Grandi, O Wise One. It'd suck to lose my masonbro d1.

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy

merk posted:

I got bored not posting

merk posted:

Woah I got bored posting

Do you have any pets you want to spam to the thread? That helps me when I'm bored

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy

Grandicap posted:

And it would suck to be lost d1.

It would be kind of hilarious for us to go to all this trouble and then one of us is either lunched or killed d1

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy

Mr. Steak posted:

at least we know we wont be getting rid of a power role if we kill grandi

Steak if you kill my mason bro I will make sad faces at you

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy
I have a confession to make: I took Mason A

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy

Grandicap posted:

This is a bad vote, not the voting for a theoretical scum claim, the real vote part and the trimmings. Toal is self conscious about it.
##vote Toalpaz

Sandwolf posted:

eh, it feels pretty on task for Toal tbh, I was already thinking about how someone will have to talk him out of that vote later

Grandicap posted:

How does having to talk someone out of a vote make you think they are town? This feels like you are coming at this from an odd angle Sandy.

Grandi we are still bros :hfive: but can you explain your reply here?

Having to talk someone out of a vote definitely sounds to me like the voter is town but wrong and insistent on it. I don't see anything off with Sand's post.

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy

Scientastic posted:

Whoever it was who took the role I wanted loving sucks

This post is giving me odd vibes and I don't know why.

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy

spacing in vienna posted:

I'm remembering some Yami game where everyone had abilities that were completely unknown and we all started just spamming the thread d1 using them on each other to see what happened

Note: in that game, RF self vigged d1 and I believe should have been considered the winner for that alone

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy

Grandicap posted:

The problem is what you stated, Sandy was coming in from the opinion that Toalp was town and needed to be talked down, as if Sandy knew Toalp's alignment.

I have very moved on since then, but that was what I was thinking at the time.

... OH. okay I misread entirely and thought you were saying somehow toalp didn't seem town and that would be what threw me off.

Also sorry I know this is pages back but when I have no idea wtf is going on in a game I try going back and rereading and poking at things that seem off to see if anything pops up

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy
(I've been paying a lot more attention to small children and cats in mason chat than this thread. Mea culpa)

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy

merk posted:

You’re way too much ego and not enough id

-freshman year college student

merk posted:

It’s pronounced Nee-cha, not Nee-chee

-also freshman year college student

are you there Jah? it me, Ras Trent

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy

Sandwolf posted:

*looks directly, directly at you*

it was you steak, you're the one who should have picked it up, you get targeted all the time, NKed occasionally

I do not get targeted and do not get NKed so I figured it was useless for me to pickup

know yourself, know your worth

I legit do not get NK'd very often and I do not know why.

I also have a student in ten so I'm going to fail miserably at actually getting current with the thread before work

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy

Mr. Steak posted:

##vote spoonsy

he was weird about my setup spec before. a little to eager to preemptively give scum outs for my theoretical scenario

I legit do not even remember this happening

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy

Retro Futurist posted:

No I don’t give a hoot about that, it’s pretty common for people to complain about me not voting when I’m just somewhat conservative with them.

And he does do it a lot, and I’ve caught him out as scum for it a lot too

The not voting until late day, I do that too. I don't tend to throw them out until near deadline unless I have a particularly strong case / gut vibe. I just don't like throwing votes around, I dunno why.

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy
Does merk still get NK'd early as town, or is that not a thing any more?

I feel like "floaty and disengaged" is more of a useful accusation on d3. D1 people are still trying to get a toehold on things.

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy

Sandwolf posted:

SiV give me a town and a scum read? You've seemed particularly reticent to get involved in whatever topics the thread is talking about

That's a legit call but it's more detachment than reticence I think? I'm chatting up a storm in the masonry (all non game thus far) and have to keep coming back here and trying to get dialed in to what's going on. It's like the audio is only coming in in one speaker.

Hmm. Town and a scum? Okay.

Town: RF. I don't know if he's right that he has perfect merk-dar but I believe his reasoning and explanations around it.

Keane. He's posted minimally but he's making calls and not hedging.

I'll go further and say I think Obama is town -- I've played two games where he was scum and in both cases he felt very "hey hello, I am also participating in this thread, fellow townies" / self conscious there and he seems more legit this time around.

Scum: hmm. This is harder, because I don't have strong scum vibes anywhere, which is also part of what's throwing me off. I mean, I can see other people's case on you, and I can see it being right, but I don't have that "Sandwolf is definitely scum" gut feeling i usually have d1, and I'm not sure why.

CPig is using meta to coast on not participating, and I realize that's technically alignment neutral but him doubling down on it after being called out, the just earnestly leaning into it feels like a scum move.

Dark horse candidate: Scientastic.

People I Wouldn't Vote Today: Grandicap, because masonbro. I see the awkwardness everyone else is pointing out, but I'm thinking it's just not alignment specific. This is possibly bias because I do not want him to be scum.

I feel like Grandi as scum will make a case that is structurally sound-ish but not really believable that he actually thinks it; if he starts doing that I'll take a closer look. But not today because: mason.

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy

Sandwolf posted:

what do you seek to gain from this distinction? because it kinda feels like you just want to trip me up or something, but these are consistent

I can think he's scummy AND put pressure on him hoping that'll kick him into gear

I'm p sure Merk gets a hair up his rear end when he spots something and nails someone with it. That's not a thing you can force or pressure him into.

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy

Grandicap posted:

A pressure vote hopes to push someone to do something, you are on the fence as to their scumminess, if they do the thing, it will solidify you opinion on them, there is room for change. There is some underlying thing you see sure, but your mind isn't made up that they are scum.

Also, I thought you were 3rd vote, but you're only second. Second vote for pressure is fine, 3rd is trying to get him executed. Keep poking Sandwolf, but I am definitely getting vibes from you. I am watching.

Hmm. I disagree with this, because I don't usually bother doing a headcount on who is where when I vote, whether it's pressure or for scum vibes. Short of it being a decisive push close to deadline, obvs.

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy
##vote CPig

The sand case is looking better but I'm still missing that gut feel that it's him, so I think this is the better option right now? Better than Keane at least.

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy

Retro Futurist posted:

Ok far be it for me to break tradition and keep a vig in my pants here. 4 hours left, guess I'll spice things up by shooting one of the leaders. Pig, Keane, make your cases

Oh man i was counting the other way from Eastern to Mountain, thinking it was deadline at 5 pm (i.e. in twenty minutes) and not 9 pm. Hence the abrupt vote.

Also lololol amaaaaaaazing

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy

Mr. Steak posted:

i literally interpreted that post as "i'll be day-drinking wine all week" not that u were on vacation lmao

Lol that's hilarious

I'm sad right now because I have two more students today which means I can't start drinking yet

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy

Voodoofly posted:

Spectators (who have no spoiler knowledge) have bets going on. One spectator won a bet. Their reward was to choose one song to share with all of you.

I apologize for having enabled this.

I do not know what I expected from that video, but whatever it was, that wasn't it.

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy

Retro Futurist posted:

Technically I'm vanilla now. I mean unless I was wrong and I die in the next minutes

You also get to forever bask in the glory of nailing scum with a vig d1. Hot drat.

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy

Toalpaz posted:

do you still think its, 'the pig' siv

No, not particularly. I had a town read on Keane so clearly my gut is poo poo this time around.

Plus we have more to go on now.

##unvote

Off to reread Keane.

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy

spacing in vienna posted:

No, not particularly. I had a town read on Keane so clearly my gut is poo poo this time around.

Plus we have more to go on now.

##unvote

Off to reread Keane.

Mafia edit: lol like that's new

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy

Scientastic posted:

CPig has now voted twice in nascent bandwagons, he’s not trying to catch scum, he’s trying to see which way the wind is blowing and joining in early enough so people don’t accuse him of bandwagoning

His Steak vote was on a candidate who he thought was gaining momentum, his immediate hop off onto Spoonsy for no reason is exactly the same, with the added bonus that it shows he didn’t really believe Steak was scum, he was just voting because he had to be voting for someone, might as well be a guy who could get executed if things kept moving in the same direction

Question. At the time of this post, was Keane in the lead for votes?

This seems like -- I'm not sure how to explain this but the vibe I get from this is someone spotting a crack they can wedge open to write a case around, one that might even sound convincing and solid, but not something the person actually believes.

Artificial? More like "I can case X, they did Y and that is generally considered a scummy act" than an actual "gently caress, it's Bob, isn't it?"

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy
##vote sci

Even though it's looking like it's going to be spoonsy

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy

b-minus1 posted:

Unless I missed it. Checking now

I don't think anyone was voting sci when he was here last. But he claimed someone else got the role he wanted, thus, vanilla

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy
Lol wtf

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy

Mr. Steak posted:

you've activated my trap card!! ##vote spoonsy

Hey we have eternal twilight. Why the swap?

Other than the obvious answer, which is for the lulz

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy

Sandwolf posted:

is this real? I don't trust Mod Hal

If you go full Lumpen that's going to be amazing

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spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy

Sandwolf posted:

become a Libertarian??? don't count on it!!

Hahahaha no there was one game where he tunneled all the way down to the earth's molten layers, and when someone he'd been pushing flipped town, he actually pinged the mod on discord to ask if the mod was playing a prank on him

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