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re: persona 4 chat, Ai Ebihara is criminally underrated IMO.
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For persona 6 I wish they'd let us hang out in groups and have the cast bond with each other while the protag is absent, like in Fire Emblem. More importantly I want to be able to nudge them to date each other.
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Feb 23, 2021 20:08
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Mechanically persona 5 is a lot tighter, especially Royal. I love baton pass and it makes certain generalist characters like Makoto so much better, and gives Yusuke a niche as somebody for the massive payoffs after chaining weaknesses, so you can really play with how all of that interacts. It's unfortunate that there's only one boss fight that really leans into that mechanic (and it's not really fun to boot); the game could have used a few more areas and bosses that allow crazy chains and combos like that.
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Feb 25, 2021 15:02
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Err, I thought Haru was actually great in P5R if you specced her to use her gun skills. One-shot kill has insane single-target damage potential.
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Mar 2, 2021 21:32
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Gaius Marius posted:I think her utility is a little more than most people weight it, just because it's generally harder I find to cover Psi Weakness, a lot more persona's seem to fit into the typical four elements than into the extra two added. Tetra and Makarakarn are also exceedingly useful if used in certain context's That reminds me, I had tetrakarn on Joker during the sixth palace boss fight and the boss killed itself by reflecting its physical attack on itself 
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Mar 3, 2021 09:09
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I'm really curious what traits and role Makoto would have had in the initial ideas, then? There's not a lot to her except being the planner/strategist (and some repressed rage at her situation in life I guess)
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Mar 5, 2021 19:04
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Same Final doot and now you die Edit: also your wife is correct, Ai owns
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Mar 10, 2021 01:24
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Meanwhile I understand the P5 manga is actually pretty good because it dives more into each character's personality, including Joker's
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Mar 10, 2021 20:46
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Acerbatus posted:Tbh I feel worse dating any of the other girls because they're like, teenagers. Yeah Joker is but I'm not and he's a blank slate anyways. This is always weird to me because I never consider characters in games to be self-inserts. So to me Joker dating anybody of his own age range feels like "aww, look at those teens" instead of feeling like I, personally, am dating those girls
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Mar 12, 2021 10:22
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Lord_Magmar posted:Whilst a fair point, Persona 3-5 protagonists are very much blank slates so you can self-insert into them if you so wish. I know that's part of their appeal/idea behind a mute character, yes, but I have a lot of trouble understanding people who do. Characters always have their own design that differs from the player, as well as inferred character traits, even if they aren't explicited. If anything blank slate characters are just boring (Byleth in FE:3H comes to mind) or have sufficient panache and character like Joker that their body language and mannerisms make them stand out sufficiently. Likewise, I can't treat my dnd characters or characters in Western RPGs as self-inserts. I see them as distinct characters, and I get input on how their story goes but they're not me...
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Mar 12, 2021 14:26
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Akira Akiyama, to get the added alliteration appeal.
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Mar 12, 2021 23:51
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I'm hoping they branch out a bit going forward and have young adults as a cast. Maybe university students, or people who are taking a leap year between high school and university (not sure if that's really a thing in Japan though) so we can have a proper globetrotting trip. If they really wanted to go off the rails they could put it in a historical setting like a Grand Tour or at the university of Bologna in the Middle Ages or something like that, but I doubt they'll stray so far off the winning formula when so many people enjoy the contemporary setting.
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Mar 15, 2021 10:41
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RillAkBea posted:It's not a thing, no. The closest thing to that trend in Japan is either going on an exchange year during university or some people take a working holiday after they graduate. I really wouldn't mind a Persona game about a Japanese exchange student in university... there's even programmes that are like 1 semester a particular city and another semester in another city that could provide a good framing for a globetrotting experience. fight shadows in Trinity College library in Dublin
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Mar 15, 2021 16:01
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Harrow posted:You should play Persona 3 sometime. In P3, your responses in social link scenes can actually cause a social link to go into "reverse" status where you and the character basically have a falling out. You can't progress a reversed social link until you spend some time patching things up. There's actually one link in Persona 4 that still does this (Ai) and I remember a lot of people disliking her for it lol The trap options were so obvious too. "Yes let me agree to be this chick's rebound, this will end well"
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Mar 16, 2021 15:42
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Solaris 2.0 posted:My comment, which is clearly being taken away further than it was meant to, was simply a reflection that by and large, Japan's social views on LGBTQ subjects is more conservative than contemporary western views. This actually isn't even true though. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/27/world/asia/japan-gay-marriage.html quote:A recent poll reflected the dichotomy. The survey, by the advertising giant Dentsu, found that more than half of gay men and lesbians in Japan were concerned about coming out. Yet it also showed that almost 80 percent of people 60 and under now support same-sex marriage. https://www.prri.org/research/amid-multiple-crises-trump-and-biden-supporters-see-different-realities-and-futures-for-the-nation/ quote:The vast majority of Americans (70%) favor allowing gay and lesbian couples to marry legally, compared to 28% of Americans who oppose it. Majorities of Democrats (80%) and independents (76%), as well as half of Republicans (50%), support same-sex marriage. https://ec.europa.eu/commfrontoffice/publicopinion/index.cfm/ResultDoc/download/DocumentKy/87771 EU barometer shows average of 76% in the EU and even 'Western views' like Italy and Austria hang at 70% and 68%.
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Mar 17, 2021 20:31
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Oh I definitely agree it's a glaring omission in P5 considering its themes. I just think it's a P5 problem, not necessarily a Japan problem. Apologies, I didn't want to dogpile on Solaris. I just had one too many conversations with chuds who claimed that LGBTQ representation in Japanese media would be forcing Western sensibilities on the Japanese, as if Japanese culture is a sacred cow to be protected from the evils of political correctness, and it makes me jumpy to point out that's just not true and LGBTQ representation in Japanese media isn't "anti-Japanese" for whatever reason. Not that Solaris was doing that by any means, just explaining why I feel it's important to remind people that the Japanese population at large isn't uniquely conservative compared to the West and why LGBT representation shouldn't be considered to be groundbreaking any more in my animes and JRPGs.
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Mar 17, 2021 22:46
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anakha posted:I... think I might have stumbled onto what you were referring to here. Welcome, this is how you break the game over your knee
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Mar 19, 2021 18:40
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Acerbatus posted:This is old news but the Cutting Room Floor has really interesting cut content. I’m... not entirely sure what any of this post relates to but it sounds magical
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Mar 24, 2021 23:37
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It becomes less of an issue (the first palace is the hardest due to a lack of resources and options). I'd suggest using more buffs and debuffs for midbosses, and maybe swapping to merciless (it increases damage when hitting weaknesses across the board, both for you and for enemies, so maybe it actually makes it easier for you if you prioritise strategising?)
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Mar 25, 2021 20:48
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GiantRockFromSpace posted:My pet peeve is why did they not make Last Surprise, the song about how you've bamboozled the enemy and got them by surprise, the ambush theme and Take Over, the song describing the Phantom Thieves objective, the normal battle theme. No it's true. Last surprise works much better as an ambush song and take over much better as a frontal assault song. Unfortunately they did the same thing in Persona 4 where they replaced the old music with the new music for the ambush fights because that's the one that players are most likely to hear if they're playing well.
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Mar 31, 2021 15:10
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Harrow posted:Where's our cool delinquent girl? Stuck in persona 4, unfortunately! I have to say I wouldn't mind the next persona to have a trashfire main group instead of the classic chariot-magician-lovers-priestess-emperor-empress arcana. Tower, moon, death, hanged man social links as your party members, just give me a main cast of people who are totally disfunctional.
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Apr 2, 2021 08:55
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Acerbatus posted:P4 had one of those? I legitimately don't remember. 
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Apr 2, 2021 23:49
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Acerbatus posted:Is that an american pronunciation or something? I've never heard 'uh teh lee ay'. Not sure, but it sure is closer to the French pronunciation than "At leer"
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Dec 17, 2021 11:02
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Don't play persona 3. It's just not a good time if you're coming from P4 and especially P5. Just watch the anime movie instead so you know what online nerds are talking about when they rave about it without having to slog through several dozens of hours of identical-looking floors in Tartarus and the worst social links in the series. There's some interesting stuff in P3 for sure but it's hidden under 60 hours of tedium
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It's not just the mechanics, it's that the first 80% of the game are just straight up boring. There's no plot to speak of, the characters are by design entirely reactive instead of proactive, and the only gameplay to speak of is the same tower with virtually (what feels like) endless floors you have to mop up. There's some good moments but it's dragged down by 25 out of 31 days of every month being straight up filler until the month of October, when the writers finally decided they were going to go somewhere with the story.
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