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I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Pentecoastal Elites posted:

there are almost definitely sentient, civilization-building aliens out there because we exist and seem to have been created by natural processes. Even if the conditions for complex, multicellular, thinking life to arise are vanishingly small we're still talking about something like 7 septillion stars in the observable universe. There are probably trillions or quadrillions of aliens that at least get to something that could communicate with us. It's more unlikely that we're the first out of however many bazillion instances of thinking life, or that our solar system is the only one perfect enough to host life, than civilizations are just a thing that happens sometimes (however rare it actually is)

Unfortunately we'll probably never actually get to meet any aliens because not only are the distances involved way too vast to do anything about, but any two species are probably only capable of mutual communication on a tiny time slice. They're either not at our level yet (animals) or so far beyond us that we might as well be animals and it's entirely possible that aliens like that are out there doing whatever and we can't even perceive them.

On the plus side if we ever do go looking it's pretty likely we'd at least get to find some cool alien ruins and derelicts.

The distance problem combined with the speed of light means we’re basically stuck looking at the Milky Way, as even if another galaxy were entirely colonized in a way that we could detect, we wouldn’t be able to see it for a long time. Even if there’s a species with a ten million-year golden age, if they’re a hundred thousand light years away, we’re probably not lasting long enough to see them get started.

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I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Sagan should have treated the prospect of a pussy on the voyager record the same way he treated those songs Apple Records wouldn’t let him license for a reduced fee: “who’s going to fly out there and check?”

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Mister Speaker posted:

Even just from reading this part of the book as a teen, I knew Carl Sagan hosed.

Did you read his essay about how weed is good? He hosed.

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