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Pope Hilarius II posted:Is there any scientific consensus on whether Venus's axial tilt is 2.7° or really 177.3°? Latter seems more likely, given its rotation? The main reason I think its that its much harder for Venus to have a 177.3 degree tilt than it would be for just spinning backwards. I also remember reading theories that Venus used to spin in the opposite direction but its winds were blowing so strongly that it caused the planet to eventually spin backwards.
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DropsySufferer posted:Why do the probes fail so fast on Venus? Is it just because we haven't developed materials yet that can withstand more than a few hours in the 800 degree acid oven of Venus? So, we actually don't know how long the Venera probes actually lasted on the surface of Venus. The reason they "failed" so fast is because the relay "orbiter" went over the horizon and lost radio contact with the probes.
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Feb 27, 2021 02:43
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Communist Zombie posted:The main reason I think its that its much harder for Venus to have a 177.3 degree tilt than it would be for just spinning backwards. Right hand rule. 177.3° is the correct tilt much like Uranus is 97.8° in the very same image.
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Feb 27, 2021 02:58
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blastron posted:Is there a good reason to go to Venus, apart from cool science things? It seems like it's a huge ball of hot acid vapors that will actively try to murder anything that gets too close. Sure, we could make some cool sky cities, but is there a point to that other than cramming more humans into the solar system? Extreme hazard planets are the best places to find rare elements to mine with your multitool. Just keep an eye on your life support, and recharge your hazard mods as needed. Stephen King wrote a short story (I Am The Doorway, from the Night Shift collection) about a manned mission to orbit Venus, get lots of measurements and photos, and come back to Earth. Spoiler alert, things didn't go well... The manned probe crashed on re-entry, killing 1 astronaut, and paralyzing the other from the waist down. He retires, and all seems fine for a bit, before eyeballs form on his fingertips. These eyes act as Doorways between the host, and some alien intelligence watching everything, and learning. The astronaut wakes up to find himself holding his fingers out to examine things around his home, and he feels revulsion and hate of humanity from the alien life watching. A local boy sees the astronaut's secret eyes, and the alien life moves to protect its secrecy, by piloting the astronaut's disabled body like a machine, and killing the child. Astronaut shows the eyes to a close friend, who runs when the Alien mind becomes hostile, and pulls lightning from the sky to kill the second witness. While the alien life is worn out from the exertion, Astro douses his hands in kerosene, and burns his hands off in the fireplace. All seems ok after a while. Until the Astronaut wakes up with a ring of eyes in the middle of his chest. Then he uses his hook hands to load a shotgun, and gets ready to solve his problem permanently. Anywho, Venus has made it pretty clear that if it were a house, there'd be a Trespassers Will Be Shot sign out front, along with several large, hungry dogs. We should take the hint.
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Feb 27, 2021 08:27
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mediaphage posted:no, i don't think so. venus has like 20ppm water. it's lost all but like a tenth of a percent of any water it had. the clouds are mostly just sulfuric acid. Racist slander
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Feb 28, 2021 01:44
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let's take half of venus's atmosphere and put it on mars. this will solve all our problems
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Mar 1, 2021 00:23
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Stexils posted:let's take half of venus's atmosphere and put it on mars. this will solve all our problems Unfortunately MegaMaid is out of commission
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Stexils posted:let's take half of venus's atmosphere and put it on mars. this will solve all our problems
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Mar 1, 2021 22:16
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actionjackson posted:which is the planet where there are constant giant storms with winds over 1000 mph? The storms are like the size of the US or bigger Earth in like 20 years
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Mar 3, 2021 00:15
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Venus rhymes with penis. Hilarious. This makes it the second funniest planet.
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Mar 4, 2021 22:49
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actionjackson posted:which is the planet where there are constant giant storms with winds over 1000 mph? The storms are like the size of the US or bigger Also Neptune, it has a Great Dark Spot / storm similar to Jupiter's, and winds greater than 1300 MPH were recorded by Voyager 2 when it did a flyby.
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Mar 6, 2021 18:11
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Why don't we just out a giant tube in the Venusian atmosphere and let all the clouds get sucked into space so we can see what it's really like on that planet
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low key sex master posted:Why don't we just out a giant tube in the Venusian atmosphere and let all the clouds get sucked into space so we can see what it's really like on that planet pretty difficult. you'd be better off hitting it with 2000 700km asteroids or installing a bunch of mass drivers on balloons
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Mar 6, 2021 22:35
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Pope Hilarius II posted:Unfortunately MegaMaid is out of commission gently caress, even in the future nothing works!
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Mar 26, 2021 14:52
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I was looking at the apollo application program today and I honestly think a venus flyby wouldn't be the worst idea.
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Mar 31, 2021 18:17
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When I was a little kid I always wondered why scientists didn't just build a giant laser to shoot all the clouds off Venus.
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It's because it wouldn't work
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Apr 6, 2021 03:42
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Yeah but what if it was really big
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Still wouldn't
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Apr 6, 2021 04:11
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You could make a sun powered laser with an orbiting system of mirrors using the corona as a lazing medium and vaporize Venus in the span of a week.
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Apr 6, 2021 13:28
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But the planet is good. The clouds are bad.
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Apr 6, 2021 13:32
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Binary Badger posted:Also Neptune, it has a Great Dark Spot / storm similar to Jupiter's, and winds greater than 1300 MPH were recorded by Voyager 2 when it did a flyby. Apparently Great Dark Spots dissipate and reappear every few years, unlike the Great Red Spot which has been going for at least a few centuries (yeah, that storm is the same one Galileo stared at). Also the Ice Giants are so insanely understudied, and it kills me that more attention isn't paid to them. Voyager 2 shot by them forty years ago, and that's all the human effort paid toward looking at them.
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Lamebot posted:You could make a sun powered laser with an orbiting system of mirrors using the corona as a lazing medium and vaporize Venus in the span of a week. can we do this to pluto instead
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Eat My Ghastly rear end posted:can we do this to pluto instead pluto is a dog, a simple club will do the job. please stay on topic, this is planet chat.
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Wipfmetz posted:pluto is a dog, a simple club will do the job. excellent point
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Apr 8, 2021 12:20
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Lamebot posted:You could make a sun powered laser with an orbiting system of mirrors using the corona as a lazing medium and vaporize Venus in the span of a week. can we do this with a really big club instead?
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Apr 8, 2021 12:23
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Wipfmetz posted:can we do this with a really big club instead? i think this is a job for mega maid 
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Apr 8, 2021 13:31
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mediaphage posted:i think this is a job for mega maid We need a reliable solution for this issue, and we need it _now_.
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A Festivus Miracle posted:Apparently Great Dark Spots dissipate and reappear every few years, unlike the Great Red Spot which has been going for at least a few centuries (yeah, that storm is the same one Galileo stared at). Well, they've devoted quite a bit of time to peep Uranus on the Hubble.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=612gSZsplpE Along with a bunch of some ground studies, but I agree it's high time we took a closer look at Uranus China already has plans to launch their own probe there in 2046 Right now the window for Jovian gravity assists has closed up until 2030 or so.. NASA has no concrete plans for anything, ESA might launch an orbiter in 2026.. might...
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Binary Badger posted:Well, they've devoted quite a bit of time to peep Uranus on the Hubble.. Wow, there is a lot of poo poo around Uranus. But seriously, that video is great
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Apr 8, 2021 15:54
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Binary Badger posted:Well, they've devoted quite a bit of time to peep Uranus on the Hubble.. how about you peep my anus on the hubble
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Well theres the Trident proposal thats under consideration for the Discovery Program, which will send a flyby probe to Neptune and Titan to do an (apparently) almost full mapping of the moon, plus some other science.
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Communist Zombie posted:Well theres the Trident proposal thats under consideration for the Discovery Program, which will send a flyby probe to Neptune and Titan to do an (apparently) almost full mapping of the moon, plus some other science. Let's go to both imo
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Communist Zombie posted:Well theres the Trident proposal thats under consideration for the Discovery Program, which will send a flyby probe to Neptune and Titan to do an (apparently) almost full mapping of the moon, plus some other science. Did you mean Triton? Titan orbits Saturn.
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Yeah, wouldn't make any sense to make a probe that heads out to Neptune then doubles back to Saturn to look at one of its moons.. the delta V would be enormous
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Yea I meant Triton. <_>
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Apr 14, 2021 18:41
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I want a venus blimp. 
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The phenomenon known as the Belt of Venus is my favourite Venus although I don't really know what the relationship is.  Phanatic posted:The longest duration a probe has survived on the surface of Venus was about two hours. That was Venera 13. Is this just the sound of the microphone malfunctioning being devoured by acid and wind or does Venus actually sound like violently escaping gasses.
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The Real Amethyst posted:The phenomenon known as the Belt of Venus is my favourite Venus although I don't really know what the relationship is. actually that is what Uranus sounds like
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spacetoaster posted:I like Venus. I think it's probably the only real chance we have to kinda terraform another planet. Low gravity MAYBE. But we can fake a magnetosphere. Hell, we can fake gravity if we really wanted to.
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