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Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Hodgepodge posted:

fantasy is better because you don't have to sort out an understanding of science, nor deal with every nerd's dogmatic interpretation of what science is, in order to write it

the dirty secret is you absolutely do not need this to write sci-fi

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Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

SlothfulCobra posted:

I feel like sci-fi also has an easier time differentiating itself from other sci-fi than fantasy does differentiating itself from other fantasy.

A lot of fantasy gets stuck in a hole of being just another LotR/D&D pastiche. Elves and dwarves you have to work uphill trying to differentiate from other elves and dwarves (and if you don't, they'll end up kinda flat), but the trappings of sci-fi were born out of genuinely speculating (or plausibly guessing) at the future of humanity, and it doesn't feel as much like a hack move to put in lasers and spaceships without explaining the speciifics. That's just casual realism, since most stories with cars don't feel the need to get into how internal combustion works.

This kinda seems like a weirdly specific Western literature and RPG thing, mind. Japanese stuff is glad to borrow the trappings and do their own thing with it, and only includes anything remotely recognisable if they feel like it, maybe because it's a cultural borrowing already, while western authors seem hung up on basically emulating what fantasy 'should' be and only begrudgingly include anything else besides a bog standard Tolkien ripoff.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Warhammer Fantasy actually does flat out have that; the Empire realised that stamping out magic entirely was more trouble than its worth and causing mages to turn to Chaos just to survive, so they created the magical college and worked out a state-sanctioned style of magic that can be used relatively safely, by having elven mages visit and basically develop the equivalent of elf magic kindergarten into a full blown set of magical styles for humans (since proper elven magic takes a hundred years just to learn the basics). Witch hunters are supposed to hand magically talented humans over to the colleges if they don't detect any taint of Chaos, though quite a few haven't gotten that memo.

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