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Budzilla posted:Reminds me of this Onion video. Gotta say most astronauts sounds like assholes. I hope Buzz Aldrin isn't one I have terrible news for you
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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PittTheElder posted:I have terrible news for you He's dead?
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Mar 4, 2021 12:47
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Dude is definitely an rear end in a top hat, almost nobody liked the guy. Astronaut corps thought he was insanely full of himself (that this stands out in a group of other astronauts says something) plus he was a fuckin dick to his wives In terms of actually doing job he did fine tho. He definitely agitated to be the first guy to walk on the moon, but NASA management pretty firmly shut that down
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Mar 4, 2021 20:07
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Never meet your heroes. He wasn't my hero but he did seem to have a good image around him.
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Mar 5, 2021 00:50
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alan shepherd for being a dumbass christian scientist and bumping lovell et al to apollo 13
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Mar 5, 2021 05:55
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Bumping them wasn’t a jerky thing, though, right? I thought they all wanted to fly ASAP because they didn’t know if there’s be a budget to fly the next year so Lowell was excited to go on 13
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Nah budget for missions through 16 were very secure. He had been grounded for medical reasons, but after getting that corrected Alan Shepard got a crew assignment and a Commander's seat for no other reason than being first American astronaut Alan Shepard (and being friends with Deke Slayton probably). He was way less qualified for that seat than a lot of guys. Shepherd was assigned to basically the next available mission after his surgery, which was 13, instead of Gordon Cooper who had been backup commander of 10, and so could have expected the prime rotation for 13 (Slayton has said he basically thought Cooper was a slacker, there's drama there). Lovell had been backup commander for 11 and became prime crew for 14, more or less the expected assignment for him. The swap happens after that, because Shepard was so far behind the ball he needed more time to train. Lovell and his crew had been working together for long enough that it was no big deal to fly them early (but then of course 13 turns into its own poo poo show for unrelated reasons). TL;dr: the swap itself wasn't dramatic but there's a lot of adjacent drama, none of which involves Lovell really.
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Mar 5, 2021 17:41
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:
It's a good book but you should brace yourself for a lot of sexist jokes that have not aged well. Mullane realizes that he shouldn't have told those jokes (it's a lot of "check out this hilarious joke that you're not allowed to tell anymore") but is less clear on why. Also, two of this three flights were classified DOD missions that he can't say much about (spy satellites) so only one mission gets a detailed description. He did almost die on the way down on STS-27 so that's exciting!
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Budzilla posted:Never meet your heroes. He wasn't my hero but he did seem to have a good image around him. He's a great ambassador for the space program, and deserves credit for being forthright about the problems he had after returning to earth. Amazingly, some people don't deal well with their lives having peaked at age 39. And a lot of his issues stem directly from his overbearing dad. He's also a raging Republican. And while an astronaut, he did drive his colleagues crazy by considering himself the foremost expert on everything.
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zakharov posted:Also, two of this three flights were classified DOD missions that he can't say much about (spy satellites) so only one mission gets a detailed description. He did almost die on the way down on STS-27 so that's exciting! Oh drat, he was on that flight? Does he talk about it much in the book? Curious if that's where we get the story of the crew being horrified at the damage, and ground control writing it off because they only had the downgraded images? Also I have always loved the Hoot Gibson line from the wikipedia page: quote:When Gibson saw the damage he thought to himself, "We are going to die"; he and others did not believe that the shuttle would survive reentry. Gibson advised the crew to relax because "No use dying all tensed-up", he said, but if instruments indicated that the shuttle was disintegrating, Gibson planned to "tell mission control what I thought of their analysis" in the remaining seconds before his death. Wonder if he has a book...
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Mar 5, 2021 18:09
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PittTheElder posted:Nah budget for missions through 16 were very secure. He had been grounded for medical reasons, the medical reason being an entirely minor inner ear thing that could have been fixed with a shunt at any time if he hadn't been a dumbass "pray away disease" christian scientist
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Mar 5, 2021 18:57
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PittTheElder posted:Oh drat, he was on that flight? Does he talk about it much in the book? Curious if that's where we get the story of the crew being horrified at the damage, and ground control writing it off because they only had the downgraded images? He talks about it as much as he can - not much about what he actually did, but some good stuff about the arguments with mission control and the very tense re-entry. That quote is in the book.
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Mar 5, 2021 19:23
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Raskolnikov38 posted:the medical reason being an entirely minor inner ear thing that could have been fixed with a shunt at any time if he hadn't been a dumbass "pray away disease" christian scientist I did not know that, 
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PittTheElder posted:I did not know that, yeah he sucks rear end. he only got it fixed because a doctor was able to convince him that a shunt inserted without anesthesia probably didn't count as surgery Raskolnikov38 fucked around with this message at 21:25 on Mar 5, 2021 |
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Mar 5, 2021 21:23
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What does Christian Science have to say about cheating on your wife like crazy? Because he definitely did lots of that.
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Mar 5, 2021 21:29
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Naw it’s cool
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Mar 5, 2021 23:39
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the thing to remember about astronauts, especially the early ones, is that they were largely test pilots, and like everyone from the air force absolutely out-of-their-mind psychopath nutjobs
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Mar 9, 2021 16:57
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You had to be a little crazy to strap yourself onto a nuclear missile. Multiply that by the initial crazy required to be a test pilot.
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That’s not fair to say. Some of them were Navy.
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