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PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

And why isn't it Scott Carpenter?

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PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

Oh I just remembered Harrison Schmidt went on to become a climate change denier, he should be in the running too

PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

poisonpill posted:

Serious question: is it possible the massive amounts of radiation that astronauts at mess with their brains?

Nah they don't get all that much more radiation than they would on earth, and I don't think the twin study on the Kelly's turned up anything like that.

It's just cause being an astronaut almost requires you to be a hyper Type A personality. There are exceptions of course (looking at you Micheal Collins), and it's not as big of a problem these days with a larger astronaut core, but a large fraction of them seem to be just straight up assholes.

PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

Vavrek posted:

My first thought was "that guy who pointed a camera straight at the sun and burned it out", but on looking up who that was, it turns out it was Alan Bean and Alan Bean was great.



Getting Dave Foley to play him in From The Earth To The Moon was an inspired choice imo

PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

Well that's why I said Scott Carpenter. He got distracted looking at ice particles out the window and nearly got himself killed.

The turd thing went over pretty well honestly

PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

Lawman 0 posted:

haha I never heard of this post the video!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uuv6TVv0r44

Note that John Young was also on Apollo 10 for the poop bag incident, and once got chewed out by management for smuggling a corned beef sandwich into orbit on Gemini 3. After Apollo landed he stuck with NASA and commanded the first shuttle mission. He is quite possibly the best astronaut.

PittTheElder fucked around with this message at 08:52 on Feb 28, 2021

PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

Microgravity stops your sinuses from draining and you lose your sense of smell though, so not so bad

PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

Captain von Trapp posted:

Per Shuttle-era astronaut and fantastic memoirist Mike Mullane, John Young was an abysmally terrible manager of people and (notwithstanding the respect forhis accomplishments as an astronaut) was universally loathed by the astronaut corps he ran.

Interesting. I should really get around to reading Riding Rockets one of these days.

PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

Budzilla posted:

Reminds me of this Onion video. Gotta say most astronauts sounds like assholes. I hope Buzz Aldrin isn't one :(

I have terrible news for you

PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

Dude is definitely an rear end in a top hat, almost nobody liked the guy. Astronaut corps thought he was insanely full of himself (that this stands out in a group of other astronauts says something) plus he was a fuckin dick to his wives

In terms of actually doing job he did fine tho. He definitely agitated to be the first guy to walk on the moon, but NASA management pretty firmly shut that down

PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

Nah budget for missions through 16 were very secure. He had been grounded for medical reasons, but after getting that corrected Alan Shepard got a crew assignment and a Commander's seat for no other reason than being first American astronaut Alan Shepard (and being friends with Deke Slayton probably). He was way less qualified for that seat than a lot of guys.

Shepherd was assigned to basically the next available mission after his surgery, which was 13, instead of Gordon Cooper who had been backup commander of 10, and so could have expected the prime rotation for 13 (Slayton has said he basically thought Cooper was a slacker, there's drama there). Lovell had been backup commander for 11 and became prime crew for 14, more or less the expected assignment for him.

The swap happens after that, because Shepard was so far behind the ball he needed more time to train. Lovell and his crew had been working together for long enough that it was no big deal to fly them early (but then of course 13 turns into its own poo poo show for unrelated reasons).

TL;dr: the swap itself wasn't dramatic but there's a lot of adjacent drama, none of which involves Lovell really.

PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

zakharov posted:

Also, two of this three flights were classified DOD missions that he can't say much about (spy satellites) so only one mission gets a detailed description. He did almost die on the way down on STS-27 so that's exciting!

Oh drat, he was on that flight? Does he talk about it much in the book? Curious if that's where we get the story of the crew being horrified at the damage, and ground control writing it off because they only had the downgraded images?

Also I have always loved the Hoot Gibson line from the wikipedia page:

quote:

When Gibson saw the damage he thought to himself, "We are going to die"; he and others did not believe that the shuttle would survive reentry. Gibson advised the crew to relax because "No use dying all tensed-up", he said, but if instruments indicated that the shuttle was disintegrating, Gibson planned to "tell mission control what I thought of their analysis" in the remaining seconds before his death.

Wonder if he has a book...

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PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

Raskolnikov38 posted:

the medical reason being an entirely minor inner ear thing that could have been fixed with a shunt at any time if he hadn't been a dumbass "pray away disease" christian scientist

I did not know that, :lol:

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