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Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011



piL posted:

Prop Wash is on to me, but hopefully Best Friends indulges.

It reads very clear to me.

quote:


In elementary schools, CDC recommends all students remain at least 3 feet apart in classrooms where mask use is universal — regardless of whether community transmission is low, moderate, substantial, or high.

In middle and high schools, CDC also recommends students should be at least 3 feet apart in classrooms where mask use is universal and in communities where transmission is low, moderate, or substantial.
Middle school students and high school students should be at least 6 feet apart in communities where transmission is high, if cohorting is not possible. Cohorting is when groups of students are kept together with the same peers and staff throughout the school day to reduce the risk for spread throughout the school. This recommendation is because COVID-19 transmission dynamics are different in older students – that is, they are more likely to be exposed to SARS-CoV-2 and spread it than younger children.

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Now in turn, I would love it if someone explained to me how a teacher in a class full of kids is supposed to stay 6 feet from their kids. A pretty stunning number of posters here apparently went to schools with extremely large classrooms with extremely low energy classmates.

It's only difficult to read if you're trying very hard to believe that it does not say any of that, or that it is not issued as a license to open up the schools. Cause the schools sure are reading it that way. Much like how 1400=2000, having to argue something means he opposite of what it clearly does can lead to a lot of anger.

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shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005




an obit for the ages

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May


piL posted:

I know it's Fox News and the organization is incentivized to spread this garbage, but her response is exactly how I dealt with certain coworkers when I just wanted to make it through dinner and sleep before watch.

What the actual gently caress is going on here.

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008


piL posted:

I know it's Fox News and the organization is incentivized to spread this garbage, but her response is exactly how I dealt with certain coworkers when I just wanted to make it through dinner and sleep before watch.

Are you also paid millions to literally ask questions?

piL
Sep 20, 2007
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Taco Defender

Best Friends posted:

It reads very clear to me.


Now in turn, I would love it if someone explained to me how a teacher in a class full of kids is supposed to stay 6 feet from their kids. A pretty stunning number of posters here apparently went to schools with extremely large classrooms with extremely low energy classmates.

It's only difficult to read if you're trying very hard to believe that it does not say any of that, or that it is not issued as a license to open up the schools. Cause the schools sure are reading it that way. Much like how 1400=2000, having to argue something means he opposite of what it clearly does can lead to a lot of anger.

'In turn' is used for when you do something first. What I asked for is what should the statement say. Not can you read it--not how it should be read, but how it should read. This is an idiomatic use of language that probably falters when written without audible emphasis on the tendr, and therefore vague. Sorry for that. What I meant was, what should they have written instead?

piL
Sep 20, 2007
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Taco Defender

Wasabi the J posted:

Are you also paid millions to literally ask questions?

I suspect that she's paid millions to not ask questions.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May


I tell people that St. Louis has two police unions, one for white officers and one for black officers, and people are shocked.
There's good reason for this.
https://twitter.com/CoriBush/status/1376673989574209545

Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011



They should not have issued guidance that is literally impossible to follow imo. Posting impossible instructions only makes sense as a green light, especially in a context where governors, the president and the arrayed upper middle class PTA parents are demanding reopening.

I'll stop posting about this now. Feel free to explain how a teacher can stay six feet from everyone in a classroom setting anytime btw.

piL
Sep 20, 2007
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Taco Defender

Best Friends posted:

They should not have issued guidance that is literally impossible to follow imo. Posting impossible instructions only makes sense as a green light, especially in a context where governors, the president and the arrayed upper middle class PTA parents are demanding reopening.

I'll stop posting about this now. Feel free to explain how a teacher can stay six feet from everyone in a classroom setting anytime btw.

Certain special education settings with very low teacher to student to space ratios. School districts willing to enforce and remove violators of policy.

not caring here
Feb 22, 2012

blazemastah 2 dry 4 u

Best Friends posted:


I'll stop posting about this now. Feel free to explain how a teacher can stay six feet from everyone in a classroom setting anytime btw.

Duct taped to the ceiling.

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418



do teachers not have desks anymore?

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011
Chelsea Manning is a goddamned HERO


not caring here posted:

Duct taped to the ceiling.

Somewhere on a hard drive in a closet is a picture of a lot of my friends' poo poo duct taped to a ceiling in a building in Iraq. Thanks for reminding me of this memory, a 5'4" dude jumping with a broom trying to knock his poo poo off the 3 meter high ceiling.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May


RFC2324 posted:

do teachers not have desks anymore?

Yes, it's still 1930 and teachers still sit behind desks lecturing perfectly geometric rows of students for 7 hours a day.

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.

Is there really no news going on in the world right now that we need to be arguing about CDC guidance and teacher positioning?

I think we've covered the debate, let's move on.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Don't be so gloomy. After all it's not that awful. Like the fella says, in Italy for thirty years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder, and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, and the Renaissance.


Smellrose

So from what I understand from the last two hours or so Major Biden bit G. Gordon Liddy to death because he wiretapped Matt Gaetz on behalf of Jeffrey Epstein and it's all Dr. Fauci's fault. Is that about right?

EBB
Feb 15, 2005

What, Me Worry?



facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns


Don't know about y'all, but I always typo NYT into FBI, that's definitely a thing I do. I do that all the time. Constantly. Over and over.

https://twitter.com/swin24/status/1377069894513082368

facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 01:50 on Mar 31, 2021

Terrifying Effigies
Oct 22, 2008

Problems look mighty small from 150 miles up.



facialimpediment posted:

Don't know about y'all, but I always typo NYT into FBI, that's definitely a thing I do. I do that all the time. Constantly. Over and over.

https://twitter.com/swin24/status/1377069894513082368

Forget it Jake, it's Chinatown the Deep State

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns


Terrifying Effigies posted:

Forget it Jake, it's Chinatown the Deep State

Here's a timeline update that makes a lot more sense and also explains what Gaetz is trying to bullshit about :

https://twitter.com/lrozen/status/1377072779036594178

I smell Roger Stone in this somewhere, probably advising Gaetz on what to say.

facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 01:54 on Mar 31, 2021

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

Make your move...'cause mine's gonna be ugly.

facialimpediment posted:

Here's a timeline update that makes a lot more sense and also explains what Gaetz is trying to bullshit about :

https://twitter.com/lrozen/status/1377072779036594178

I smell Roger Stone in this somewhere, probably advising Gaetz on what to say.

"Tucker Face" seems to be spreading.

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!


Comrade Blyatlov posted:

i'm kinda happy that's the worst news coming out of the WH

https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/1377080910814806016?s=19

Grip it and rip it
Apr 28, 2020

Be the change you want see in the world


Stultus Maximus posted:

Yes, it's still 1930 and teachers still sit behind desks lecturing perfectly geometric rows of students for 7 hours a day.

Wait is this not a thing? It was definitely a thing at my high and middle schools

Terrifying Effigies
Oct 22, 2008

Problems look mighty small from 150 miles up.



https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1377065621398126594

For once Tucker's perpetually perplexed expression is appropriate.

Eason the Fifth
Apr 9, 2020


Stultus Maximus posted:

Yes, it's still 1930 and teachers still sit behind desks lecturing perfectly geometric rows of students for 7 hours a day.

Modern pedagogy is so much worse tho

BIG HEADLINE posted:

"Tucker Face" seems to be spreading.

I had this very thought. Maddow was rarely good but this is extremely bad.

Eason the Fifth fucked around with this message at 02:37 on Mar 31, 2021

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418



Grip it and rip it posted:

Wait is this not a thing? It was definitely a thing at my high and middle schools

our classrooms were set up for it, tho most teachers tried to be cool by having a stool or sit on their desk or whatever.

without the desk, where the hell do they put their head down when they have a hangover and need a movie day?

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012





Terrifying Effigies posted:

https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1377065621398126594

For once Tucker's perpetually perplexed expression is appropriate.

Lmao the gulp at 22 seconds, tucks a lil worried about who he may have seen hanging around pizzagaetz

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004


Nap Ghost

The real school mews is related to this (tl;dr risk of depriving children of public education is worse than risk of operating schools with universal adherence to PPE and distancing rules):

“The revision was spurred by some new research, including a study published March 10 in the journal Clinical Infectious Diseases, which looked at schools in Massachusetts, where districts were given a choice of distancing students either 6 or 3 feet apart, and where the majority of districts also required universal masking. The study included more than a half-million students who attended school in person last fall.

"We didn't see any substantial difference in cases among students or staff in districts with 3 feet versus 6 feet, suggesting that we can open the schools safely at 3 feet, provided that some of the mitigation measures that were present here in Massachusetts are in place," said Westyn Branch-Elliman, a co-author of the study and an infectious diseases specialist at Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center. "Our study adds to a growing body of worldwide data about the safety of 3 feet in school settings."

The World Health Organization already recommended that schools distance children 1 meter apart (3.3 feet). The American Academy of Pediatrics, meanwhile, has been warning that "in many school settings, 6 feet between students is not feasible without drastically limiting the number of students." As a result, the group has advised flexibility, telling school leaders to "weigh the benefits of strict adherence to a 6-feet spacing rule between students with the potential downside if remote learning is the only alternative."

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012



The Massachusetts school study has serious methodological issues.

https://twitter.com/DiseaseEcology/status/1371346026355851266

Platystemon fucked around with this message at 06:39 on Mar 31, 2021

McNally
Sep 12, 2007

Ask me about Proposition 305


Do you like muskets?


In case you guys didn't get the memo, FrozenVent is an IK for this thread now and he said to stop talking about the school thing.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004


Nap Ghost

E: oops, I did not notice, nevermind.

Fair enough. But still:

https://twitter.com/diseaseecology/status/1371644137804492800?s=21

EBB
Feb 15, 2005

What, Me Worry?


McNally posted:

In case you guys didn't get the memo, FrozenVent is an IK for this thread now and he said to stop talking about the school thing.

THANKS DEBORAH

for responding so quickly to my request the other day it was very nice of you

piL
Sep 20, 2007
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Taco Defender

McNally posted:

In case you guys didn't get the memo, FrozenVent is an IK for this thread now and he said to stop talking about the school thing.

What's IK stand for?

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012



For others who missed the memo, it’s a pinned thread posted today.

McNally posted:

Those of you who pay attention may have noticed that I've expressed some level of frustration with the toxicity running amok in the Current Events thread. To that end I've put together a brute squad to help me clear out the Thieves' Forest keep the CE thread a place where we can talk about current events without coming away with heavy internet toxicity.

I'd like to thank Sarah, Hekk, and FrozenVent for volunteering to help me make their lives demonstrably worse.

A special guest star will be joining them later when their schedule clears up.

Thanks to the new GIP IKs for agreeing to help make subforum 218 the okayest place on the internet.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012



piL posted:

What's IK stand for?

“Idiot King”, originally. Maybe there’s a more polite back-derivation now.

They have moderator buttons to put posters on probation, rename threads, and the other things, but they can’t see reports or the moderator forum.

I think they’re limited to six‐hour probations, but it might be more now.

piL
Sep 20, 2007
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Taco Defender

Ah, thanks!

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004


Nap Ghost

So Gaetz’s plan to respond to an allegation of trafficking a minor is to call a 17 year old a woman and then switch up saying she doesn’t exist with saying a 17 year old with whom he has traveled doesn’t exist while also saying Tucker Carlson met her and also also saying he double trickshot nailed the DOJ via the FBI?

What the fuuuuck?

And part of the Gaetz is defense is to go on record saying he buys his dates good gifts?

This guy may be dumb.

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418



Platystemon posted:

“Idiot King”, originally. Maybe there’s a more polite back-derivation now.

They have moderator buttons to put posters on probation, rename threads, and the other things, but they can’t see reports or the moderator forum.

I think they’re limited to six‐hour probations, but it might be more now.

its more. I think they are up to 12, to make sure there is enough time to get a full mod on the buttons when someone needs to be shut down

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004


Nap Ghost

https://twitter.com/robbysoave/status/1377042983665684488?s=21

1: lmao
2: 18 is age of consent in FL

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 27, 2008

Ba-dam ba-DUMMMMMM



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UP THE BUM NO BABY
Sep 1, 2011

Man-oh-man, Cowboy looks like a bag of leftovers from a V.F.W. barbecue. Of
course, I've got nothing against dead people. Why, some of my best friends are dead

Best Friends posted:

They should not have issued guidance that is literally impossible to follow imo. Posting impossible instructions only makes sense as a green light, especially in a context where governors, the president and the arrayed upper middle class PTA parents are demanding reopening.

I'll stop posting about this now. Feel free to explain how a teacher can stay six feet from everyone in a classroom setting anytime btw.

You keep getting mad at the CDC instead of, idk, the state or the politicians who kept things open instead of providing money and assistance.

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