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McNally
Sep 13, 2007

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What are the odds that the House just goes ahead and passes the Senate bill?

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McNally
Sep 13, 2007

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Can I claim GIP posters as dependents?

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If you guys want to have slapfights where you insult each other and call each other names, take it to PMs.

Disagree with each other all you want, but I'm going to start taking a zero-tolerance stance on the toxicity in this thread if you assholes can't stop smearing poo poo on yourselves.

McNally
Sep 13, 2007

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The important thing to remember is that the current monarchy in the UK is illegitimate and the true king of England is Franz, Duke of Bavaria.

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If the dog riding a bike on a treadmill, will a police aircraft still shoot it?

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MazelTovCocktail posted:

Well apparently it’s not being signed till Friday...like Jesus Christ guys can you just sign the thing today or tomorrow. I mean seriously they can’t print that poo poo out faster?

The printer won't print if it's low on magenta and they haven't made the cartridges Congress uses since 1993.

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I got my 2020 tax return via direct deposit. What are the chances I'll be able to get my stimulus check direct deposit instead of having to wait for a goddamned paper check yet again?

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MazelTovCocktail posted:

Also for the December one it took like 3 or 4 days to get the checks out and in my case actually get it. Even with tax season, it seems like the IRS has the system running pretty smoothly now.

The December one took me more than two weeks from the supposed mailing date before I got it.

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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:

i'm sorry, do you live under a rock? how on earth have you not been paying attention since, gently caress as long as i've been alive at least.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZVArXuN3Bs

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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:

Yeah no, that is a statement that lacks any critical thought behind it and I'm going to call it out.


I'll give you more when you respond to my argument instead of repeating DEMOCRATIC TALKING POINTS WHY DO YOU BELIEVE THEM?!

Like seriously, did you eat paste as a child?

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Call it out without being an rear end in a top hat next time.

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Sep 13, 2007

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Mustang posted:

Sure, and it lost them the House, the Presidency and the Senate.

This is a hugely popular bill and Schumer himself has said Democrats are going to campaign on extending some of it's benefits in 2022.

So what else do you have?

For the record, this is actually pretty dumb.

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Mustang posted:

Oh yeah, why?

Because your entire argument is predicated on "GOP gonna have to defend this choice" as though that's actually something they're going to have to do. Their base isn't going to care and is absolutely going to believe them when they say "democrats did a socialism and socialism bad."

In the midst of a global pandemic that the GOP actively made worse they only just barely lost in 2020.

People didn't elect Biden because he's worth a poo poo. They elected Biden because he wasn't Trump and that's not going to cut it in 2022.

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Sep 13, 2007

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Mustang posted:

Ok, sure. So you think this bill have absolutely no impact on anything whatsoever? Why?

And I haven't cheered one anyone nor I did I ever claim it was the perfect bill that fixes all of our problems. All I said is that I think it's going to change the way American's view things like social welfare.

This bill signals to to the broke-brained right that the Democrats are going to force their own socialist policies through and they need to vote red to stop it.

It signals to progressives that the Democrats are going to compromise on their promises for no reason (e.g. cuts to unemployment benefits and they still got 0 Republican votes) and are not to be trusted, driving down turnout on election day.

This is an argument completely divorced from the fact that there were good things in the bill.

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mlmp08 posted:

The child tax credits are where a lot of the real money is that n this bill.

Say you’re a single parent with two kids who is not rich:

1. You got $2200 from stimulus 1 ($1200+$500*2) and $1800 from stimulus 2 ($600*3) for a total of $4000.

2. You get $4200 from stimulus 3, more than 1 and 2 combined ($1400*3).

3. This doesn’t take into account child care tax credits, which are huge as well.

Focuses on children are where a whole lot of the 1.9T are tied up.

Never mind the EITC and public agency support.

So when you see a take about how the current bill gives less $ than Republican bill, need to note that for that to be true, the take has to be made by someone with no kids who earns too much to qualify for the EITC.

And hey, some of this is confusing. I didn’t start to realize just how stacked this was in favor of childcare and money for parents/kids until it was very close to passage because it’s easier for news and online got takes to focus on the simplest tax situations like direct payments to folks without kids.

"Earns too much for the EITC" is a very very low bar to clear. I worked a summer internship for five months in 2020. The pay for that plus my taxable survivor benefits gave me an income equivalent to working 5 days a week, 8 hours a day, at $9.13 an hour.

I wasn't eligible for EITC.

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mlmp08 posted:

FWIW, since it came up, EITC for people without kids is tripled and available to people who earn about 1/3 more than normal. Still have to be a very low eatner, but it caps out at 21k instead of around 15k qualification amd at $1,500 instead of $540.

Still, this improvement is kind of a testament to the ongoing shotty state of things for people who earn very little.

Should I file an amended return or is that for this tax year?

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Sep 13, 2007

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mlmp08 posted:

I’m no tax lawyer, but everything I can find says this is for 2021 only.

:argh: Foiled again!

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mlmp08 posted:

Ugh, news reports are vague and the IRS hasn’t caught up to the bill.

It’s not clear to me whether the expansion in EITC eligibility and benefits are for tax filing 2021 on 2020 earnings or will be on 2021 earnings filed in 2022.

So... I dunno?

I checked the text of the bill, it's for 2021

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facialimpediment posted:

Edit: change of plan, Biden's signing the bill at 1:30 PM (2PM-ish Biden time)
https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/1370062911218024453

See you guys? Biden absolutely can move left on the calendar

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Sep 13, 2007

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Well that would rule, if true.

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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:

<-- lmao who did this :stwoon:

lol that rules

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rifles posted:

The BidenBucks™ hit my account already!

I'm going nuts on my end. On the one hand, I ought to get direct deposit this time instead of a third check and I made little enough I ought to be in the first wave.

On the other hand, that would require the government to get something of mine right.

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PookBear posted:

lol, they're not there to secure the oil for 'MERICA, oil is just one of the major revenue sources for Saddam. The troops are the to ensure the piddling amount of oil doesn't serve as a lifeline for the Republican Guard. Which is not and never was what is meant by "blood for oil". Though there's a lot to question about the overall strategy and endgame, dropping a handful of troops into key areas to shore up Kuwait is a pretty effective tactic.

Gentlemen, pay attention, now this is the way to shitpost.

Continue, Pook.

McNally
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MazelTovCocktail posted:

Oh if people are interested the IRS status checker is already up.

https://www.irs.gov/coronavirus/get-my-payment

17th for me. I mean I’d love for it to have been Friday or Saturday for massive combined pay and stimulus check deposit to look at, but eh I’ll live.

Same. Good to know it's at least coming via direct deposit though.

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LtCol J. Krusinski posted:

I was a mod for a while. Mods can’t see IP’s, only admins can. Maybe an admin told him that.

Also LOL I was a mod.

Yeah, they'll mod anyone around here.

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Sacrist65 posted:

He's definitely going to the range after this to do manly things and NOT dress in his wife's clothing while scrolling 4chan for content.

Speaking of yikes, maybe not with the "man wearing women's clothing lol" as an insult.

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Sep 13, 2007

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Duped by Duffel Blog, a congressman claims that the VFW and American Legion were labeled hate groups

https://taskandpurpose.com/mandatory-fun/duffel-blog-american-legion-vfw

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UP THE BUM NO BABY posted:

Yeah, despite everything it's fine a good job of retiring and killing cops

:what:

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In case you guys didn't get the memo, FrozenVent is an IK for this thread now and he said to stop talking about the school thing.

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