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mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

Displeased Moo Cow posted:

isn’t ddg just rebadged bing!?

sort of? better privacy. and they incorporate instant answers like google does as well as work with other kbs, i think? anyway if they are useable at all they're worth supporting for the sole reason of not being google tbqh imo


Head Bee Guy posted:

what are the good websites then? so i can save them to return to later.

tbh i started using rss again

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post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

upon further reflection, i feel like evertyhing is just awful these days, op.

Moo Cowabunga
Jun 15, 2009

[Office Worker.




not the awful.app though

Sniep
Mar 28, 2004

All I needed was that fatty blunt...



King of Breakfast
if you put on the tv you can get some insurance commercials which are pretty funny, op

Soricidus
Oct 21, 2010
freedom-hating statist shill

Achmed Jones posted:

same. i am also sick of sites that are either machine generated or written by some content farm employee that doesn't understand the language and takes 500 words to say a ten word sentence. as far as i can tell, basically all sites purporting to be about a general topic (dog training, hair care, whatever) are this way

why is google so bad at punishing blatant seo?

in this post I will reveal why google is bad at punishing blatant seo

we’ve all been there. you search for a thing on google and all the hits seem to be blatant seo sites that waffle on endlessly about your search keywords. but what not many people know is that this is a result of google being bad at punishing blatant seo. why is that? the reason may surprise you

first let’s answer the most fundamental question: what is search?

distortion park
Apr 25, 2011


Soricidus posted:

why is google so bad at punishing blatant seo?

in this post I will reveal why google is bad at punishing blatant seo

we’ve all been there. you search for a thing on google and all the hits seem to be blatant seo sites that waffle on endlessly about your search keywords. but what not many people know is that this is a result of google being bad at punishing blatant seo. why is that? the reason may surprise you

first let’s answer the most fundamental question: what is search?

it's because their engineers are dumb and overpaid op. I'll continue to believe this until they fix it.

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through
as mentioned it’s because their metric of user on site, user clicking ad, etc, hasn’t gone down. besides what are you going to use, something else (that is an example google thought not my own tyvm)

A Wheezy Steampunk
Jul 16, 2006

High School Grads Eligible!

pointsofdata posted:

it's because their engineers are dumb and overpaid op. I'll continue to believe this until they fix it.

google's engineers are so bad that they can't maintain any of their existing products, that's why they cancel things so often, easier than supporting them for more than six months

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

Do people actually use bing for real life searching? I have a friend who works on bing search stuff and he mentioned that the majority of bing usage is for porn.

Best Bi Geek Squid
Mar 25, 2016
I use bing a fair amount because it is the default search engine on the world's most advanced web browser, microsoft chedge

Head Bee Guy
Jun 12, 2011

Retarded for Busting
Grimey Drawer
I have a friend who insists Bing is better for image search.

But goddamn is it annoying trying to find information, but the only thing google serves you is how to buy something tangentially related.

Anyone figure out how to find information? About like products and poo poo?

HappyHippo
Nov 19, 2003
Do you have an Air Miles Card?
why not use the highly trustworthy product reviews on the website you're shopping from?

Archduke Frantz Fanon
Sep 7, 2004

Soricidus posted:

why is google so bad at punishing blatant seo?

in this post I will reveal why google is bad at punishing blatant seo

we’ve all been there. you search for a thing on google and all the hits seem to be blatant seo sites that waffle on endlessly about your search keywords. but what not many people know is that this is a result of google being bad at punishing blatant seo. why is that? the reason may surprise you

first let’s answer the most fundamental question: what is search?

its because they dont care op if you want to beat out toptech.biz’s list of the top 17 butt toucher apps you are welcome to bid for adwords to go on top

HappyHippo
Nov 19, 2003
Do you have an Air Miles Card?
how can anyone work in seo i would hate myself

i guess if you have no other job prospects and need to put food on the table, but otherwise...

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp
you're not getting 'food' on the table with seo, you're getting a single origin grass fed steak

the money is flyin' there

pram
Jun 10, 2001
university of phoenix certificate in SEO

matti
Mar 31, 2019

i use startpage.com and when once in a while i end up on google.com im startled how loving awful it is to use

its bad

matti
Mar 31, 2019

ideology aside it had a pretty decent user interface even like 5 years ago? now its just a very busy (busier) mess trying to do ten things at the same time

matti
Mar 31, 2019

i don't event want to know what it'd look like if i turned off adblock christ

Winty
Sep 22, 2007

double post oops

Winty fucked around with this message at 07:05 on Mar 13, 2021

President Beep
Apr 30, 2009





i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)

Head Bee Guy posted:

what are the good websites then? so i can save them to return to later.

the uninstall wizard

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
mostly if im looking for something i just ask my online pals and someone usually has it bookmarked

Chumbawumba4ever97
Dec 31, 2000

by Fluffdaddy
Even searching in the Chrome address bar for previous sites sucks rear end. I visit my electric company's website once a month and no matter what Chrome will never show it to me as I am typing the site out. It does that to me with sites I visit multiple times per week ffs.

Meanwhile a website I visited once fourteen years ago will auto populate in Firefox just fine

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

yes op that's why I use duck duck go

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

tbh the hardest goog product to dump has been maps. there's somehow no viable alternatives other than pulling out my phone and using apple maps

and YouTube I guess but that's kinda different

Buck Turgidson
Feb 6, 2011

𓀬𓀠𓀟𓀡𓀢𓀣𓀤𓀥𓀞𓀬
before i had anything approaching a reasonable data allowance (i had 150mb per month in 2016) I used to draw a map with directions if I needed to get somewhere. I couldn't use my phone off WiFi or id blow the data allowance instantly

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

Bloody posted:

apple maps

lol

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

lol all you want but they’ve dumped a poo poo load of cash into improving it. i use it as much as possible these days and rarely have an issue with it. i don’t even have it on my phone. this is a relatively populated area tho.

the mac application is good too but hard to break the muscle memory of browsering over to google

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

mediaphage posted:

lol all you want but they’ve dumped a poo poo load of cash into improving it. i use it as much as possible these days and rarely have an issue with it. i don’t even have it on my phone. this is a relatively populated area tho.

the mac application is good too but hard to break the muscle memory of browsering over to google

i just searched for the exact name, in chinese, of a local japanese restaurant in my neighborhood. apple maps helpfully zoomed me over to a mountain with a different name that’s a homonym of the restaurant i searched, but very clearly not the same name or chinese characters. the mountain is 150km away and in a different city, so it updated my search area to this new city until i manually pulled it back to my location

Hugh G. Rectum
Mar 1, 2011

if there's one benefit to living in the bay area, it's that apple maps actually works really well here for some mysterious reason. so odd.

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

fart simpson posted:

i just searched for the exact name, in chinese, of a local japanese restaurant in my neighborhood. apple maps helpfully zoomed me over to a mountain with a different name that’s a homonym of the restaurant i searched, but very clearly not the same name or chinese characters. the mountain is 150km away and in a different city, so it updated my search area to this new city until i manually pulled it back to my location

i freely admit my position is biased since i only have to search for english and french i guess?

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

it probably works better outside china

Soricidus
Oct 21, 2010
freedom-hating statist shill

fart simpson posted:

i just searched for the exact name, in chinese, of a local japanese restaurant in my neighborhood. apple maps helpfully zoomed me over to a mountain with a different name that’s a homonym of the restaurant i searched, but very clearly not the same name or chinese characters. the mountain is 150km away and in a different city, so it updated my search area to this new city until i manually pulled it back to my location

apple just rolling over and giving in to anti-japanese sentiments eh

god google maps sucks rear end these days tho. no gently caress you I don’t want to ~explore the neighborhood~ I want to see a loving map without your lovely cruft covering half the screen

A Wheezy Steampunk
Jul 16, 2006

High School Grads Eligible!

Chumbawumba4ever97 posted:

Even searching in the Chrome address bar for previous sites sucks rear end. I visit my electric company's website once a month and no matter what Chrome will never show it to me as I am typing the site out. It does that to me with sites I visit multiple times per week ffs.

Meanwhile a website I visited once fourteen years ago will auto populate in Firefox just fine

google is an advertising company and forcing you to search for everything is one way they show you more ads

don't use a web browser made by an advertising company

Soricidus posted:

god google maps sucks rear end these days tho. no gently caress you I don’t want to ~explore the neighborhood~ I want to see a loving map without your lovely cruft covering half the screen

my "favorite" thing is all the ads they show in the map itself, like special pins on dunkin donuts or whoever else is shoveling millions of dollars into google's coffers

HappyHippo
Nov 19, 2003
Do you have an Air Miles Card?

Soricidus posted:

god google maps sucks rear end these days tho. no gently caress you I don’t want to ~explore the neighborhood~ I want to see a loving map without your lovely cruft covering half the screen

yeah gently caress this poo poo

carry on then
Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

(and can't post for 10 years!)

fart simpson posted:

it probably works better outside china

are there any china-based map services in wide use? i'd be surprised if it'd be too difficult to do better maps of china than some bay-area westerners

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

carry on then posted:

are there any china-based map services in wide use? i'd be surprised if it'd be too difficult to do better maps of china than some bay-area westerners

gotta assume baidu has a map app?

PIZZA.BAT
Nov 12, 2016


:cheers:


HappyHippo posted:

google+ was about the point when i realized that google the company sucks
all that underhanded poo poo they did to get people signed up was because it was some executive's project and he wanted bigger numbers to look good. also having things you do on other sites show up as activity in google+ (like youtube comments) so they could claim to have more daily users.

agreed. that was the moment i realized they could arbitrarily decide to start loving with me and all interactions with them started with defensive thinking first and foremost. same thing happened to me with facebook in the very early days when they would add new privacy features that superceded older ones defaulting to settings which would override your previous choices. i deleted my account a few years after that

PIZZA.BAT
Nov 12, 2016


:cheers:


Soricidus posted:

why is google so bad at punishing blatant seo?

in this post I will reveal why google is bad at punishing blatant seo

we’ve all been there. you search for a thing on google and all the hits seem to be blatant seo sites that waffle on endlessly about your search keywords. but what not many people know is that this is a result of google being bad at punishing blatant seo. why is that? the reason may surprise you

first let’s answer the most fundamental question: what is search?

lol

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post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

Bloody posted:

tbh the hardest goog product to dump has been maps. there's somehow no viable alternatives other than pulling out my phone and using apple maps

and YouTube I guess but that's kinda different

yeah ddg/bing maps is dogshit

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