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By popular demand
Jul 17, 2007
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Geisladisk posted:

SovCits are a American phenomenon, but there is a German parallel.

They claim that there never was a legal transfer of power from the Third Reich to the East and West Germanies, and therefore the transfer to modern united Germany was illegal, meaning that the Federal Republic of Germany is a non-entity and they are therefore not bound by it's laws.

They use this amazing power for what you'd expect, i.e trying to wriggle out of parking tickets.


If being annihilated by warring nations doesn't count as a legal transfer of power then there's no Germany or any other modern state.

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Hammerite
Mar 9, 2007

And you don't remember what I said here, either, but it was pompous and stupid.
Jade Ear Joe
to argue about the specifics of why they're wrong is to miss the bigger issue, which is that even if their arguments were watertight, it wouldn't matter. you can't prove with cunning pedantry that the laws actually work this way if all the people and institutions involved in interpreting and enforcing the law in your country are in agreement that no, actually they work some other way. the way laws work is the way society as a whole agrees that they work, not the way you want them to work, not even if you are the cleverest person ever. you can be as correct as you want in your own mind about how the law works but still be in prison because no-one agrees

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Hammerite posted:

to argue about the specifics of why they're wrong is to miss the bigger issue, which is that even if their arguments were watertight, it wouldn't matter. you can't prove with cunning pedantry that the laws actually work this way if all the people and institutions involved in interpreting and enforcing the law in your country are in agreement that no, actually they work some other way. the way laws work is the way society as a whole agrees that they work, not the way you want them to work, not even if you are the cleverest person ever. you can be as correct as you want in your own mind about how the law works but still be in prison because no-one agrees

This is probably the best summation of the problem with sovcit thought I've seen.

Colonel Cancer
Sep 26, 2015

Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon

By popular demand posted:

If being annihilated by warring nations doesn't count as a legal transfer of power then there's no Germany or any other modern state.

Very wise thought, all nations are but fiction, there's only people :downs:

By popular demand
Jul 17, 2007
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:anarchists:

wesleywillis
Dec 30, 2016

SUCK A MALE CAMEL'S DICK WITH MIRACLE WHIP!!

1redflag posted:

Lol, only noobs demand fiat currency

At least Fiat owns Chrysler, so its 'murican.

Thats got to be better than say Hyundai currency.

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Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

Hammerite posted:

to argue about the specifics of why they're wrong is to miss the bigger issue, which is that even if their arguments were watertight, it wouldn't matter. you can't prove with cunning pedantry that the laws actually work this way if all the people and institutions involved in interpreting and enforcing the law in your country are in agreement that no, actually they work some other way. the way laws work is the way society as a whole agrees that they work, not the way you want them to work, not even if you are the cleverest person ever. you can be as correct as you want in your own mind about how the law works but still be in prison because no-one agrees

Unless you're extremely rich, of course, in which case those pesky old laws and tax regulations pretty much bounce off you like you've got a force field

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