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I've heard it described as 'legal homeopathy', and similarly popular among people who can't afford or don't trust the regulated proper thing that actually works. The reason the whole mentality is hilarious is because it's a total misunderstanding of the nature of power and the legal system. They literally think they have One Weird Trick to make the cops throw an error and apologise and go away because you said the magic words, that there's a real legal system they don't tell you about that you just need to invoke. Even when being tazed and thrown in jail they don't understand that the cops don't actually need a reason to arrest and/or beat the poo poo out of you, and that overall the legal system is a social construct that works at the discretion of individual humans in positions of power, who don't work like fae of myth who can be foiled by saying their names backwards. It does occasionally show up overseas, and is hilarious because it usually uses the exact same poo poo as Americans do, bringing up things like Miranda Rights and the Constitution in countries where they aren't in the slightest relevant.
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In other words, literally the way that contracts with supernatural beings work, complete with how they only have power over you if they know your true name.
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I still say it's closest to 'alternative medicine' for the law. Can and often does be an element of cults and scams, but at its core it's basically its own nebulous but distinct form of hokum that appeal to people who get the thrill of knowing the secret truth of the world that authorities are trying to conceal from them, no matter how many times it catastrophically collides with reality.
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Hammerite posted:to argue about the specifics of why they're wrong is to miss the bigger issue, which is that even if their arguments were watertight, it wouldn't matter. you can't prove with cunning pedantry that the laws actually work this way if all the people and institutions involved in interpreting and enforcing the law in your country are in agreement that no, actually they work some other way. the way laws work is the way society as a whole agrees that they work, not the way you want them to work, not even if you are the cleverest person ever. you can be as correct as you want in your own mind about how the law works but still be in prison because no-one agrees This is probably the best summation of the problem with sovcit thought I've seen.
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