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Regy Rusty
Apr 26, 2010

How do you actually use the "Definite Human" and "Definite Enemy" skills. I've unlocked them and I have the logic stat necessary, but I never seem to see them as an option. I may just never have gotten the in the moment prerequisites for them but I guess I'm not 100% sure what those are.

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Regy Rusty
Apr 26, 2010

So is there any kind of strategy that I should go about turning on and off roles? It looks like the main reason I haven't seen it come up is I've never turned AC follower back off, and that adds so much more room for doubt. I've just been going with max people, 3 gnosia, and all roles for a bit now.

I did just finally unlock the bug I was the bug and I won by complete accident since I didn't even know, I assume this is not too unusual.

Regy Rusty
Apr 26, 2010

Lmao I had a run where Shigemichi was for some reason an un CCed Day 1 Engineer. They all still did their best to lose by sometimes following the blatantly obvious Gnosia in voting off randos but he and I corralled them to victory in the end.

Regy Rusty
Apr 26, 2010

Remember that you have an advantage none of these chuckleheads have - a functioning brain. You don't have magical lie spotting powers but you can spot patterns and weird things that they're literally incapable of. Make use of it.

Regy Rusty
Apr 26, 2010

Basically Comet likely picked up on a lie from Remnan and went in too hard causing others to doubt her in turn. Note that with all Gnosia and both liars voting for her, she would've had a hard time regardless. I dunno how the order of events went, but I wouldn't be surprised if some of the more persuasive liars accused her and swayed some weak willed others and a bandwagon formed. That can happen and sometimes there's just not much you can do about it! I just lost a game because a particularly chaotic bug Chipie kept swapping his suspicions and I just couldn't get people to focus on him and the last Gnosia.

Regy Rusty
Apr 26, 2010

The biggest adjustment for me in this game was coming to terms with the fact that the actual most important thing is to keep yourself alive. When I used to play Mafia I was very much the type who went all in hard with little regard for my own life because even if I got taken out, if I could rustle enough feathers my team could still win. Realizing that that's just not an option here really makes you reevaluate how you wanna go about it and when it's most important to try to force your agenda through.

Regy Rusty
Apr 26, 2010

The single most satisfying action you can take in this is telling Gnosia Yuriko to shut up.

Regy Rusty
Apr 26, 2010

Lmao I just had a hilarious loss where I was collaborating with Gnosia SQ and she decided to keep me alive as her sex slave because she liked me so much. :allears:

This is a good game

Regy Rusty
Apr 26, 2010

I know the AC Follower role is kind of dumb and busted, but it still blew my mind here when Sha-Ming collaborated with me and staunchly backed me up against the blatantly Gnosia Otome.

Regy Rusty
Apr 26, 2010

Lol the very next round using the same setup the exact same thing happened, except this time Sha-Ming was the bug so he actually won.

Regy Rusty
Apr 26, 2010

Alright I've been spamming Event search for a while but have kind of dried up in new leads. I was following a bunch of hints with Setsu for a while but those have ceased and now I have a handful of outstanding character sheet slots that need filling in. I have an idea of where I'm heading towards with the ending, but I still gotta finish these first. I dunno if it's possible but is there anyway I can get some hints with some of these?

SQ: 1. Her third one, where I can be any role. No idea.
2. Her 5th one where I need to be Gnosia. I thought maybe I needed to collaborate with her when she's human, or be on the same team as her as Gnosia but I don't THINK either of those has worked. There may be some other requirement involving victory but I'm not sure all the variations I've tried out.


Setsu: 1. Their last one where I need to be human. I'm kind of guessing this may be one of the last ones to start wrapping things up towards the ending but I'm not sure. I have tried collaborating with them just in case but haven't had anything pop.

Otome: 1. Her third one where I can be any role. No idea. E: Never mind this one popped up!

Remnan: 1. His fourth one where I can be any role. No idea.
2. His fifth one where I need to be human. My guess is I need to collaborate with him but I haven't yet even managed to do that. He always seems to hate me lmao.


And that's it, I've filled in everyone else so far. Any little pointers would be appreciated.

E: Setsu just chimed in again at the end of a loop and told me we needed some sort of "special condition" and now the event search doesn't work. :ohdear:

Regy Rusty fucked around with this message at 17:36 on Apr 7, 2021

Regy Rusty
Apr 26, 2010

Oooooh I got past my last stumbling block.

Fiddling with the settings and finding the new option by accident was pretty funny!

Regy Rusty
Apr 26, 2010

Yeah I got that one, thanks for the other tips! I'll work on SQ for now and then see if I can get Remnan to work.

Regy Rusty
Apr 26, 2010

Ahh I finally figured out why I was stuck for so long on the last few characters.

The unmarked event I was missing from both SQ and Remnan was in fact the exact same one where SQ calls Reman her father. This is then a prerequisite for both SQ and Remnan's final events, which is why they weren't popping. I just kept having bad luck of not having the right combination of characters alive and in acceptable roles for the other even to show up. I'm on track now yay!

Regy Rusty
Apr 26, 2010

And I'm finished! Plus I got the true ending. Good game!

Regy Rusty
Apr 26, 2010

Yeah I can think of that and one other challenge that are probably the two hardest to pull off in the game. Very satisfying once you succeed though.

Regy Rusty
Apr 26, 2010

Regy Rusty posted:

Lmao I just had a hilarious loss where I was collaborating with Gnosia SQ and she decided to keep me alive as her sex slave because she liked me so much. :allears:

This is a good game

I want to revisit this post, now that I've done everything and say (ending spoilers)I had no idea how literal, and horrifying, the "sex slave" thing was when I posted it. This is not hilarious at all.

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Regy Rusty
Apr 26, 2010

Saint Freak posted:

Started this past weekend and put in about 40 loops or so.


One of the last games I played it gets down to me, Jonas, Chipie. I caught Chipie in a lie and I know it's him, but neither of them like me very much and I see this ending poorly.

Day starts, Jonas claims cop and that Chipie is scum. Ok well mathematically they both can't be so whatever guess the cop lived this long.


Crew wins. Jonas flips AC Follower. AC Follower that just torpedoed everything in the very last moment for no reason.

AC Follower do be that way

Regy Rusty posted:

I know the AC Follower role is kind of dumb and busted, but it still blew my mind here when Sha-Ming collaborated with me and staunchly backed me up against the blatantly Gnosia Otome.


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