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AnacondaHL posted:I'm actually stunned by this. Something has gone awry. Not only is the BG invitational tournament tomorrow, but this is just past the deadline for GM decklist submission. Something has to give, either they told GMs beforehand of the changes, or this patch will only be BGs, but then the changes drop during the tournament... I have to assume they won’t be using the new patch for the tournament because lol Though the players having to adjust to the changes without practice could be neat. Or they drop the patch in the middle of the tourney. Vvv I misread it RatHat fucked around with this message at 21:52 on May 11, 2021 |
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RatHat posted:The notes being out tomorrow doesn’t mean the patch will be. What does "PATCH AND patch notes are coming tomorrow mean" where you come from?
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# ? May 11, 2021 21:50 |
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The HS team has been putting out good content in the past year, but it's pretty damning how poorly playtested everything seem to be. From new bugs on top of longstanding ones and awful balancing, it just seems like there's terrible management going on. Them not being able to reveal changes they announced a week ago, days before major events is just part of an ongoing trend. Like, is the game not enough of a moneyprinter that they can budget in some QA?
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# ? May 11, 2021 22:14 |
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Lutha Mahtin posted:I don't understand what thing/aspect of the tweet is being complained about by the person that I quoted poor management of timing regarding the patch and this tournament, as I understood it - that sort of thing has become commonplace in blizzard products. now, if you're questioning the level of vitriol rather than its source, I might've been a little less angry, idk. but I'll double down on the claim that blizzard has been, on the balance, making GBS threads the bed for the past several years
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# ? May 11, 2021 22:23 |
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I mean, obviously they have. WoW is whatever, overwatch might as well be dead, SC2 has been abandoned, HotS is literally dead, sc remastered was forgotten in a week, and reforged was the worst disaster of all. HS is actually developed more or less as if it were owned by a responsible company with more new content released than any direct competitor (and equivalently more mistakes). Like out of the total mess that was the auto chess debacle somehow they came out with one that's actually somewhat successful.
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# ? May 11, 2021 22:30 |
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gandlethorpe posted:Like, is the game not enough of a moneyprinter that they can budget in some QA? If you do that you don’t get to keep as much as of the money
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DeadButDelicious posted:Same I bought him because I love WoW Dadgar - is the same VA? At this rate I'm just happy not to put up with Jaina. Now if they can release Madame Lazul so I can swap out Tyrande that'd be great! They haven’t relisted any of the heroes that only come from expansion preorders yet, just ones from one-off promos.
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# ? May 11, 2021 22:43 |
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It's hilarious how much poo poo the dev team still gets when the game and communication is better than it ever was under Ben Brode. Literally have multiple game modes now, a free core set, frequent balance patches, cosmetics purchasable with gold, etc.
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# ? May 11, 2021 22:45 |
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When you work at a company that does a lot of dev work, you can only work with the resources you're given. If Blizz cuts QA and playtesting budgets but still needs you to meet your release schedule and hit your revenue goals, there's going to be a lot of poo poo that falls through the cracks. Them not having access to the localization team for their patch notes because that team is probably behind on some of the work they're working on makes sense to me.
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# ? May 11, 2021 22:51 |
Firebert posted:It's hilarious how much poo poo the dev team still gets when the game and communication is better than it ever was under Ben Brode. Literally have multiple game modes now, a free core set, frequent balance patches, cosmetics purchasable with gold, etc. Well they upped the responsibilities too, with GMs and these big prize pool invitationals, so of course if they mess it up they will get more poo poo. And a big part of why were are in this situation today is because of the lack of communication all through yesterday about the patch. It's like they reverted to those Brode days.
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# ? May 11, 2021 22:53 |
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I think it would be good for the company to have a consistent and reliable e-sports scene, both for the viewers and for any players who are stupid enough to commit to a game like this. Especially when they gently caress up a transition like this in which most people feel miserable after facing 10x Paladin or spell Mage.
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# ? May 11, 2021 22:58 |
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Firebert posted:It's hilarious how much poo poo the dev team still gets when the game and communication is better than it ever was under Ben Brode. Every so often I think back to "we're still gathering data on Spirit Claws/the playerbase just hasn't experimented with Priest enough" and think, yeah, the dev team has gotten better.
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Blooming Brilliant posted:Every so often I think back to "we're still gathering data on Spirit Claws/the playerbase just hasn't experimented with Priest enough" and think, yeah, the dev team has gotten better. The weird stance on limited deck slots was the biggest moment for me. Like that had another page of decks for basic stuff so I never thought it was actually development limited. And they always had the ability to limit deck building to certain milestone. Seriously what was up with that?
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# ? May 11, 2021 23:06 |
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At least with Quillboars being broken it gave me the opportunity to get a win with SkycappnKrag and Hooktusk for the achievement. Still trying to sneak a win with Bigglesworth (I know it should be easy but I've failed on the two occasions I was offered him) and Lich Queen before the nerfs come
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# ? May 12, 2021 00:17 |
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Diamond 10-5 is why otherwise sane people play Priest???
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# ? May 12, 2021 02:07 |
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I'm trying the zoolock someone posted a few pages ago and oh my lord this deck already feels MUCH better with two Brittlebone Destroyers. I took out Neeru and a Blood Shard Bristleback to put them in.
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skaboomizzy posted:I'm trying the zoolock someone posted a few pages ago and oh my lord this deck already feels MUCH better with two Brittlebone Destroyers. I took out Neeru and a Blood Shard Bristleback to put them in. Might try that. I got a Neeru today so put him in but he just kind of sits in my hand. I also really suck with the deck. What's the strategy?
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Strawberry Panda posted:Might try that. I got a Neeru today so put him in but he just kind of sits in my hand. Someone better than me (so literally anyone here) will have a better strategy but I think it's just overwhelming the opponent through hero power, card draw, and board control. The Spirit Jailers are good because four Soul Shards is just about right for healing from draws, plus the Man'ari Moshers giving +3 attack and lifesteal to a minion for one turn can be a nice swing turn. And now that I've got those two Brittlebones in there, it's "destroy a minion for 6 mana plus a 3/3 body and draw a card" twice a game. I haven't played warlock in a good long while, I'm looking forward to trying this one out.
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I quit during Descent of Dragons and came back got Barrens for...reasons? So i missed the original demon hunter stuff and just sorta stumbled on the otk deck tuned with new cards. It does pretty ok. I’m still in the upper golds, but it is sooooo satisfying killing emote spammers (rage invites are just The only decks that really give me a problem are high-rolling spell mages and god-draw Pallies. Rush warriors can’t do a thing, priests gently caress around all day while you draw your combo, everything else is solitaire with the occasional removal. ### otk # Class: Demon Hunter # Format: Standard # Year of the Gryphon # # 2x (1) Double Jump # 2x (1) Ethereal Augmerchant # 2x (1) Felosophy # 2x (1) Felscream Blast # 2x (1) Illidari Studies # 1x (2) Bloodmage Thalnos # 2x (2) Chaos Strike # 2x (2) Immolation Aura # 2x (2) Mo'arg Artificer # 2x (2) Spectral Sight # 2x (2) Talented Arcanist # 1x (3) Acrobatics # 2x (3) Aldrachi Warblades # 2x (3) Eye Beam # 1x (4) Il'gynoth # 1x (4) Raging Felscreamer # 2x (6) Skull of Gul'dan # AAECAaarBATQ3QPZ3gPUnwSXoAQN4L4D6b4D2cYD1tEDztID3dMDx90D8+MDlegDg58Etp8EtKAE7KAEAA== # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
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Doji Sekushi posted:I quit during Descent of Dragons and came back got Barrens for...reasons? So i missed the original demon hunter stuff and just sorta stumbled on the otk deck tuned with new cards. It does pretty ok. I’m still in the upper golds, but it is sooooo satisfying killing emote spammers (rage invites are just For the dumb ones in the thread: what's the otk here? Ilygnoth, double artificer, felscream blast?
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L0cke17 posted:For the dumb ones in the thread: what's the otk here? Could do it with eye beams and the warblades - any lifesteal damage hits your opponent so if you buff your weapon enough it hits them twice.
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# ? May 12, 2021 04:58 |
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I like playing Battlegrounds. Quillboars are too strong. I use Quillboars constantly. (happy birthday Shwqa)
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L0cke17 posted:For the dumb ones in the thread: what's the otk here? Here's a cheat sheet for Felscream/eyebeam damage conditioned on how much spell damage and how many Mo'args you have.
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That's quite handy, thanks. Will give it a spin again now that Kurtrus has made DH not so insufferable for me.
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Bogart posted:I like playing Battlegrounds. Quillboars are too strong. I use Quillboars constantly. I just hope that they try to tweak other tribes instead of nerfing Quillboars too hard. They're really fun to play, and they're the first tribe (elementals to a lesser degree maybe) where there's a bunch of different ways you can approach them rather than being dependent on how close you get to a specific ideal build. Most of the existing tribes have one key scaling unit, so their builds end up very samey (and also more highrolly in a way since they're almost completely dependent on finding Kalegos or Goldrinn or whatever).
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skaboomizzy posted:I'm trying the zoolock someone posted a few pages ago and oh my lord this deck already feels MUCH better with two Brittlebone Destroyers. I took out Neeru and a Blood Shard Bristleback to put them in. That was me and thank you for working on it! Brittlebones make sense and Neeru was always a dead card in my hand. I haven't really played with it much, I was hoping other people would work on it while I did other things.
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I'm excited for the mystery patch to hit.
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Bogart posted:I like playing Battlegrounds. Quillboars are too strong. I use Quillboars constantly. You remembered
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# ? May 12, 2021 16:00 |
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Drafted a gross druid Not pictured: 1x stormwind champ, 2x forest aids, 1x ysera, 1x scrapyard colossus(drawn once, never played)
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I have not played this version at all but I about to toss it at Diamond 9, let's roll the dice, I'll get back to y'all in 5-10 games: ### NewLock # Class: Warlock # Format: Standard # Year of the Gryphon # # 2x (0) Raise Dead # 2x (1) Animated Broomstick # 2x (1) Flame Imp # 2x (1) Spirit Jailer # 2x (1) Tour Guide # 2x (2) Darkglare # 1x (2) Kanrethad Ebonlocke # 2x (3) Backfire # 2x (3) Blood Shard Bristleback # 1x (3) Kabal Outfitter # 2x (3) Man'ari Mosher # 1x (3) Mankrik # 2x (4) Brittlebone Destroyer # 2x (4) Nightshade Matron # 1x (5) Envoy Rustwix # 2x (6) Hand of Gul'dan # 2x (8) Flesh Giant # AAECAa35AwTWuQP24wPv7QPn8AMNtbkDtrkDy7kDlc0Dm80D1s4D184DwdEDzNIDk94Dk+QD8O0DhKAEAA== # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
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# ? May 12, 2021 16:19 |
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Patch notes up Some creative standard nerfs!
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# ? May 12, 2021 17:03 |
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Nerfs and buffs: https://www.hearthstonetopdecks.com/patch-20-2-2-nerfs-buffs-battlegrounds-changes/quote:CONSTRUCTED NERFS
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# ? May 12, 2021 17:03 |
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The nerfs to first day of school and crabrider are better than I thought they would be, they are still viable cards but remove their major pain points. I just assumed that they would kill them both. No nerf to weapon rogue is very surprising. For the buffs, the change to Lurker is probably the most impactful. Unbound Elemental maybe ok in an aggro deck, might be another good cheap overload card away. N'zoth - idk, not a lot of decks can get great value out of it, the minion variety isn't there right now. Zoo did not get any real help, that's sad. With the hysteria nerf, Warlock looks like dogshit. Firebert fucked around with this message at 17:16 on May 12, 2021 |
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drat they completely murdered quillboars Big push for Elemental Shaman.
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# ? May 12, 2021 17:10 |
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I'm loving astonished they didn't touch Conviction.
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N'zoth being the only Old God that costs 9 feels weird. I kinda would rather they didn't touch it.
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# ? May 12, 2021 17:15 |
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I really like the first day... nerf. Gives me extra chances to roll stunner in secret paladin!
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orangelex44 posted:I'm loving astonished they didn't touch Conviction. In today's game the card is powerful but fair, and rewards having a good board and is healthy gameplay. edit: and statistically there is nothing special about the card. AnacondaHL fucked around with this message at 17:20 on May 12, 2021 |
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# ? May 12, 2021 17:18 |
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holy crap that's a ton of quillboar nerfs. Whatever metric they were evaluating must have been going nuts. I'm surprised roadhog and prophet got hit, those were not what I thought of as exceptional cards.
No Wave fucked around with this message at 17:22 on May 12, 2021 |
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I guess they want to see how fair Conviction is when Crabrider doesn't have windfury to double the face damage.
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