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dantheman650 posted:That's patently untrue. When playing as a character in a role playing game, you absolutely have personal and group goals. If there's a monster, your goal is to kill it. If there's a villain, your goal is to prevent them from carrying out their plans. If there's a problem, your goal is to solve it. No that's a pretty narrow view of games. Not every game needs to be "kill the monster". Think of it like Sim City. You build your little city and imagine what and why things are changing. Then an earthquake-volcano-asteriod hits and you need to start over. TQY is Sim City.
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dantheman650 posted:That's patently untrue. When playing as a character in a role playing game, you absolutely have personal and group goals. If there's a monster, your goal is to kill it. If there's a villain, your goal is to prevent them from carrying out their plans. If there's a problem, your goal is to solve it. 
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dantheman650 posted:Again, I'm down with this, but it is in no way a "game" and it feels weird to call it one. But I'm just picking at nits - it doesn't really matter. Yeah it's not really a game, just a set of rules and decks of prompts that someone put together to guide people along a process to create interesting histories and worlds that make some internal sense ImPureAwesome fucked around with this message at 16:32 on May 11, 2021 |
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imho if i'm not running to the right and jumping on a goomba, it ain't a game
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Zero One posted:No that's a pretty narrow view of games. Not every game needs to be "kill the monster". Wow, way to completely ignore the next two sentences: dantheman650 posted:If there's a villain, your goal is to prevent them from carrying out their plans. If there's a problem, your goal is to solve it. Zero One posted:Think of it like Sim City. You build your little city and imagine what and why things are changing. In Sim City, you have a goal. The goal is (usually) to create a city that can grow and create a safe and productive space for residents to live. If you don't like that goal, you can come up with your own goal. By playing it, you are almost certainly working toward something. All I am saying is I don't quite understand what The Quiet Year is working toward. ImPureAwesome posted:Yeah it's not really a game, just a set of rules and a decks of prompts that someone put together to guide people along a process to create interesting histories and worlds that make some internal sense Agreed, and I think it's just fine and enjoyable at doing this!
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dantheman650 posted:All I am saying is I don't quite understand what The Quiet Year is working toward. dantheman650 posted:In TQY, you have a goal. The goal is (usually) to create a city that can grow and create a safe and productive space for residents to live. If you don't like that goal, you can come up with your own goal. By playing it, you are almost certainly working toward something.
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May 11, 2021 16:31
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Alaois posted:he's also the reason you can't edit posts on tumblr anymore you can't just throw something like this out there, what's the story?
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Is the work they put into worldbuilding then going to become the backdrop for their D&D campaign? I really like that approach
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dantheman650 posted:If there's a monster, your goal is to kill it. or chat with it, bluff it, befriend it, ignore it, flee from it, any number of other things. dantheman650 posted:If there's a villain, your goal is to prevent them from carrying out their plans. or join with them, or ignore the plans, etc. dantheman650 posted:If there's a problem, your goal is to solve it. or exacerbate it, or ignore it, etc. I think you're thinking of Dragon's Lair.
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Man I missed game system arguments. Pathfinder when?
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change my name posted:Is the work they put into worldbuilding then going to become the backdrop for their D&D campaign? I really like that approach Yes.
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I think the thought dantheman is trying to express is that most games have some sort of problem you are trying to solve or overarching thing you are trying to do and they weren't sure what TQY's one is. The answer is it's trying to build up a community that can survive the Bad Stuff that will happen after the year ends. In this particular case it's building an underwater city to survive the land becoming uninhabitable. There aren't "stakes" in that it's taken as a given that the players will manage this since the setting for the next campaign is underwater city and not everyone in the world is dead. But the interest comes from how they will do it and what sort of backdrop it will form later on. It's like watching an action movie, you know the good guy is going to survive and win but you still want to see how it happens!
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change my name posted:Is the work they put into worldbuilding then going to become the backdrop for their D&D campaign? I really like that approach yeah, it's a cool system and i think the show will be better with people other than griffin immediately feeling some attachment and ownership to the world TQY is like doing a session zero but for worldbuilding instead of character making
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May 11, 2021 16:50
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dantheman650 posted:If there's a problem, your goal is to solve it. And if there's a beat the DJs goal is to revolve it
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What would you call "A Quiet Year" if not a game?
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TQY is absolutely a game. The "goal" is to have fun with your friends crafting a unique community that will inevitably end in tragedy. Games without clear, objective goals beyond that aren't an alien concept. It's not even that dissimilar from something like Fiasco. Actually... trying to exclusively define what is or isn't a game feels useless as hell
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Sankara posted:What would you call "A Quiet Year" if not a game? I dunno, a prompt-based group narrative builder? I am not great at naming things. Empty Sandwich posted:or chat with it, bluff it, befriend it, ignore it, flee from it, any number of other things. I was just giving a few examples. The main point was you know which one you're trying to do and I don't for A Quiet Year. Organza Quiz posted:I think the thought dantheman is trying to express is that most games have some sort of problem you are trying to solve or overarching thing you are trying to do and they weren't sure what TQY's one is. The answer is it's trying to build up a community that can survive the Bad Stuff that will happen after the year ends. This helps though.
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Organza Quiz posted:I think the thought dantheman is trying to express is that most games have some sort of problem you are trying to solve or overarching thing you are trying to do and they weren't sure what TQY's one is. The answer is it's trying to build up a community that can survive the Bad Stuff that will happen after the year ends. Maybe I'm misunderstanding the game because I just learned about it, but doesn't The Quiet Year end with the frost elves or whatever coming and killing the world you just built? In the original game, it just ends there, there's no post-game survival element as far as I know. It's a bit perplexing to me what makes a game like that fun on its own, but to each their own.
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My reading has always been that in a vanilla game of TQY, the coming of the "Frost Shepherds" (however you want to define them or whatever y'all want to re-flavor the impending doom as) ends the game, but doesn't necessarily mean everyone dies in a world-ending apocalypse. E: from Avery Alder, TQY creator: quote:The Frost Shepherds are left as an ominous unknown for a lot of reasons. scopes fucked around with this message at 18:35 on May 11, 2021 |
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dantheman650 posted:I was just giving a few examples. The main point was you know which one you're trying to do and I don't for A Quiet Year. I'd argue that the goal is to have fun, whatever that means, within an agreed-upon set of rules. in game terms, the goal is to make an RPG background. I think we might just be operating from slightly different definitions of game, though. the writeup is neat: https://buriedwithoutceremony.com/the-quiet-year
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Pham Nuwen posted:you can't just throw something like this out there, what's the story?  fishingboatproceeds was john green's tumblr and after someone edited one of his posts to be what you're seeing now, tumblr removed the ability to edit posts from the website entirely e: also im glad this thread has finally reached 2011-era roleplaying game forum level "but what is a game?????" The Quiet Year is also like, 100% A Game with goals and an end-state though quote:The Quiet Year is a map game. You define the struggles of a community living after the collapse of civilization, and attempt to build something good within their quiet year. Every decision and every action is set against a backdrop of dwindling time and rising concern. Alaois fucked around with this message at 19:07 on May 11, 2021 |
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Alaois posted:
To be clear, it wasn't that Tumblr allowed you to edit your own posts. You could just edit anything you were reblogging. They had to "fix" it by removing editing altogether Tumblr was a special place
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Tumblr used to let you edit other people's posts? Edit: ah gotcha, so you could repost something and change it.
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Tears In A Vial posted:Cock is one of my favourite tastes. Not only that, but balls smell amazing. It makes me go a little crazy on it to be honest. Like, I cannot get it far enough down my throat to be satisfied.
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Same, but for calzones
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Gave it a listen and yeah this new TAZ format isnt for me. I'll keep listening but honestly when they can get to actually playing characters and roleplaying in a more traditional DnD format I'll be happy. I'm sure this model of building a land etc is really fulfilling when you're actually the players playing in that world but as a listen it personally isn't that interesting.
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Tears In A Vial posted:I love pineapple pizza and black licorice. And in order to "fix it" they just removed the entire editing function.
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Warbird posted:Man I missed game system arguments. Pathfinder when?
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I heard a football player named Colt died today. It was a different Colt from the one who made a cameo. But what would have happened if it was the same Colt as from this weeks question?
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https://twitter.com/travismcelroy/status/1392120240021069825
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This man truly is the worst. “My wife won’t let me shave unless you give me some money.” Another hilarious tweet!
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https://twitter.com/travismcelroy/status/1392475366044966916
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Time for another Travis derail! Everyone get your shots in quick!
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I'm laughing less at Travis and more at MaxFun for struggling to meet half their drive goal with, like, 3 days to go. I like the network a lot, but 28k new/upgrading members without being fully out of the pandemic or the associated recession is a wild goal, I think.
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I think they ended up not having the drive last year for obvious reasons. This one may have been an attempt to make up some numbers, but is obviously ill timed. May be bad news for some shows on the network. Hopefully they save Mission to Zyxx at all costs.
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Poor Miserable Gurgi posted:I think they ended up not having the drive last year for obvious reasons. This one may have been an attempt to make up some numbers, but is obviously ill timed. May be bad news for some shows on the network. Hopefully they save Mission to Zyxx at all costs. Mission to Zyxx is ending, according to the ads I get for it in every episode
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Woop, bad time to not be caught up. And bad times in general.
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They're ending the story, but they still want to work together, and their announcement at the beginning of the season didn't seem mention anything about not working with MaxFun. They have enough stuff planned for the season to get to next year, so they'll probably also use that time to think of what's next.
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Poor Miserable Gurgi posted:I think they ended up not having the drive last year for obvious reasons. This one may have been an attempt to make up some numbers, but is obviously ill timed. May be bad news for some shows on the network. Hopefully they save Mission to Zyxx at all costs. No, they still had it last year, they just emphasized how much they weren't having maximum fun drive at maximum fun dot org forward slash join because of how rough things were, but if you still want to support the network you can go to maximum fun dot org forward slash join, and then they had an Actual maxfundrive in like August, except they did it for a month
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