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JT Smiley
Mar 3, 2006
Thats whats up!

What's considered the bad era? I thought I stopped towards the end and just found out there were still 40 issues left.

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Hakkesshu
Nov 3, 2009



JT Smiley posted:

What's considered the bad era? I thought I stopped towards the end and just found out there were still 40 issues left.

I think I peaced out after the whole rape thing they did, which was issue 110/144. Although I did not think that particular plot point was handled very well, it was more because I caught up with the releases and I just wanted to wait until the whole thing was done instead of reading an issue every month. And then I just forgot to get back to it.

There are definitely times where it gets a bit too mean-spirited and nihilistic, but really I found it to be fairly benign for Kirkman compared to Walking Dead.

Ccs posted:

My reason for peacing out on Invincible was super petty. I hated how they bolded certain words so the reader couldn't put their own emphasis on what they wanted to in the sentence while reading. After a certain point I found it so aggravating that I couldn't be bothered to read another issue.

The comic definitely has this problem more than comparable superhero comics. It's so verbose and full of characters just spouting exposition in huge text bubbles with the same expressions across panels too. Really I think so far the animation has been an improvement.

Edit:

If anyone is interested the whole series is half off right now

https://www.comixology.eu/Robert-Kirkman-Sale-Featuring-Invincible/page/24799?ref=c2l0ZS9pbmRleC9kZXNrdG9wL2xhcmdlQ2Fyb3VzZWw

Hakkesshu fucked around with this message at 22:06 on Mar 29, 2021

apatheticman
May 13, 2003






Wedge Regret

Yeah I don't know how any showrunner would look at the Walking Dead and with another property he made go "lets stick to Kirkman's entire vision".

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013


apatheticman posted:

Yeah I don't know how any showrunner would look at the Walking Dead and with another property he made go "lets stick to Kirkman's entire vision".

It's a Seth Rogen / Evan Goldberg joint -- Preacher, The Boys -- so they're not going to literally adapt the comic.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

What's a war hero got to do to get some lubrication around here?



I am kind of worried about Atom Eve's arc because she's exactly the kind of character that creators who are guys would do terrible things to in order to motivate the heroes.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!


Doom2020! posted:

I still wish I could remember if I peaced out at the end of the "good era" and what exact issue. I hope the comic diverges at least a little as I like to be surprised. Anyone know why they made Seance Dog and not Science Dog? Is it because the comic was a Tom Strong homage?

Probably because Science Dog is an actual comic book now and Hickman didn't want to include it into the Invincible licensing deal.

Spacebump
Dec 23, 2003

Dallas Mavericks: Generations


Macdeo Lurjtux posted:

Probably because Science Dog is an actual comic book now and Hickman didn't want to include it into the Invincible licensing deal.

This is exactly what I read the other day. (But it was from a random reddit post so wasn't a credible source)

JT Smiley
Mar 3, 2006
Thats whats up!

Hakkesshu posted:

I think I peaced out after the whole rape thing they did, which was issue 110/144. Although I did not think that particular plot point was handled very well, it was more because I caught up with the releases and I just wanted to wait until the whole thing was done instead of reading an issue every month. And then I just forgot to get back to it.


That's exactly what happened to me. I was finally caught up with the series and the long wait between trades and that last issue just made me forget about the series.

Pussy Quipped
Jan 29, 2009



Spacebump posted:

This is exactly what I read the other day. (But it was from a random reddit post so wasn't a credible source)

The Invincible Twitter account confirmed this. Science dog and tech jacket and the other spin-off/tie in characters are all licensed separately and it would be a headache to try to get clearance to use them in the show. Which is just, lol

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

Because if I tell you, you'll tell your friends, your friends are callin' me on the horn all the time, I gotta show up at shopping centers for openings and sign autographs and shit like that and it makes my life a *hell*. Okay? A living hell.


It's pretty funny that one of the few original characters in the comic got retroactively changed into another referential/ripoff character.

Kung Food
Dec 11, 2006

PORN WIZARD

Just binged the 1st three episodes and I am on board. My pet theory on Omni-Man's motivations. He feels like his son is too far behind power-wise, and wants put him through a school of hard-knocks training routine. Problem is that with the Guardians of the Globe around, the world is too safe and Mark won't go through enough hardship to toughen him up enough. I noticed Nolan only showed up the second it looked like Mark was about to bite it, so he will be around to save him if need be, but wants to let him get brought to the very brink first. This seems like a very petty reason to brutually murder eight people in cold blood, but Omi-Man gives me serious sociopath with a god-complex vibes so it fits for me. I don't buy the mind control explanation for a moment.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

What's a war hero got to do to get some lubrication around here?



Yea I get the feeling that Omni-Man might be a lot like Homelander.

Marsupial Ape
Dec 15, 2020

...big ol' thick pumpernickel...


Don't forget, we've already been shown Omni-Man has what it takes to genocide a technologically advanced civilization.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.


So far this show is pretty cute, and makes me wish JK Simmons did the voice of All-Might

Ccs posted:

My reason for peacing out on Invincible was super petty. I hated how they bolded certain words so the reader couldn't put their own emphasis on what they wanted to in the sentence while reading. After a certain point I found it so aggravating that I couldn't be bothered to read another issue.

That's a pet peeve of mine in comics in general. It feels like most DC and Marvel do the thing where every other word gets bolded.

I had a thing where I'd annoy my friends by reading from a comic book and putting emphasis on every bolded word as I read them. It doesn't flow at ALL.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.


Oh poo poo that ending (ep 1)

cant cook creole bream
Aug 15, 2011
I think Fahrenheit is better for weather

My personal theory wrt Omniman The claims that his race visits over planets to help them advance is pure fascist propaganda. From the way he acted, I suspect that this is their way of empire expansion. Go to a planet, find the strongest defenders, earn their trust, kill them, signal for your buddies to invade. This later part of the plan was somehow triggered, when Marc had his powers appear. It seems like Nolan was content with not having to do anything and a bit miffed when these powers eventually showed themselves.

boz
Oct 16, 2005


Zaphod42 posted:

So far this show is pretty cute, and makes me wish JK Simmons did the voice of All-Might


Zaphod42 posted:

Oh poo poo that ending (ep 1)

I love this

Ccs
Feb 25, 2011




Zaphod42 posted:

So far this show is pretty cute, and makes me wish JK Simmons did the voice of All-Might


That's a pet peeve of mine in comics in general. It feels like most DC and Marvel do the thing where every other word gets bolded.

I had a thing where I'd annoy my friends by reading from a comic book and putting emphasis on every bolded word as I read them. It doesn't flow at ALL.

Manga doesn't do the bolding so much so I basically stick with that, though I've kind of fallen off of reading all comics lately and gone back to books. Longer stories in cheaper packages.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.


3 episodes in and I'm liking this way more than I figured I would.

It being animated, it seems they're even more willing to depict random civilians being brutally killed than "adult" superhero takes like Watchmen or Boys. People go splat a LOT but I like the tone.

Overall I get major One Punch Man vibes from this, like a western OPM with some Boys thrown in.

And I knew this had big production values and some big names but the cast still keeps impressing me. Clancy Brown as Demon Detective is amazing.

tweet my meat
Oct 2, 2013

yospos


Holy poo poo!

zoux
Apr 28, 2006



I'll point out that the first 10 trades (~60 issues) are on Comixology Unlimited, and I think they do a seven day free trial, so if you wanna know if the comic is any good, you can check out a lot of it for free. Also the whole line is 50% off, Comixology always does massive sales for an IP whenever a big movie/show comes out.

Doom2020!
Dec 31, 2020

If you think this has a happy ending then you really haven't been paying attention

Hakkesshu posted:


zoux posted:

I'll point out that the first 10 trades (~60 issues) are on Comixology Unlimited, and I think they do a seven day free trial, so if you wanna know if the comic is any good, you can check out a lot of it for free. Also the whole line is 50% off, Comixology always does massive sales for an IP whenever a big movie/show comes out.

If anyone is interested the whole series is half off right now

https://www.comixology.eu/Robert-Kirkman-Sale-Featuring-Invincible/page/24799?ref=c2l0ZS9pbmRleC9kZXNrdG9wL2xhcmdlQ2Fyb3VzZWw

Thank you for this. I've been meaning to check out how it ends. Still have fond memories of this comic and looking forward to seeing how this series works out. Rewatched the first three eps and just as entertaining. Still like the Diniverse animation and glad they went with this style. Thank you Seth Rogan for taking time out from trolling Ted Cruz to continue to make television.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006



One thing that you're gonna get in the comic that you can't really reproduce on the screen are Ryan Ottley's incredibly dynamic and minutely detailed splash pages. He gets poo poo for reusing assets panel to panel (not nearly as much as Cory Walker did tho) but since it's in service of giving him time to create these spectacular two-page tableaus it's totally worth it. Obviously the show is going to have access to other tools for spectacular visuals - I thought the 'Omni-man kills the entire Flaxian planet' sequence was the best example of that so far - but there's just something special about a great splash page.

Ccs
Feb 25, 2011




Ryan Ottley's art was a major reason I read Invincible for as long as I did. It's also great to have an american comic where the same artist stays on for nearly the whole run. I hate when I'm reading something good and then, whoops, that artist's time on the book is over, they go on to their next gig and their replacement can't do the characters half as well. It's especially jarring when the faces and eyes don't look consistent from issue to issue.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

EXISTENCE IS PAIN

It's really growing on me. I enjoyed The Boys and this is a slightly different take on that genre.

My initial thought on Omniman- I thought this was some biological thing Vitruvians go through, some sort of "survival of the fittest" in that when one has offspring the parent turns into some rear end in a top hat to ensure the next generation is strong enough to survive and continue the species by having the younger one defeat the older one. Or maybe they're so hyper competitive as a species that the second there's two of them on one planet they'll start to get hostile to one another.

Poor aquarius, little guy seemed so excited when he got the call only to get murked like it was nothing. I'm guessing judging by the contraption Immortal is not gone for good and the CIA has plans for him.

I liked the interdimensional aliens repeatedly coming back over and over. I'm just imagining that alien warlord spending another ten years thinking "THIS TIME we'll win it! No way will they beat us after ten alien years of preparation!". The way Omniman just bodied their entire civilization really showed they wouldn't have gotten ONE try off had he not been in a coma.



I swear one of the guys in the tryouts looked like Saitama, I assume this was deliberate given all the other superhero jokes.

I'm enjoying Demon Detective gathering clues to solve the mystery. And the G men that have to deal with this superhero stuff all the time are fun to watch in action. It's interesting to see all the logistics that go into supporting super heroes. Super Jails also provide great material, I mean can you imagine some cosmic horror getting all excited realizing Thursday is Chicken Pot Pie night?

So which one was the real clone? Some real "I'm Sparticus" energy there.

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001





Ep4: lol that Marc was going to spend 2 weeks being bored out of his mind.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

What's a war hero got to do to get some lubrication around here?



Rip Wish.com Hellboy. though I wonder what Cecil's endgame is.

Pretty sure the line "where do you think he's from, Jupiter?" Is a referance to Jack from Jupiter who did't make it into the Boys, other than in porn.

Phenotype
Jul 24, 2007

You must defeat Sheng Long to stand a chance.



Zaphod42 posted:

3 episodes in and I'm liking this way more than I figured I would.

It being animated, it seems they're even more willing to depict random civilians being brutally killed than "adult" superhero takes like Watchmen or Boys. People go splat a LOT but I like the tone.

Overall I get major One Punch Man vibes from this, like a western OPM with some Boys thrown in.

And I knew this had big production values and some big names but the cast still keeps impressing me. Clancy Brown as Demon Detective is amazing.

It's a tiny bit more "teen" than I'd prefer, but yeah, this has been a lot of fun so far and the voice cast is unreal. I like the sense of humor it has too. One of the things that sold me was in the second episode, when this demon guy mysteriously shows up, and he's got the trenchcoat and hat and has red skin and talks very forebodingly in his gravelly voice -- and then Cecil is just like "gently caress you rear end in a top hat, you say one word to anyone else and I'll put a goddamn bullet in your brain", just no respect whatsoever. We don't give a poo poo about mysterious demons, either do what you're told or shut the gently caress up.

Affi
Dec 18, 2005

Break bread wit the enemy

X GON GIVE IT TO YA


Cecil is great in show and in comic. I wouldn’t say Walton is phoning it in it’s just Cecil is so loving tired of the constant poo poo.

Doom2020!
Dec 31, 2020

If you think this has a happy ending then you really haven't been paying attention

Affi posted:

Cecil is great in show and in comic. I wouldn’t say Walton is phoning it in it’s just Cecil is so loving tired of the constant poo poo.

Considering who the voice actor is that HAS to be deliberate and a funny take. "Goddamit another dimensional invasion? It's only Tuesday. <sigh> Call Omniman and get Jenkins on the ready for cleanup level 5. Senator who has been an alien the whole time? Do we know from what planet and do they have a consulate? What do you mean the Prince of Wykandia wants a private chat about some Dutch Smuggler? Send that to Chen over on the 4th floor. UFO spotted over Las Vegas? loving hell...get the doves."

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

EXISTENCE IS PAIN

Phenotype posted:

It's a tiny bit more "teen" than I'd prefer, but yeah, this has been a lot of fun so far and the voice cast is unreal. I like the sense of humor it has too. One of the things that sold me was in the second episode, when this demon guy mysteriously shows up, and he's got the trenchcoat and hat and has red skin and talks very forebodingly in his gravelly voice -- and then Cecil is just like "gently caress you rear end in a top hat, you say one word to anyone else and I'll put a goddamn bullet in your brain", just no respect whatsoever. We don't give a poo poo about mysterious demons, either do what you're told or shut the gently caress up.

Demon Dick can't be all that good at his job, otherwise he wouldn't have gotten kicked out of hell.

But I do like the idea of Cecil getting into this yelling match about jurisdiction with a demon. "The Baal-Ratzinger Treaty clearly states in plain Latin that homicides in Purgatory and up are our call. Don't make me call the mayor of Elysium again!"

Panfilo fucked around with this message at 19:01 on Apr 2, 2021

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

What's a war hero got to do to get some lubrication around here?



Hellroy knew something was going to happen as he left his notebook in the closet so Debbie can find it

Its weird, Gillian Jacobs sounds so different as Atom Eve, maybe because i'm used to her being Britta.

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004



Ccs posted:

Yeah they're super blatant knockoffs, except perhaps for Immortal. The city Darkwing lives in even has the red sky that Gotham had in the 90s Batman cartoon.

Image likes clowning on the other comics companies. Later in the series heroes from Image's own greater library of heroes show up, like Savage Dragon and Brit.

Btw Savage Dragon is a... weird comic. It's like if they took a typical superhero story and unlike in Invincible, where they went the violence route, they went the porn route instead.

Oh, the violence route is still very much covered in Savage Dragon too.



To keep this on topic, Invincible's first official appearance was in this issue of Savage Dragon, which is pretty hilarious.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006



Affi posted:

Cecil is great in show and in comic. I wouldn’t say Walton is phoning it in it’s just Cecil is so loving tired of the constant poo poo.

Yeah, I'm doing a re-read and it's very easy to hear Cecil's dialogue in Goggin's voice. Much more so than say Eve in Gillian Jacob's voice, but they're definitely going for a different vibe with Eve in the show. Yeun matches up pretty well with Mark, it didn't occur to me until he and Sandra Oh were cast, but are Mark and his mom supposed to be Asian in the book too? Not that I care if it's different (especially since they used it as an opportunity to cast Yeun and Oh - who is especially delightful and even through four episode I can already tell this is a superior characterization) I'm just curious.

Fartington Butts
Jan 21, 2007



When Mark said "This is like all desserts in one" I knew it exactly what it was gonna be and now I want some.

Bummer that we aren't getting more Clancy Brown.

Phenotype
Jul 24, 2007

You must defeat Sheng Long to stand a chance.



Fartington Butts posted:

When Mark said "This is like all desserts in one" I knew it exactly what it was gonna be and now I want some.

Bummer that we aren't getting more Clancy Brown.

Oh right! What was that? I tried googling Filipino dessert in bag but no dice.

Fartington Butts
Jan 21, 2007



Phenotype posted:

Oh right! What was that? I tried googling Filipino dessert in bag but no dice.

Halo-halo

zoux
Apr 28, 2006



Filipino cuisine is insanely good

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

EXISTENCE IS PAIN

Omni man is pretty sus but who can blame him for wanting to take a vacation? I sure as poo poo am not gonna go fight some dragon when I'm off the clock. Might as well let Cecil put that 5% of the GDP funded military industrial complex to use.

I was just disappointed they didn't sic the Kaiju they scooped up from the previous episode on it. Isn't that why the governnent has a gigantic fridge full of those critters?

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Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

Because if I tell you, you'll tell your friends, your friends are callin' me on the horn all the time, I gotta show up at shopping centers for openings and sign autographs and shit like that and it makes my life a *hell*. Okay? A living hell.


Panfilo posted:

Demon Dick can't be all that good at his job, otherwise he wouldn't have gotten kicked out of hell.

He was even less competent in the comic.

(I'm not going to post what happened in case they decide to include the gag for the show somehow)

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