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Don't see the point of spending a whole lot of effort on characters whose purpose is fulfilled so quickly. You paint fast, in bright colors and big swatches, and let the cultural osmosis fill in the details since you haven't got a lot of time for them. It did bug me a bit that that scene wasn't as effortless as in the comic, but someone up thread pointed out the alternate reading of serving Nolan's alibi and he does just kind of wreck face as soon as he's decided he's had enough to make it look good. Little sad to not see "I never liked you."
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Good Citizen posted:I think he explicitly said that they just got it and that it costs the taxpayer millions each time they use it, so tech In the comic he gleefully admits it costs five million bucks every time he uses it but he just can't stop, haha.
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Jerusalem posted:Just uhh.... just don't read any more of the Ultimates than that.... This is very good advice.
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Apr 19, 2021 13:03
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Just couldn't let go of the beard, eh?
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Apr 27, 2021 13:15
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I like that being a superhero doesn't magically forgive all sins, like treating someone like dirt and not giving them the opportunity to work with you on your job.
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Apr 29, 2021 19:01
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The twist isn't that Nolan is a baddie, ya dinguses
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Apr 30, 2021 03:31
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The world isn't uniting against the common threat of Viltrum because there's not really any point. Humanity in general isn't a threat in any capacity to Nolan, and nothing any human does will change whether Viltrum shows up or not. So people just kinda go about their business, not exactly ignoring the threat but definitely more aware that nothing super matters.
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Apr 30, 2021 12:32
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Gyges posted:
If you really think Nolan's heel turn is the plot twist you were waiting for then you have some serious critical analysis lessons to learn. Let me be more explicit: Nolan not being a sociopath is the loving twist. His internal (and external) conflict between duty and his family is the goddamn plot, and the twist is that his family won. It wasn't an easy win, and his duty and loyalty are strong, but in the end he decides his family is more important. That's insanely optimistic in this nihilistic world and genre and basically the reason the comic is pretty much my all time favorite.
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Apr 30, 2021 16:25
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A wizard did it.
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Apr 30, 2021 16:57
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Yeah. Fits the character perfectly.
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Apr 30, 2021 19:12
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Zaphod42 posted:Eh, you don't know that for sure. I meant more in the sense of "All the petty poo poo is still happening," not in the grand united front part. Additionally, I will admit to pulling other speculation from comics developments, but I dunno, when something's so far out of your league there's really not much point in using more energy than necessary on it.
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Apr 30, 2021 19:37
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zoux posted:It was obviously a choice to have Nolan's eyes bloodshot throughout the episode, so I wonder if that was supposed to be mimicking how when Superman goes evil he invariably has the glowing red eyes. That's also what someone's eyes look like if they've been feeling some really strong emotions, perhaps by crying or not-crying. Can't imagine why...
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Apr 30, 2021 20:41
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Azhais posted:There's really nothing mysterious about omni man's eyes being red, Immortal jammed his thumbs into them at the very end of last episode and they were red when Nolan wiped the blood off
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May 1, 2021 00:19
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I think that the people in this thread are forgetting something really important about Mark's characterization: He is a lovely teen. I dunno the last time you nerds was a lovely teen (for me it was, uh, more than two decades ago now) but the best emotional response to a given situation definitely wasn't the first one I thought of. Hell, it often still isn't, and having had someone unexpected give me The Best emotional response about two years ago now was what made me rethink how I approach people. That being said, give your drat mom a hug ya dingus.
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May 1, 2021 14:47
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People gonna people.
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May 1, 2021 19:27
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Isn't carefully calling attention to cultural differences that don't play into the story at all kind of exactly the opposite of representation?
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May 1, 2021 20:33
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Solice Kirsk posted:More. Food. Representation. I mean, always. We don't see enough bao and pho and gyro and and and man I just love food.
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May 1, 2021 20:41
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Ccs posted:I think it’s more incidentally showing them using chopsticks, maybe some Korean food on the table, or maybe something else Korean Americans generally have in their homes (what do the prototypical Korean American homes look like? The only friend from my childhood whose parents were Korean just had a stereotypically suburban house, but with more emphasis on Jesus stuff on the walls.) I feel like you just said the thing. I know it's silly, but like I have utensils from all over the world in my house and we're just as likely to eat curry as lasagne as pho as burg. There's no particular ethnic representation because calling anything out particularly would be kind of weird, at least in a suburban upper-middle class environment. Hell I see more traditional Asian cultural representation in my lovely fuckin' weeb father-in-law's house than I do in those houses of people from that cultural background. This isn't really a value judgement, honestly. It's just, like, isn't calling out JUST HOW DIVERSE WE ARE REALLY as opposed to treating the characters as though they're people who live lives just like everybody else and there's no overwhelmingly external influence to dictate their personalities?
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May 1, 2021 21:51
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It sure do feel like the show is making a more concerted effort to not let you, the viewer, forget that Nolan has done some Bad poo poo.
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May 5, 2021 12:20
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Captain Oblivious posted:Again, I do not care Then why write these screeds? Whether you get it or not (looks like you don't!) why waste all this time complaining about the show in your head not matching the one everyone else watched as though that discontinuity is the show's fault?
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May 8, 2021 20:18
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zoux posted:Invincible had to pick a name that started with I because he had to have the Image Comics logo for a costume. Intractable
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May 8, 2021 22:56
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vaguely or explicitly uncomfortable is kinda Invincible's MO
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May 10, 2021 15:38
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I feel like some of this thread forgets what it was like to have been being a lovely teen.
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May 12, 2021 21:47
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:The absolute worst part of the season. Just a complete Is it possible seeing mark's dad hitting him recontextualized her view of his selfishness? I mean I dunno about learning and growing and changing in any capacity all everything static and unchanging as the smooth open ocean.
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May 12, 2021 23:36
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:Or it could just be really bad writing. I wonder how you tell them apart?
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May 12, 2021 23:53
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Nobody else has an obligation to sign up for that.
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May 13, 2021 18:48
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You're allowed to be mad at being woken up from someone's ptsd-induced night terrors and at the same time sympathize and try to wait for them to address how their life affects you. No person is an accessory.
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May 13, 2021 18:49
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always liked edward gorey
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May 21, 2021 02:11
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I like the complaining about gore and whatnot when the true horror of a man beating his son to a pulp 'for his own good' is just sort of glossed right over. The gore is there to distract you, and it's working, hahaha. That poo poo's horrifying. As a separate thought... Mark earns his name in that final moment, not because he took it or because he managed to do flashy hero stuff, but because no matter what he kept his ideals and made his own decisions: exercising your agency in the face of the overwhelming is the only real choice anyone gets. Whatever happens, happens, but nobody controls what you think.
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May 21, 2021 11:53
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You're doing a good job keeping people engaged, so I'm proud of you for playing this bit so well.
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May 21, 2021 15:28
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a Loving Dog posted:For whoever needs to hear it: it's okay to enjoy problematic media. it doesn't make you a bad person. it's telling people they're too dumb to see the problematic aspects of it that makes you a bad person
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May 21, 2021 16:22
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ALLOW ME TO CAST THIS HEAVEN SENT KNOWLEDGE DOWN FROM THE MOUNTAINTOPS THAT I MIGHT ENLIGHTEN YOU POOR UNWASHED PLEBES
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May 21, 2021 16:23
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EVERYTHING YOU LIKE IS BAD AND WRONG BADWRONG BADONG
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May 21, 2021 16:23
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reporting also has these problems but critical analysis of media is harrrrrrrrrdddddddddddd
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https://imgur.com/a/msISXaJ
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May 21, 2021 16:34
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Blueberry Pancakes posted:Yeah, the entirety of Episode 8 is some really exceptional parenting from Nolan. The back to back combination of using his son to Man of Steel an entire city, followed by "Your mother's life is pointless", followed by the comment that he's been lying to Mark his whole life. And it just gets worse from there! This is one reason I'm so impressed by Mark's refusal to give in. He knows exactly what that means, and Nolan's reaction isn't the one he expected at all. It's not about a noble death (which is a lovely way to approach things) and not about sacrifice (because that's just as bad). It's about looking a tyrant in the eye and telling him he's wrong, and drat the torpedoes. Nothing more and nothing less. A tyrant, a bully, an abusive father? When you decide they are wrong, and never, ever give in...that's strength. It's rarely so cut-and-dried, and even here Mark loves his father, idolizes the man. But Nolan and his attitude are wrong, and Mark stands up to him. This is worthy and I will sing its praises, whether it's in a silly gory cartoon for manchildren or in real life.
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May 21, 2021 18:45
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do you filter out your flouride
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May 28, 2021 11:51
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Bust Rodd posted:How on Earth did people watch television before we had the internet to tell them whether a show was good or not… they mostly didnt also there was only three channels total and they all sucked
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M_Gargantua posted:It’s mostly racism and misogyny spewing forth There's a big healthy dose of solipsism and "I don't see other humans as people" in there too, mind!
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Giving you a standard plot beat and the twisting the reactions to it are kind of the Invincible modus operandi.
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