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Mooseontheloose
May 13, 2003
crazy people don't like me

I've been reluctant to watch the Organized Crime spin off because

A) SVU is just not good anymore. I truly gave up after their weird Joker-eque Liv bad guy arc.
B) Police climate in the US right now and what Stabler kinda represents to that.

Is it any good?

Also, someone on page 1 mentioned blue bloods. What I always appreciated about Law and Order is that they aren't afraid to show that cops are also super lovely and corrupt. Blue Bloods is basically nazi propaganda.

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Mooseontheloose
May 13, 2003
crazy people don't like me

fartknocker posted:

The last few episodes of that season are nuts between that, the defense attorney throwing herself and the client she’s obsessed with off the roof of the DA’s building, and then the last episode with Lake shooting people and Novak getting in trouble.

are those SPEED WEED episodes?

Mooseontheloose
May 13, 2003
crazy people don't like me

MJeff posted:

In the world of goofy-rear end one-season detectives, who is the champion, Lake or Cassidy?

Lake was competent and Adam Beach is actually a decent actor. Cassidy...was neither.

Mooseontheloose
May 13, 2003
crazy people don't like me


I mean, its also the last possible well for an L&O series. I mean, I guess Trial by Jury tried to show both sides but I kinda like the idea of seeing the defense lawyers prepping for McCoy.

Mooseontheloose
May 13, 2003
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fartknocker posted:

It's on TV a lot. Like, literally, right this moment, it's on We TV. They have all 20 seasons and show them on different days, but they're on different rotations. Tuesday and Wednesday afternoon/evening are currently showing season 7, and it's also on most of Sunday afternoon, where they're on season 3. Ion has something like seasons 13-20, which they show a few mornings a week until about 10 or 11 AM, currently around season 19. BBC America also shows it, at least on Monday nights. They're on season 6 or so right now and show at least the early seasons, but I don't know how far into the series they carry or if it's on any other days.


I was goign to say on my cable package: BBC America, Ovation, and WE at the very least play Law and Order Classic.

Mooseontheloose
May 13, 2003
crazy people don't like me

MJeff posted:

Hey, it could be like Criminal Minds, but good!

I think Connie becomes a fed post-Classic, right? Anything that gives us more Connie, I'm on board for.

It's like you people don't watch CBS shows.

Mooseontheloose
May 13, 2003
crazy people don't like me

Hand Knit posted:

Simon was House's private investigator?

Don't forget he played Michael Weston on an episode of Burn Notice.

Mooseontheloose
May 13, 2003
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YeahTubaMike posted:

Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuggggggghhhhhh let's all collectively forget that Lewis ever existed. What a complete shitshow.

I gave up on SVU for a bit after that came back for a bit and have fall off again.

Another really great episode of Law and Order Vanilla is Nullification Season 8 Episode 6. It basically was both talking about the 90s militia movement and all super prescient in 2020!

Mooseontheloose
May 13, 2003
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Caesarian Sectarian posted:

I recently watched the entire run of SVU and the only episodes that really tested my patience were when Rollins’ sister shows up.

I dunno the end of the Stabler run and Danny Pino years are pretty trying.

Mooseontheloose
May 13, 2003
crazy people don't like me

Timby posted:

Yep. The descent into madness began with the Rape Van episode, which premiered the seventh season, I believe. By season 10, the show was like a porn parody of itself, and then there was the idiotic season 12 finale with the shootout in the squadroom. Neal Baer finally resigned as the executive producer after the end of 12, with Warren Leight taking over, and with the major cast shakeup, the series had a pretty decent breath of fresh air.

Until we got Rollins' batshit family and Amaro having the longest goddamn divorce ever and becoming Stabler 2.0.

Yah the Rape Van episode where there is a perfectly valid reading of that episode that Stabler caused the T-1000 to relapse and try and rape a girl is a REALLY bad episode. Is the audience decides the ending episode in there too? Ugh.

I also feel bad for both Adam Beach and Diane Neal's run on the show both deserved a better ending.

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Mooseontheloose
May 13, 2003
crazy people don't like me

Farmer Crack-rear end posted:

So, I haven't watched a huge amount of Law & Order, but... am I off-base here, or does Jack McCoy strike anyone else as kind of bloodthirsty? I watched a couple of eighth season L&O episodes recently and McCoy just seems wildly aggressive in wanting to put anyone behind bars. Is there some character background I'm missing, or was this just a reflection of a broader push at the time to be "tough on crime"?

They don't call him "Hang 'Em High" McCoy for nothing.

Basically Jack McCoy basically likes to win and views things like murder/assault/rape and attacking the relative peace people live in as so abhorrent that he'll use the law to protect it. It's also why he is kind of a berserker when another lawyer, officer of the court, or public servant breaks the bond.

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