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Lil Swamp Booger Baby
Aug 1, 1981

MTV




Inzombiac posted:

This should all be on one screen. I couldn't figure out wtf I was doing.

Can you make doors?
If you select a colony member, how do you de-select them? The UI for that takes up A LOT of screen real estate.

The proposed game is EXACTLY what I want from a survival game. I hope you guys keep going!

You can make doors via the crafting bench and pressing E while mousing over it. Doors need colonists to build it.

The UI is definitely going to see some major overhauls.

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Lil Swamp Booger Baby
Aug 1, 1981

MTV




CommissarMega posted:

Two questions:

1: Do you have room for another volunteer?

2: Can you customize the controls? 'Cos I'm used to using E for everything, and I'd like to switch the Tab and E functions mentioned above.

For the Playtest? Yeah we could use like, a thousand more tbh.

Controls right now aren't remappable.

Fruits of the sea
Dec 1, 2010


Gonna jump back in and try to build some proper poo poo and give some actual feedback.

Only feedback from an hour of whisky-fueled play is that there sure are a lot of folks crash-landing all over the place. I couldnít build hovels quickly enough to house them

Lil Swamp Booger Baby
Aug 1, 1981

MTV




Fruits of the sea posted:

Gonna jump back in and try to build some proper poo poo and give some actual feedback.

Only feedback from an hour of whisky-fueled play is that there sure are a lot of folks crash-landing all over the place. I couldn’t build hovels quickly enough to house them

Lol you might be better off just putting some of them down to get ammo and weapons on them. We made sure the spawnrate was relatively high so it wouldn't take ages to get things going for the playtests

Fruits of the sea
Dec 1, 2010


Yeah, it took me half a year to get to hardmode in Terraria because I had to build pretty tunnels, train stops and an aqueduct for a rail network. I'm not going to be testing anything remotely resembling normal gameplay

Lil Swamp Booger Baby
Aug 1, 1981

MTV




Fruits of the sea posted:

Yeah, it took me half a year to get to hardmode in Terraria because I had to build pretty tunnels, train stops and an aqueduct for a rail network. I'm not going to be testing anything remotely resembling normal gameplay

That's fine, we need feedback on differing playstyles as much as anything else.

Valtonen
May 13, 2014

Tanks suck. Big time.

One of the biggest gripes I have is inability to build platforms on the tiles you are in. Either increase vertical jump height to 3 tiles or allow me to place a platform behind my head, this is slowing down helevator builds considerably.

Play
Apr 25, 2006

So I roll with a rolling thunder
And I howl with the howling wind
And I drift downstream for as long as it takes
To get up and around the bend

Lil Swamp Booger Baby posted:

It's not mine it's Rhopunzel's lol so you're prob safe unless I murder our current writing guy and supplant him.

I think you mean "unless I suck the cum out of the current writing guy's dick so incredibly hard that he falls into a coma and I supplant him"?

Anyways I will play the game after work today, I promise. I don't just accept kb+m controls from anyone so you should be quite flattered.

blight rhino
Feb 11, 2014

EXQUISITE LURKER



Lil Swamp Booger Baby posted:

That's fine, we need feedback on differing playstyles as much as anything else.

My current one is running around wildly, without knowing what I'm supposed to do. I just recently got the NPCs to build for me, so I'm making progress. As i've said before, this is a new genre (how long can i ride that excuse??)

I definitely like it, I think my biggest complaint is the NPCs just getting stuck and not following me. Also attacking when I don't want them, but I'd just need to take their weapons. That's on me.

The discord is active, and I appreciate the real time feedback.


e- Does it make a difference if the NPC is in your squad vs being in the colony if they'll work at the workbench or whatever production site?

ee- it'd be nice to banish one person at a time, but someone said it does the whole squad?

blight rhino fucked around with this message at 22:55 on Apr 5, 2021

Lil Swamp Booger Baby
Aug 1, 1981

MTV




blight rhino posted:

My current one is running around wildly, without knowing what I'm supposed to do. I just recently got the NPCs to build for me, so I'm making progress. As i've said before, this is a new genre (how long can i ride that excuse??)

I definitely like it, I think my biggest complaint is the NPCs just getting stuck and not following me. Also attacking when I don't want them, but I'd just need to take their weapons. That's on me.

The discord is active, and I appreciate the real time feedback.


e- Does it make a difference if the NPC is in your squad vs being in the colony if they'll work at the workbench or whatever production site?

ee- it'd be nice to banish one person at a time, but someone said it does the whole squad?

A lot of people are finding difficulty in knowing what to do so it isn't just you. We'll be looking at accessibility and giving more info in-game.

If an NPC is in your squad it means they'll presumably follow you and you can give direct commands (which isn't very much atm), whereas colony means they're in the greater group and can be left to their own devices at your base.

Squads conceptually exist to give you a means of delivering commands to fireteams following you or instructions to digging crews, farmers, etcetera, other ways of delivering immediate commands.

HugeGrossBurrito
Mar 20, 2018


Lil Swamp Booger Baby posted:

A lot of people are finding difficulty in knowing what to do so it isn't just you. We'll be looking at accessibility and giving more info in-game.

If an NPC is in your squad it means they'll presumably follow you and you can give direct commands (which isn't very much atm), whereas colony means they're in the greater group and can be left to their own devices at your base.

Squads conceptually exist to give you a means of delivering commands to fireteams following you or instructions to digging crews, farmers, etcetera, other ways of delivering immediate commands.

a game thats also not far from alpha Ostriv, does a pretty good job at saying hey idiot do this, as you play. I needed it lol.

Lil Swamp Booger Baby
Aug 1, 1981

MTV




HugeGrossBurrito posted:

a game thats also not far from alpha Ostriv, does a pretty good job at saying hey idiot do this, as you play. I needed it lol.

Our starting NPC, Buddy, is meant to give you much needed hints and tips but we haven't got around to implementing that stuff. Mostly he spends his time right now killing everything in sight or finding his way into solid terrain. Just being a lunatic.

Statutory Ape
Sep 12, 2017




their name is 'buddie'

Lil Swamp Booger Baby
Aug 1, 1981

MTV




Statutory Ape posted:

their name is 'buddie'

We will be putting you in the game as a specialist in being wack.

bandaid.friend
Apr 25, 2017



Figured out how to spawn guns in debug and they sound so cool. The sillier weapons aren't done yet but I laughed when I shot a frog with a railgun and the corpse went flying off somewhere. Also managed to get the NPCs to automatically butcher all the corpses I'm making which is great because I couldn't figure out how to do it myself

Lil Swamp Booger Baby
Aug 1, 1981

MTV




bandaid.friend posted:

Figured out how to spawn guns in debug and they sound so cool. The sillier weapons aren't done yet but I laughed when I shot a frog with a railgun and the corpse went flying off somewhere. Also managed to get the NPCs to automatically butcher all the corpses I'm making which is great because I couldn't figure out how to do it myself

I'm waiting for the fancier guns as well. Laughed when I spent a whole minute loading a nuke launcher only for it to shoot out a single dinky bullet.
Our sound guy did a good job with the weapon effects.

Inzombiac
Mar 19, 2007

PARTY ALL NIGHT

EAT BRAINS ALL DAY


Okay, so is the idea for colonists to automatically find something for them to do?
Do I need to be telling people to focus on stuff or will they seek it out based on their profession?

Lil Swamp Booger Baby
Aug 1, 1981

MTV




Inzombiac posted:

Okay, so is the idea for colonists to automatically find something for them to do?
Do I need to be telling people to focus on stuff or will they seek it out based on their profession?

Right now they will do it based on profession. Scientists should automatically research, chefs should automatically create more complex foods, engineers should automatically build advanced parts, and armorers should automatically build weaponry, everyone else should automatically do lower end poo poo that's on the docket.

I say should because the AI is still prone to breaking at the moment, over time we'll have more precise means of controlling which colonist is assigned to any given task.

Bad Purchase
Jun 17, 2019





why was this unstickied, the game hasn't been released yet

Somfin
Oct 25, 2010




Nap Ghost

Small question for the devs, what should we be playtesting? Is there a goal / goals you'd like us to pursue to see if we can get there / report difficulties we find along the way?

Lil Swamp Booger Baby
Aug 1, 1981

MTV




Somfin posted:

Small question for the devs, what should we be playtesting? Is there a goal / goals you'd like us to pursue to see if we can get there / report difficulties we find along the way?

Just play naturally. The only real goal right now is building up a base to the limits of what's currently possible to achieve in the game atm which is limited.
We have a Discord where you can report bugs and feedback, link is in the OP, but we basically just want to know how to make the experience smoother and less annoying and which potential features or QoL features would improve things.

Valtonen
May 13, 2014

Tanks suck. Big time.

The vertical pathfinding of the AI is very dubious and limits basebuilding more than anything else. This gane needs a direct traverse way down and up; think terrarias rope system. Ofc later in tech tree it could be elevators. Or ladders. The AI gets stuck on platforms all the time
.
Also quitting and re-loading a game reboots the AI which fixes some of their Jank, But doing that Also resets the research tree.

Somfin
Oct 25, 2010




Nap Ghost

Lil Swamp Booger Baby posted:

Just play naturally. The only real goal right now is building up a base to the limits of what's currently possible to achieve in the game atm which is limited.
We have a Discord where you can report bugs and feedback, link is in the OP, but we basically just want to know how to make the experience smoother and less annoying and which potential features or QoL features would improve things.

Speaking as someone who has been absolutely spoiled by Dragon Quest Builders 2's hand-holdy stuff recently, this is actually quite helpful.

Lil Swamp Booger Baby
Aug 1, 1981

MTV




Valtonen posted:

The vertical pathfinding of the AI is very dubious and limits basebuilding more than anything else. This gane needs a direct traverse way down and up; think terrarias rope system. Ofc later in tech tree it could be elevators. Or ladders. The AI gets stuck on platforms all the time
.
Also quitting and re-loading a game reboots the AI which fixes some of their Jank, But doing that Also resets the research tree.

Our biggest goal with base layouts are the z-doors which will reduce pathfinding considerations by the player signifigantly and allow them to more focus on chaining effective z-door routes together. Of course, the AI should be able to handle pathing complex routes regardless.

We're working on getting the AI pathing better.

Derpies
Mar 10, 2014

BORN TO AWOO
WORLD IS A TUG
Squatch Em All 1989
I am trash poster
42,069 DEAD WOLFGIRLS




shameless bump

Lil Swamp Booger Baby
Aug 1, 1981

MTV




Update bitches!! This one addresses some pathfinding issues people were having (NPCs can properly jump now instead of just single block gaps) but more excitingly, we've implemented the groundwork for setting NPC squad behavior. You can now have them hold fire (so they don't waste ammo murdering snails), keep their distance while firing, be hyper aggressive, hunt wildlife, act as your personal flashlight carriers, return fire only, and so on.

Pretty major update as far as the future goals of Outworlder are concerned.

https://twitter.com/igloosoftgames/status/1379577951067508741?s=19

Can't say when the update will go live on Steam for Playtesters but keep your eyes peeled.

Lil Swamp Booger Baby fucked around with this message at 00:01 on Apr 7, 2021

dervinosdoom
Jan 23, 2014




It doesn't run natively on linux, but it does run on steam play (I'm running POP! OS 20.10) Buddie keeps on telling me there's no food where there's a chest full of simple meals he walks by

Edit:



LOL Buddie, you don't have to work while sleeping

dervinosdoom fucked around with this message at 03:36 on Apr 7, 2021

Lil Swamp Booger Baby
Aug 1, 1981

MTV




They're bad at getting food from chests rn.

At this point we should just leave Buddie as the weirdo he is because I just perceive it to be his personality at this point.

Literally A Person
May 17, 2017

dissin your fly girl


I don't even really play vidya that much but, drat it, I want to try too.

Lil Swamp Booger Baby
Aug 1, 1981

MTV




Literally A Person posted:

I don't even really play vidya that much but, drat it, I want to try too.

We need people of all experience levels so more casual players can tell us what is confusing their brains.

Rhopunzel
Jan 6, 2006

Stroll together, win together


Lil Swamp Booger Baby posted:

They're bad at getting food from chests rn.

At this point we should just leave Buddie as the weirdo he is because I just perceive it to be his personality at this point.

Its hilarious because 1) Buddy was planned to be this kind of lovable oddball goof that everyone keeps in their base and 2) He was meant to be Buddy, not Buddie, but I think the "ie" gives him character

Eat The Rich
Feb 10, 2018





i requested access. im ready to do poorly at this game and blame it all on bugs

HAmbONE
May 11, 2004

I know where the XBox is!!

Smellrose

I too signed up. Iím Hambonius Omega on steam

Kharnifex
Sep 11, 2001


Game is fun, keen to buy it when it comes out

Ben Quebec
Oct 30, 2005


We just pushed through another wave of playtesters!!!!!!



Also Steam Playtest fixed itself so now I have access to it.

This happened before my ticket was answered lmao

SRQ
Nov 9, 2009



this isn't a type of game I generally like but I'm gonna advertise it everywhere annoyingly.

Lil Swamp Booger Baby
Aug 1, 1981

MTV




SRQ posted:

this isn't a type of game I generally like but I'm gonna advertise it everywhere annoyingly.

As you should to avoid painful reprisal.

.random
May 7, 2007



I have spent the better part of the past week and have come up with several additional alternate titles, which you can use for a nominal finders fee and a short 10 second pre-menu-on-loading publisher card, made to my specifications.

Without further ado....
RED OWL TROU
LET OUR DROW
LE WORD TOUR

Or the one I think we all agree is the right choice:
OWO RULER TD

Iíll have my people reach out to your people to collect the fee and provide the publisher card details.

Valtonen
May 13, 2014

Tanks suck. Big time.

10c up on steam. Freezes on loading player If hardmode selected, new Ai configs look neat will check more on them tomorrow.

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itry
Aug 23, 2019






Do you guys have any multiplayer stress tests lined up?

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