Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Post
  • Reply
Apparatchik Magnet
Sep 25, 2019

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Ccs posted:

You've stretched the metaphor to its breaking point and its still not working. Magic powers are a better compared to weapons than any sort of marginalized trait. And no one should be comfortable around people carrying weapons.

Sure, they probably won't use the weapons unless provoked. It's still a weapon. It justifies the fear, which doesn't map to real world marginalization or oppression.

Is this sort of generalized cowardice common where you live or do you think you're an outlier? Are you scared to enter a kitchen, for example, or walk through a parking lot with cars being driven?

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Apparatchik Magnet
Sep 25, 2019

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Kchama posted:

In America's slave days, black people were constantly thought of as superior physically but inferior mentally, and slavery was seen as a form of self-preservation for both white person and black person, because without the white intellect and hand to guide the slave, it was thought that they'd use their superior physical power to begin massacring white people.

It's a shame that even with six decades of Haiti experience before the Civil War they didn't realize how foolish this was.

Apparatchik Magnet
Sep 25, 2019

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Jaxyon posted:

They are just lumped in with the dangerous ones, in much the same way that black people/jews/roma/undocumenteds are viewed as dangerous criminals despite having at most the same criminality rates as their oppressors and usually substantially less.

Say what now? I mean this is right for two of those categories, I guess, but hilariously and obviously not for the other two.

Apparatchik Magnet fucked around with this message at 03:05 on Apr 8, 2021

Apparatchik Magnet
Sep 25, 2019

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Harold Fjord posted:

how are you measuring 'legitimacy' of fear?

This is a good question. Is something worthy of fear because it's, say, 9-14 times more dangerous than a comparable thing, or not worthy of fear because it's still only going to happen to you at a fairly low rate, like .01% or something. And how intense does the "something" happening to you have to be and how human vs. mechanistic the something causing the risk to adjust this equation?

Is fear of pitbulls legitimate but not poodles, for example? Malaysian Airlines but not flying in general? Crossing the Berlin Wall vs. the Rio Grande? Which of these does Jeminsin's work most closely approximate, and is she aware of it and capable of understanding it?

Apparatchik Magnet
Sep 25, 2019

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Ccs posted:

The capacity the magical individual has for violence compared to an ordinary human.

Capacity but not actual action? So you fear muscular people and people who carry pocket knifes, even if they behave no differently than the weak and unarmed? You would have or did fear the Soviet Union, with its greater number of nukes, more than the US, who actually used some historically but had fewer?

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Apparatchik Magnet
Sep 25, 2019

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Doctor Faustine posted:

I think “legitimacy of fear” is very simple; the greater someone’s ability to kill you dead, the more legitimate your fear of them is.

It is more legitimate to be afraid of someone with a baseball bat than someone with only their fists. It’s more legitimate to be afraid of someone with an AR-15 than someone with a baseball bat. It is more legitimate to be afraid of someone who can cause city-destroying earthquakes with their brain than someone with an AR-15.

I agree that this thought is very simple.

Do you fear your father carrying a baseball bat or AR-15 more than any possible stranger doing the same? Do you fear Alex Rodriguez carrying a baseball bat at a signing event with the fans? Do you fear the national guardsman holding an M-4 at the Capitol? Are you capable of understanding why you don't, despite their greater ability to kill you, consider fear of them legitimate?

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • Post
  • Reply