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LostRook posted:I suspect he's about to be scammed since I'm pretty sure half a dozen Yakuza substories start like this. Totally some sort of honey trap going on. The Shiba Inu faced guy is Shiyo's manager, who apparently has mob ties? I'm guessing they either want his (fake) money, or to use him for his connection to Odokawa. Judging by the narrative's direction my guess would be the latter. Or maybe manager just thinks Kakihana is a huge creep for trying to get with a teenager and he brought his yakuza friend to have a 'talk' with him. He wouldn't be wrong! I'm also leaning towards all the animal people being in Odokawa's head. The conversation with the doctor that went: "What do I look like to you?" "A gorilla," "Well you aren't wrong," seems a huge clue. It's just not a conversation they would have if the doctor was actually a gorilla. That and a nurse laughing at being called an Alpaca. Maybe the car crash the policeman flashed back to was the cause of his mental break?
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Forgall posted:Would love to know where she got it. I don't think she was the one who scammed Tanaka though, if it was 16 years ago she'd be 11 at the time.
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Apr 28, 2021 00:47
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More evidence for the "People being animals is all in Odokawa's head" theory: Dobu is surprised that Odokawa can easily pick people out of a crowd, and Odokawa thinking it's weird that other's can't. Picking out individuals would be pretty easy if they are all different animals, the fact that this is hard for everyone else means they don't see the same as Odokawa.
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May 10, 2021 20:10
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I wonder what the whole game plan for the yakuza is. Use a low level idol to trick a poor schmuck into taking loans from them that he probably can't pay back? Seems kind of risky. They can do the whole kneecap special but they still aren't recouping their losses. Not only that, based on the conversation between manager and Shiho in the cab, Kakihana isn't the only guy she is a honey trap for. Now that I think about it, maybe that's why she and Yuki wear masks, so their marks won't recognize them as idols? Seems like there are more profitable uses of their time and resources.
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May 17, 2021 01:00
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Oxxidation posted:if shiho is catfishing old guys for yakuza kickbacks (i'm still not totally sure myself, the relation between mystery kiss and the yakuza is still fuzzy) then i don't think she or anyone above her expected kakihana to take out yakuza-backed loans to keep up the lie. all she knows is that she's taking his money, all the loansharks know is they're giving him money, and all kakihana knows is not a single goddamn thing Is he giving her money though? Right now it seems to be mostly expensive dinners.
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May 17, 2021 04:45
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Omnicrom posted:In the most recent episode we did see Kakihana going to a jewelry store, so presumably he is intending to buy her expensive gifts to keep up appearances. Looks like Oxxidation was right, Shiho said she was tired of "badger games." I hadn't heard that term before so I looked it up. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badger_game quote:The badger game is an extortion scheme or confidence trick in which the victim is tricked into a compromising position to make them vulnerable to blackmail. Kung Food fucked around with this message at 20:18 on May 17, 2021 |
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May 17, 2021 20:11
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Oxxidation posted:genuinely curious how he thought this little tryst was going to turn out for him though. maybe we’ll find out before Yano starts to lay some fat beats with a tire iron
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May 24, 2021 23:49
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I've noticed that one of the main over arching themes of this show that ties all the characters together is people being brought down by their obsessions. Tanaka: The most obvious. Kakihana: His desire for a cute partner he is too old for has him beaten and in deep debt to dangerous people. Kabasawa: Wants social media fame more than anything and even received a little, but now he is targeted by a dangerous gangster and a growing number of people think he is a phony and a coward. Dobu: Obsessed with being better than best boy. Drives him to try to pull off a risky robbery that looks to be a trap. Mystery Kiss (Yamamoto especially) Will do anything to make it big in the idol world, including blackmail and extortion, causing them to get more and more entangled with Yakuza, who have made it increasingly obvious they only care about the group for the money they can make. Little Diamon: His obsession with justice makes him easily manipulated, and will tear a rift between his only family. Imai: If he wasn't such a stan over mystery kiss he probably would have kept his mouth shut about his winnings and not been targeted by two competing Yakuza factions. The homo sapiens: Their arc hasn't been explored that much yet, but Kensuke at least was willing to go so far as taking a bullet for comedy. And the one person tying them all together is a man with no obsessions, who is content to live a lonely life driving his cab around and occasionally eating at his favorite diner with his monkey bros.
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May 25, 2021 05:21
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Elfface posted:At the end we'll discover that the reason people think Odokawa kidnapped the cat is that he's got an actual animal cat in his cupboard, and heard him talking about the passenger as a cat too. I was thinking this might be the case when I noticed in the OP the closet door opens and you see the tail end of an actual, non person, cat.
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May 26, 2021 21:42
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I wonder if the girl's disappearance has something to do with the badger games. Like they tried con the wrong rich dude who subsequently ended her. Or that she wanted to quit and had a "talk" with Yano and then was killed. Either way I am guessing Odokawa was the last person to see her alive and his data links to the killer. I get the vibe that Yamamoto doesn't want the data to help find the girl for the sake of the boss, like Dobu does, but instead he is desperately trying to cover up what happened, which is why he is willing to pay so much for it. Option B is that she is alive and in Odokawa's closet because she is afraid of what Yano or a badger game victim will do to her, but that wouldn't explain why Yamamoto is so desperate for the cab data.
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May 26, 2021 22:36
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For being a criminal scumbag Dobu is a pretty solid bro.
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May 31, 2021 20:25
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Squidster posted:Borrowing screenshots from Reddit, it's 100% a second shooter. They are different guns for sure. My first guess was the little cop twin, but the color of the hand seemed slightly off, they are more of a tan than a white, guns aren't part of the police kit, it would go against his justice obession and he shouldn't know Dobu would be at the docks. My wild speculation? The second shooter is Kabasawa's groupie. The color of the hand matches her better, she was in a position to see the text from Odokawa, and she has the motive of wanting to make the target of her admiration a real hero.
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Jun 1, 2021 01:52
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Some big confirmations this episode. Yuki is in fact a replacement for missing high school girl in mystery kiss, and MHG is dead and not in Odokawa's closet (Odokawa's reaction of "That's not her?" confirms that current Yuki and found in a river Yuki are different people, especially considering Odokawa's god tier talent and recognizing individuals). Makes me feel more strongly in my theory that Yamamoto and Yano are involved in her death and why getting Odokawa's data is so important to them.
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Jun 7, 2021 20:31
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Oxxidation posted:my big question is how shirakawa knew odokawa was going to be in that construction yard. the most charitable interpretation is that she's been tailing him ever since goriki went off on his own investigation[/spoiler] Kung Food fucked around with this message at 20:50 on Jun 7, 2021 |
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Jun 7, 2021 20:48
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Anora posted:wasn't the person that planted the cell phone in Odokawa's taxi the Yuki currently in Mystery Kiss? In the episode where she's getting driven to the club she slides a phone into the folds of his car seat Really good eye! I want back to watch then I noticed in episode 5 at around 2:13, before Yuki is getting in the cab she nods to someone in another car and then we see this:  Someone handed her a cellphone before she got into the car, same sleeve as the second shooter. As the camera pulls back and we see this:  Looks like another cab. The license plate says *46*15. Has that shown up anywhere before? Something to look out for. The driver should be on the right side correct? Meaning it was handed to her by a passenger and not the driver. Omnicrom posted:The thing you're pointing out is that she is listed as "Maya Yuki", right? I think that's just a translation hiccup, the spelling in kanji for her surname reads "Mitsuya" just like it is in the show and if you compare the kanji to the ones that appear on screen in the news report they also match exactly.  He called current the Yuki Mitsuya! What does this mean? Is the dead girl the current Yuki after all? Edit: Re-watched the news report scene and the reporter says it was a body found in October that was identified as Yuki Mitsuya. Has Yuki made an appearance after the Halloween episode? There is still the part where Odokawa says it isn't her, so probably not current Yuki? And just to confirm here is Yuki/Mitsuya hiding the cellphone into the back of Odokawa's cab.  So it really can't be Tanaka hiding the phone/tracker. But this does explain how 2nd shooter knew they would be at the docks. How Shirakawa knew to be at the empty lot is unexplained unless she is behind the bug planting, but I have to wonder why she would get someone else to plant the phone when she was in the cab previously and could have done it herself. Kung Food fucked around with this message at 20:21 on Jun 8, 2021 |
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Yamamoto seems like the prime suspect now, but there is definitely something fishy going on with new Yuki seeing as she is connected to the 2nd shooter/bug placer. Another big reveal that the friend of the boss/father of missing high school girl is in fact Donraku. Could he, or someone connected to him be the 2nd shooter and the person who gave the cellphone to new Yuki to plant in the cab? Maybe a grieving parent doing their own investigation.
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Jun 14, 2021 21:09
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LostRook posted:Tapir Mob Boss had Dobu look for the missing girl on behalf of Don-chan. It's the conversation Kakihana thought he was a part of in episode 3, I think it was? And speaking of the conversation between Dobu and boss, the boss said that Yuki had given Big Diamon a secondhand message. What was the message and who relayed it??
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Jun 15, 2021 07:21
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DemoneeHo posted:As for the identity of Yuki's killer, I don't think Yamamoto has a strong motive to do so. The most important thing for him is Mystery Kiss's success. Killing Yuki would do nothing besides putting him into debt with the Yakuza, which jeopardizes the idols' future.
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Jun 15, 2021 23:58
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Looks like I was right that ditch-11 was Dobu and he gave the eraser to Shirikawa. As the thread already knows the reason there was a bullet left is because someone else shot him at the dock. At this point I think it is probably little Daimon, because the other officers saying maybe he was MIA because he fired his side arm (Which unlike American cops is a huge deal and every bullet needs to be accounted for). Turns out that it was Tanaka that had the phone/bug planted in Odokawa's taxi after all, but what was his connection to Sakura and how did he know to meet her where she was being picked up? Still unexplained how Shirikawa knew to be in the construction yard to save Odokawa from the manager.
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Jun 21, 2021 20:25
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What I like about this show is that it is so rewatchable because so much pops out at you with stuff that hints at the future. From episode 1, when we are first introduced to Odokawa and his cab.  Same duck as what little Diamon showed to his brother. Watching more it shows up pretty often but I never noticed it until this episode rewatches. I always thought it was weird how the Diamons had a pre-established relationship with Odokawa but I guess that explains it. Sindai posted:if I'm keeping track correctly the guy in the police station was the comedy judge, the dead girl's father, and...I can't remember whether he's actually yakuza himself or not. 
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Jun 22, 2021 06:10
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Whelp I guess Shirkawa saving Odokawa from the manager was just a good ol' fashioned plot hole. Same with little Diamon being at the docks to shoot Dobu. I also still don't know why new Yuki placed the phone in the cab and why Tanaka was using it.
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Jun 28, 2021 20:13
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Qwertycoatl posted:Amazing that like the audience and rest of the cast Odokawa had no idea whether there was someone is his closet Makes me wonder what was he feeding it? Was he giving cat kibble to something he thought might be a human? Or was he giving people food to a cat?
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Jun 28, 2021 20:24
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Seeing the human Kakihana made his chasing after teenagers even grosser, especially after he lied his rear end off to try and get close to them. He earned every yen of that debt. Super No Vacancy posted:he already had enough money to take care of orphans, obviously!
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Jul 1, 2021 07:14
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chiasaur11 posted:Care to elaborate? Shirkawa just happening to be in an empty construction lot in the middle of the night. The connection between Tanaka and fake-Yuki. He gave her a phone to plant in his cab, but how did they know each other and how did he know she would be getting into Odokawa's cab? It's never brought up again after that.
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Yeah, I remember thinking at the time, "Wouldn't all the info be server side in the first place, and be saved no matter what happened to his phone?"
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