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Foyt may expand to 3 cars next year, with the driving lineup of Kellett, Calderon, and Bourdais (part time)/Ticktum. This team should likely be a single car effort honestly. The last truly successful driver in this seat was Takuma Sato; it’s been a nightmare ever since. Very few people probably cared but Kellett had a bunch of really bizarre mechanical failures, so I’m inclined to believe they really don’t give a poo poo about that entry.
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Frond posted:Foyt may expand to 3 cars next year, with the driving lineup of Kellett, Calderon, and Bourdais (part time)/Ticktum. Kellett is a pay driver, a thing that isn't uncommon with the less successful teams to help meet their bottom lines, but is it possible that maybe he has pay engineers or pay mechanics too? Possible, albeit unlikely, explanation for how bad his equipment has been in addition to his driving. Also, are they still a split shop between Houston and Speedway? That just seems so wasteful of their clearly limited resources, even if Super Tex doesn't want to live in Indiana.
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Sep 28, 2021 19:27
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I would love to know more about Calderon after seeing her pop up in F2 and Super Formula and a few other spots. Any good articles about her?
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Sep 28, 2021 19:32
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She’s frankly not very suited to open wheel cars. Her SF results have been rather poor.
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Sep 28, 2021 19:34
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bennyfactor posted:Kellett is a pay driver, a thing that isn't uncommon with the less successful teams to help meet their bottom lines, but is it possible that maybe he has pay engineers or pay mechanics too? Possible, albeit unlikely, explanation for how bad his equipment has been in addition to his driving. Also, are they still a split shop between Houston and Speedway? That just seems so wasteful of their clearly limited resources, even if Super Tex doesn't want to live in Indiana. Oh I’m aware but if he’s paying I think they could at least give him a car that works.
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I think having two cars isn't actually an issue if they can afford it. More cars = more data = better set ups
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Sep 28, 2021 19:40
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I don’t think they can, is what I’m saying.
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Sep 28, 2021 20:23
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Frond posted:She’s frankly not very suited to open wheel cars. Her SF results have been rather poor. She tested with Foyt not long ago (thanks to the Rokit sponsorship link) and apparently did ok? I think Super Formula is good at weeding out those that can and can’t in a real strong aero car, Gasly and Palou both did alright but others have struggled. But yeah they’re likely trying to field more cars than they have good engineering staff. Is the Foyt team still running one car out of Texas and another out of Indy? That also seemed I’ll-advised.
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Sep 29, 2021 00:39
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I made an addition to the poster in my garage:
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Sep 29, 2021 17:39
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devmd01 posted:I made an addition to the poster in my garage: Oh hey I haven't posted this photo yet this year 
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Sep 29, 2021 17:45
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Frond posted:Foyt may expand to 3 cars next year, with the driving lineup of Kellett, Calderon, and Bourdais (part time)/Ticktum. Ticktum should be interesting. Guy has been a major asshat for a long time and on F2 radio he bitches so much until he swings round to sarcastic nihilism. He is pretty hated in European open wheel racing. That being said on his day he can be insanely fast and it seems he has realized that he lost out on F1 opportunities primarily due to his attitude, personality and immature statements so there might be a redemption arc somewhere in there. Think more talented, less racist and dangerous Ferrucci.
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Sep 30, 2021 06:53
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https://twitter.com/PitlaneParley/status/1443299517458231313 AJ Foyt Racing, y’all.
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Sep 30, 2021 07:16
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Cataffy posted:Ticktum should be interesting. Guy has been a major asshat for a long time and on F2 radio he bitches so much until he swings round to sarcastic nihilism. He is pretty hated in European open wheel racing. He's not that good. He was fired from Super Formula after 3 races because he was miles (kilometers?) off the pace of Tomoki Nojiri, and this was in a top ride (Mugen Honda backed by RBR). He also lost the Asian F3 series to Rinus Veekay. The guy has a couple good F3 results and is showing sort of decently in F2 because he's massively experienced. Maybe he will be ok in Indycar but I really doubt it.
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Bentai posted:https://twitter.com/PitlaneParley/status/1443299517458231313 I feel sort of bad for him honestly. His car had bunch of mechanical problems this year as well. He's slow as hell and likely one of the worst drivers in recent memory to be "promoted" to the big leagues (even by pay driver standards he's really, really bad - Binder for example actually won things in junior formulae), but at least the car should work. I also recall Celis Jr., who might have even been worse than Kellett.
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Sep 30, 2021 19:01
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Hopefully the Toyota rumour is true (3rd supplier) but I ain't holding my breath.
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Sep 30, 2021 19:03
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I hesitate to call Kellett "bad" instead of "slow". Duno was bad.
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yeah i cant put Kellett anywhere near the pantheon of truly bad drivers
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Nah, Kellett is a bad pay driver in a bad car. His best season in open wheel racing was 2018 Indy Lights, where he repeatedly achieved top five finishes due to there only being seven loving cars on the grid. I guess he routinely finished on the podium in the Freedom 100, but that doesn't really make up for Never Winning Anything Ever. He is my current go-to example of a talentless driver with lots of daddy's money to buy his way into the sport. There have been lots of drivers that have come and gone even in just the last decade, some of which had real talent but never got the opportunity to develop due to sponsorship and cash flow issues, or being unable to get the attention of a decent team, or even just being unlucky on track. Kellett spent three years racing for Andretti in Indy Lights and never did jack poo poo. He never showed any skill or even signs of improvement. Yeah, the 4 is a trash entry with no real support, but I don't think there's anything the team could have done to keep him from being the worst driver on the 2021 grid. If he's retained by the team for 2022, he'll probably be the worst driver next year as well.
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Things Kellett can do that truly bad drivers cannot: *Keep it pointed the right way on track *Not run into championship contenders Worst of the field with as deep of a field Indycar has right now really isn't the insult it would have been in 1997 or even 2014.
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1997 wasn't too bad outside of Vitolo and Nearburg. Most of the drivers had accomplished things in the lower levels, even Paul Jasper.
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Reynold posted:Nah, Kellett is a bad pay driver in a bad car. His best season in open wheel racing was 2018 Indy Lights, where he repeatedly achieved top five finishes due to there only being seven loving cars on the grid. I guess he routinely finished on the podium in the Freedom 100, but that doesn't really make up for Never Winning Anything Ever. He is my current go-to example of a talentless driver with lots of daddy's money to buy his way into the sport. Kellett is actually an engineer too so he may be of more use on the pitwall TBH. I don't care too much that he's in the 4 - the car is complete junk regardless of who is driving the drat thing, but I think it's reasonable to expect it to work.
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Frond posted:Kellett is actually an engineer too so he may be of more use on the pitwall TBH. Yeah, a lot of his retirements have actually been mechanical this year.
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Reynold posted:Nah, Kellett is a bad pay driver in a bad car. His best season in open wheel racing was 2018 Indy Lights, where he repeatedly achieved top five finishes due to there only being seven loving cars on the grid. I guess he routinely finished on the podium in the Freedom 100, but that doesn't really make up for Never Winning Anything Ever. He is my current go-to example of a talentless driver with lots of daddy's money to buy his way into the sport. Well sure, but that kinda understates how bad some of the pay drivers in indycar have been. Like I don't put him on the same level as Duno, Jack Miller, Marty Roth, SLICK RACIN Gardner, Vitolo, Gache, Witherill, Matsushita, Dracone, Sperafico(s), Ho-Pin Tung, John Herb, George Mack, Will Langhorne, Rick Treadway (Jr!), Billy Roe, John de Vries, Jeret Schroeder, Tyce Carlson, Fabrizio del Monte, Camithias, Charlie Nearburg etc. poo poo, hes likely far more talented than indycar CO CHAMPION Buzz Calkins.
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Vitolo got parked at Toronto for "Handling" in 1997. A street course. He had fallen something like 28-30 seconds behind 27th placed Matsushita in 10 laps.
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Sep 30, 2021 22:39
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I should probably note to the Matsushita wasn't nearly as bad as most of the early IRL drivers - he actually was fairly successful in Atlantics believe it or no.
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Frond posted:1997 wasn't too bad outside of Vitolo and Nearburg. Most of the drivers had accomplished things in the lower levels, even Paul Jasper. I wasn't talking about 1997 CART  Oh and how can we forget EJ Viso?
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Did Christiano da Matta ever return to high level racing after he hit that deer in 2006? I could probably just look that up I guess. But that he was one driver I really liked back in the Champ Car/CART days.
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Custard Undies posted:Did Christiano da Matta ever return to high level racing after he hit that deer in 2006? I got ya. He did a couple sports car one-offs, including for Paul Gentilozzi before that Jaguar GT program folded (lol).
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Newgarden drove excellently this year.
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IMS is hosting a Good Riddance Party (or celebration of life idk) for Robin Miller. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfBip2kPYgc
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Moving a couple links over from Discord: https://twitter.com/marshallpruett/status/1445137943484461056 I’ll keep my eyes out for Racer uploading an archived version of the Miller Racer: Sato puts his 2022 IndyCar chances at 50:50 Looks like Sato’s chance would be at Dale Coyne, whether he still wants that is up to debate.
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The Robin Miller CoL is up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaSIHcdQYps
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Carlin is likely done.
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https://racer.com/2021/10/15/insight-dan-wheldons-accident-10-years-on-part-1/ https://racer.com/2021/10/16/insight-dan-wheldons-accident-10-years-on-part-2/ Two part story about the 10th anniversary of the 2011 Vegas race. 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2L0ntqKl_Q these chatlogs seem... familiar....
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Oct 18, 2021 12:43
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yes 100% that is our IRC chat
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I apparently nuked my logs at some point, but yes I can pick out my circa-2011 posting patterns in some parts of the video.
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I don't remember if I was able to manage IRC at the time from my phone at the track, but quite frankly I don't want to watch that video and figure it out. I definitely remember posting. Replaying chatlogs on that seems ghastly, honestly.
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I think he monetized the video as well.
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Frond posted:She’s frankly not very suited to open wheel cars. Her SF results have been rather poor. Yeah, although in Super Formula's equivilent of Foyt to be fair. Calderon though is pretty simple. She's an excellent racing driver and one actually doing it because she likes racing at that (unlike say, Carman Jorda) but her talents top out around LMP2, she should not have been given GP2, SF or Indycar drives.
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