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DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!




the best indycar oval race was that fontana death race where like 8 people finished, and the cars could sort of pack race but also they got massive tows that allowed huge slingshots so it wasn't really a 'pack' like you used to see at the terrifying texas races

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Frond
Mar 12, 2018


DEEP STATE PLOT posted:

the best indycar oval race was that fontana death race where like 8 people finished, and the cars could sort of pack race but also they got massive tows that allowed huge slingshots so it wasn't really a 'pack' like you used to see at the terrifying texas races

It was actually 6 cars. It also was like an endurance race. It was during the 2000 seasonís psychotic horsepower war. Casey Mears (remember him?) finished 4th.

your friend wicka
Jun 28, 2007

Huski Chocolate is a lifestyle, not only a product. It's about adventure & expedition. Living life to the fullest. It's a perfect recovery drink after training, because of the healthy carbohydrate and protein content, easy to digest and perfect for replenishing tired muscles.



IOwnCalculus posted:

I don't know how you would create more speed differential at this point though, short of perhaps trying to make the cars impossible to drive and relying on skill to separate cars.

Sounds awesome op

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!




Frond posted:

It was actually 6 cars. It also was like an endurance race. It was during the 2000 seasonís psychotic horsepower war. Casey Mears (remember him?) finished 4th.

no it definitely was not that one, although i do remember that race too.

after looking it up, i was talking about the 2013 race, since i remembered simona finishing top 10 despite wrecking early on. watching that race and sitting in irc as we all lost our minds as everyone crashed or blew up was a fantastic time.

Bentai
Jul 8, 2004


NERF THIS!




Yeah the 2012 and 2013 Fontana races were goddamn amazing.

Custard Undies
Jan 7, 2006

#essereFerrari




Frond posted:

It was actually 6 cars. It also was like an endurance race. It was during the 2000 seasonís psychotic horsepower war. Casey Mears (remember him?) finished 4th.

I loved that 2000's race so much. It was spread across 2 days because of rain, and the engines just kept exploding. Gil De Farran won the championship from that race.

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007




Back in the day, the big ovals were endurance races - both from a strategy component but also for the parts, especially engines/transmissions. Michigan, Pocono, 1990s/2000s Fontana, and of course Indianapolis are all endurance tests wrapped around going real fast.

So I definitely prefer that to an extent, plus those massive pack races lead to real trouble.

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Kanye West - Touch the Sky


harperdc posted:

Back in the day, the big ovals were endurance races - both from a strategy component but also for the parts, especially engines/transmissions. Michigan, Pocono, 1990s/2000s Fontana, and of course Indianapolis are all endurance tests wrapped around going real fast.

So I definitely prefer that to an extent, plus those massive pack races lead to real trouble.

also for all the people claiming that you need packs to make people interested, nobody gave a poo poo about the IRL and people did give a poo poo back in the 80s

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





your friend wicka posted:

Sounds awesome op

Superspeedway aero kit at Phoenix?

The Phoenix DW12 races sucked because with that much downforce, unless you got the car horribly wrong you could just throw a brick on the throttle and steer it - but then you couldn't do a thing when you were in the wake of another car.

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

Respect the power of the wind

https://speedsport.com/indy/indycar-series/indycar-notes-diversity-is-key-to-success/2/

Can't copy-paste it so here's a screenshot!



Roger is shopping around pretty hard it seems like. Looks like NBC is done after this year unless they can pay up or kiss rear end big-time. NBCSN going bye-bye is probably a huge deal here.

If they go with ABC/ESPN they're going to need to not go back to the lovely production and booth guys of the recent past. ESPN+ is $6 a month so I guess practice sessions will go there? I bet they'll show races live, at least.

If Fox gets it, they'll put practice on FS1/FS2 more than likely. Plus they can pull in more of the NASCAR crowd as more of the seasons will overlap. If there's still a streaming component, that's not just "you can watch the cable channels on the Fox GO app with authentication!!!" I wonder if this will give wiggle room for Indycar to start an OTT service?

And for the love of God, get Allen Bestwick to call the races. Maybe Dario in the booth, too?

Basticle
Sep 12, 2011




At this point I don't really care where it ends up as long as I don't have to watch and subscribe to a hundred different goddamn services just to watch all the same poo poo that Nascar has in one place

your friend wicka
Jun 28, 2007

Huski Chocolate is a lifestyle, not only a product. It's about adventure & expedition. Living life to the fullest. It's a perfect recovery drink after training, because of the healthy carbohydrate and protein content, easy to digest and perfect for replenishing tired muscles.



I hope it ends up on a network that will just show racing and not segues with drivers wandering abandoned industrial parks or Rutledge investigating yachts.

Vasukhani
Jan 13, 2019


your friend wicka posted:

I hope it ends up on a network that will just show racing and not segues with drivers wandering abandoned industrial parks or Rutledge investigating yachts.

personally im hoping for more arthouse milkgimp

Flikken
Oct 22, 2009

10,363 snaps and not a playoff win to show for it


Anyone have an idea when the single day tickets for the Nashville race will go on sale?

Number_6
Jul 23, 2006

BAN ALL GAS GUZZLERS

(except for mine)


Pillbug

It's probably too much to ask, but I'd like it to be on a network that actually covers all the key passes, pitstops etc. instead of being in commercial time for half the race.

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

raring to post



your friend wicka posted:

I hope it ends up on a network that will just show racing and not segues with drivers wandering abandoned industrial parks or Rutledge investigating yachts.


Number_6 posted:

It's probably too much to ask, but I'd like it to be on a network that actually covers all the key passes, pitstops etc. instead of being in commercial time for half the race.

but thats not any of the US networks so

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

raring to post



hey hey guys look at the calendar. look at it. what does it say






IT

IS

MAY

MOTHERFUCKERS







https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hRzRxSDTIk


Gather round children, its time for HISTORY

1982 - Shades of Things to Come

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmX08S5Pc2c#t=51s
Winner: Gordon Johncock - Patrick Racing - Wildcat/Cosworth



1989 - The Touch


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu8YwDgWxwA#t=110s
Winner: Emerson Fittipaldi - Team Penske - Penske/Chevy



1992 - The Closest Finish


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtiGra-pj5c#t=200s
Winner: Al Unser Jr. - Galles Racing - Galmer/Chevy



1999 - "Ran out of fuel... Fuuuuckkk!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U765Bc-m-uY#t=459s
Winner: Kenny Brack - AJ Foyt Racing - Dallara/Oldsmobile



2006 - The Andretti Curse


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2faJYdeEPK4
Winner: Sam Hornish Jr - Team Penske - Dallara/Honda
(the worst loving announcing team ever)



2011 - The Rookie and the Veteran

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tFV-85gyzQ
Winner: Dan Wheldon - Herta Autosport - Dallara/Honda




BONUS LIGHTS VIDEOS:

Four Wide in Indy Lights
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp1klmtsWQA

.022 Seconds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGcnbXq3B-A

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

raring to post



The Current Era


2012 - No Attack, No Chance


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrFIc6RJKGU
and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLX3OCmweO0
Winner: Dario Franchitti - Ganassi Racing - Dallara/Honda



2013 - The Fan Favorite

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkCsk_HwU6U#t=7267s
Winner: Tony Kanaan - KV Racing - Dallara/Chevy



2014 - The Yellow Car Party

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeREa0HUrXY
Winner: Ryan Hunter-Reay - Andretti Autosport - Dallara/Honda



2015 - The Drive

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyYKUKXT520#t=10656s
Winner: Juan Pablo Montoya - Team Penske - Dallara/Chevy
(really, just reset the timestamp and watch the whole drat race. Montoya's drive in this race is just incredible)

Also: https://www.instagram.com/p/3FiPseGyYs/



2016 - "Clutch and Coast!"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7BZrwSLSZE
Winner: Alexander Rossi - Andretti/Herta Autosport - Dallara/Honda



2017 - The One That Got Away Comes Back

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhOqhXTDjKY#t=189s
Winner: Takuma Sato - Andretti Autosport - Dallara/Honda



2018 - Show Me Respect, Motherfucker


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3F5gaGtSOI
Winner: Will Power - Penske Racing - Dallara/Chevy




2019 - Norman's Pride


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOUW1kHBm_A#t=1486s
Winner: Simon Pagenaud - Penske Racing - Dallara/Chevy

MazeOfTzeentch
May 2, 2009

rip miso beno


Time to blast Delta Force on repeat for a month straight

hunnert car pileup
Oct 28, 2007

the first world was a mistake



MazeOfTzeentch posted:

Time to blast Delta Force on repeat for a month straight

fawk yeah

Vasukhani
Jan 13, 2019


rain race here we go

Custard Undies
Jan 7, 2006

#essereFerrari




Just rolled out of bed, turned on the TV and the race is just starting. Pretty happy about that!

GutBomb
Jun 15, 2005

Dude?


For anyone interested thereís a bunch of 45 minute condensed Indy 500s on ESPN+. Earliest one is 1967 I think.

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007




GutBomb posted:

For anyone interested thereís a bunch of 45 minute condensed Indy 500s on ESPN+. Earliest one is 1967 I think.

Interesting - that has to be ABC/ESPNís own doing because theyíre not connected at all to IndyCar now. Sounds like a good way to catch up on a lot of history, though.

Basticle
Sep 12, 2011




There are a bunch on IMS' youtube channel as well

Number_6
Jul 23, 2006

BAN ALL GAS GUZZLERS

(except for mine)


Pillbug

The Texas race was a lot better when they could run a higher line and keep the cars wheel-to-wheel longer. What's wrong with that new track surface?

Edit: or I could have just Googled before posting:

"Last year, a resin called PJ1 was applied to the 1.5-mile oval in hopes it would help the NASCAR shows with overtaking but it had an adverse effect on IndyCars as Scott Dixon dominated (leading 157 of 200 laps) in what was primarily a one-groove race. But, in preparation for the May 1-2 doubleheader, TMS president Eddie Gossage and his crew have been working flat out to remove the PJ1 and hopefully restore the kind of side-by-side competition thatís been delivered since 1997."

Number_6 fucked around with this message at 20:31 on May 2, 2021

Reynold
Feb 14, 2012

Suffer not the unclean to live.

Number_6 posted:

The Texas race was a lot better when they could run a higher line and keep the cars wheel-to-wheel longer. What's wrong with that new track surface?

Edit: or I could have just Googled before posting:

"Last year, a resin called PJ1 was applied to the 1.5-mile oval in hopes it would help the NASCAR shows with overtaking but it had an adverse effect on IndyCars as Scott Dixon dominated (leading 157 of 200 laps) in what was primarily a one-groove race. But, in preparation for the May 1-2 doubleheader, TMS president Eddie Gossage and his crew have been working flat out to remove the PJ1 and hopefully restore the kind of side-by-side competition thatís been delivered since 1997."

It's a surface put down by NASCAR for extra grip, but it doesn't play well with the rubber of Indycar tires. They pretty much ruined the track for Indycar by doing this. I was optimistic early on, but Texas isn't the same now. Sucks.

kidcoelacanth
Sep 23, 2009



as an added bonus, it doesn't make the nascar races any better either!

Reynold
Feb 14, 2012

Suffer not the unclean to live.

Seriously. Gossage was an idiot for that. Indycar should dump Texas and go to Iowa next year instead. Hell, I'd rather see CotA and drop another oval than do some single lane BS at Texas.

Vasukhani
Jan 13, 2019


Reynold posted:

It's a surface put down by NASCAR for extra grip, but it doesn't play well with the rubber of Indycar tires. They pretty much ruined the track for Indycar by doing this. I was optimistic early on, but Texas isn't the same now. Sucks.

Its actually not on the track, they've literally removed it and whats left is some odd chemical stain

Reynold
Feb 14, 2012

Suffer not the unclean to live.

Vasukhani posted:

Its actually not on the track, they've literally removed it and whats left is some odd chemical stain

When they start running in the black I'll stop complaining. Also, lmao PIETRO WHAT HAVE YOU DONE

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

Respect the power of the wind

Reynold posted:

PIETRO WHAT HAVE YOU DONE

The Indy racing Gods have a long memory

bennyfactor
Nov 21, 2008


https://twitter.com/AlexanderRossi/status/1388986034164224007

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007




WindyMan posted:

The Indy racing Gods have a long memory



I was young when it happened but old enough to understand this was not really normal.

Reynold
Feb 14, 2012

Suffer not the unclean to live.

Hell yeah O'Ward! Too bad about Sato's bad pit stop, but this race got a little exciting at times. I still say that PJ1 areas have greatly diminished this track's appeal. Just watching people back way out of passes over and over again because they can't run those lanes in this state was frustrating.

Vasukhani
Jan 13, 2019


https://twitter.com/ZBrownCEO/status/1388997482290597894

dsriggs
May 28, 2012

MONEY FALLS...

...FROM THE SKY...

...WHENEVER HE POSTS!


https://twitter.com/RACERmag/status/1389252093249081345

Uncle Bobby

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007




Uncle Bobby is up at the pearly gates trying to explain both why so many rental cars died an early death, and something about turkeys.

With time and distance more of the stories of a young Bobby Unser have been told more freely in recent years, leading to some fantastic fun. If you only remember him as an Indy 500 winner, or as commentator for ABC for a long time, go back and catch some of this as well. From 2018:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0CaYumlHu0

devmd01
Mar 7, 2006

Elektronik
Supersonik


Now itís may!



Now give me another week and Iíll be fully covered from my 2nd shot, so letís do this!

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IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





Getting my second dose tomorrow. I'll be protected from the terrible secret of space just in time.

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