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fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012


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fool of sound fucked around with this message at 01:19 on Apr 28, 2021

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FLIPADELPHIA
Apr 27, 2007




Grimey Drawer

The framing of a "news" thread rather than a politics one is really interesting and it's good the mods are trying new things to keep the forum orderly while retaining the quality of posting.

I still can't believe the governor of OK used the Murrah Bombing pulpit to rail against cancel culture. We've been through a decade of horrific poo poo but man, that one really stunned me.

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through


FLIPADELPHIA posted:

The framing of a "news" thread rather than a politics one is really interesting and it's good the mods are trying new things to keep the forum orderly while retaining the quality of posting.

agree, i'd mostly stopped reading the last thread as it was too focused and frankly too heated a lot of the time

zoux
Apr 28, 2006



Joesph RR Biden has commented on the obvious

https://twitter.com/seungminkim/status/1384540682388393986

This is leading to shirt rending and teeth gnashing....on both sides

https://twitter.com/pbump/status/1384541054691577859

https://twitter.com/JonahDispatch/status/1384537984939302914

Norm's are back baby awoooooo *wolf howl*


https://twitter.com/SenSchumer/status/1384548964566028290

Thread question: would you smoke out Charles Schumer. Second question: If you say "smoke up" instead of "smoke out" - what the gently caress is wrong with you?

Cheesus
Oct 17, 2002

Let us retract the foreskin of ignorance and apply the wirebrush of enlightenment.

Yam Slacker

Handsome Ralph posted:

I gotta wonder if they're coming out in full force because there's a strategy there or if it's because "gently caress it, it sounds nice to say out loud".
I'm cynical as poo poo when it comes to the left being effective at planning and executing anything, but from what I've seen so far this year from their actions and mouths since January is way beyond my incredibly low expectations.

I want to believe in both when it comes to moves like this. Even if its a currently unplanned strategy, I can't wait to see if there is any effect on midterms results if they run on the message, "We tried to do X,Y, Z, but we didn't have enough members in Congress; we need your votes for the House/Senate to make them happen!"

Fritz the Horse
Dec 26, 2019

... of course!



To contribute:

https://twitter.com/JStein_WaPo/status/1384493137213726723

Some details on Biden's second big package, this time focused on "families"

Universal pre-K and community college?

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

Johnny Pussy?



Cheesus posted:

I'm cynical as poo poo when it comes to the left being effective at planning and executing anything, but from what I've seen so far this year from their actions and mouths since January is way beyond my incredibly low expectations.

I want to believe in both when it comes to moves like this. Even if its a currently unplanned strategy, I can't wait to see if there is any effect on midterms results if they run on the message, "We tried to do X,Y, Z, but we didn't have enough members in Congress; we need your votes for the House/Senate to make them happen!"

I think (and it's been said by others much better than me) that Biden's long term experience in the Senate really is helping them out here. He knows how to effectively frame things so they have half a chance of getting through the Senate/Congress, which is something that I think that presidents with no or little senate/congressional experience with often struggled with.

Gatts
Jan 2, 2001

Goodnight Moon


Nap Ghost

I would like to know when the Dems are putting in HR1 and Infrastructure Bill for vote.

Fritz the Horse posted:



To contribute:

https://twitter.com/JStein_WaPo/status/1384493137213726723

Some details on Biden's second big package, this time focused on "families"

Universal pre-K and community college?

This is good news.

Gatts fucked around with this message at 16:56 on Apr 20, 2021

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005









Vilsack is doing a thing, which is cancelling the Farmers to Families Food Box Program.

https://gottobenc.com/usda-announces-continuation-of-the-farmers-to-families-food-box-program/

quote:

The Farmers To Families Food Box Program – U.S. Secretary of Agriculture Sonny Perdue announced the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) will purchase an additional $1.5 billion worth of food for nationwide distribution through the Farmers to Families Food Box Program. In total, USDA has distributed more than 132 million food boxes in support of American farmers and families affected by the COVID-19 pandemic.

“This new round of Farmers to Families Food Boxes will go a long way in helping American families access nutritious and healthy meals as we recover from the COVID-19 pandemic,” said Secretary Perdue.

This was started in the 2nd quarter of 2020, and if you were assuming it was just full of corruption and grift, you'd be right. Fun reminder that Perdue responded to correct claims of him using his office for a corrupt land deal by denying he made as much money as was claimed. Basically "I didn't do that well so you're lying."

Lots of links here

https://xtalks.com/why-the-usda-can...%20last%20week.

quote:

Almost immediately, food banks began reporting that deliveries were not arriving, that the boxes were falling apart and that the produce was in poor condition. The program distributed food boxes to around 2,100 of the country’s 3,006 counties, leaving around 1,000 areas without service. Food banks were forced to pick up the slack and incurred thousands of dollars in extra delivery costs.

The program faced extensive criticism about how it allocated its $5.5 billion worth of funding. Contracts went to illegitimate distributors, mediocre food boxes were given to families in need and food banks were forced to step in when the inequitable program didn’t. This is not to say that the program was not helpful to any families or farmers, but the Biden administration had reasons to bail.

The cutoff to apply for this? 75% of your farms AGI being under 900k.

And you could also get relief funds if you grew tobacco or turf sod lmao



The only reason I heard about it?

https://twitter.com/RepCawthorn/status/1384545431967965187?s=20

So if it pisses off Madison it's a good move. If want to help hungry families, expand SNAP and WIC benefits. Don't send them boxes of brown lettuce.

sit on my Facebook
Jun 20, 2007

ASS GAS OR GRASS
No One Rides for FREE
In the Trumplord Holy Land

FLIPADELPHIA posted:

The framing of a "news" thread rather than a politics one is really interesting and it's good the mods are trying new things to keep the forum orderly while retaining the quality of posting.

I still can't believe the governor of OK used the Murrah Bombing pulpit to rail against cancel culture. We've been through a decade of horrific poo poo but man, that one really stunned me.

Kevin Stitt is low-key the worst governor in country. The man is as dumb as a loving post and constantly pops off with poo poo like that.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Shitposting 24/7 without regrets. my parents would be proud.



https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1384544678356439045 New mass shooting at a grocery.

FLIPADELPHIA
Apr 27, 2007




Grimey Drawer

Fritz the Horse posted:


Some details on Biden's second big package, this time focused on "families"

Universal pre-K and community college?

This would be a serious game changer for most of the families I know, mine included. The extended tax credit alone would be tens of thousands of dollars for us. Just, wow.

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

AFC NORTH PITY FUCK


Gatts posted:

I would like to know when the Dems are putting in HR1 and Infrastructure Bill for vote.

Good question about HR1. I thought that the Infrastructure Bill is still being crafted, though. That might take a while.

The Sean
Apr 16, 2005

Am I handsome now?





It only took one page of the new thread for this to happen.

Deteriorata
Feb 6, 2005

The general increasing love of athletics is benefiting our young men, and making their lives better and more worth the living.

Gatts posted:

I would like to know when the Dems are putting in HR1 and Infrastructure Bill for vote.

Don't know about HR1 but Biden has asked the Republicans for a serious infrastucture counterproposal by May. If they can deliver any kind of meaningful response, there may be some compromise and an actual bill sometime in June.

There's no hard schedule for it, though. Lots of caucusing to see what the Democrats themselves can agree to support, apart from what the Republicans may want.

I'm not holding my breath on any sort of meaningful response from the Republicans, anyway, so that may speed it up a bit.

We'll probably see a fairly solid package coming together sometime this summer.

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009


Fritz the Horse posted:



To contribute:

https://twitter.com/JStein_WaPo/status/1384493137213726723

Some details on Biden's second big package, this time focused on "families"

Universal pre-K and community college?

I know it is to help out families with children living at home through their 20's, but I can already feel the "Socialism causes arrested development. 25 is a child now?!? Should we raise the voting age to 25?" commentary coming.

Ms Adequate
Oct 29, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling






The US really decided to make up for lost time huh? Though it is wild how it seems to suggest a bunch of people were sitting around respectiving Covid restrictions and stuff and are now going "Finally, the lockdown is lifted, I can go on that shooting spree I've been planning for six months!".

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005




Toilet Rascal

Ms Adequate posted:

The US really decided to make up for lost time huh? Though it is wild how it seems to suggest a bunch of people were sitting around respectiving Covid restrictions and stuff and are now going "Finally, the lockdown is lifted, I can go on that shooting spree I've been planning for six months!".

"I would go on a shooting spree, but the gun store has a mask requirement"

zoux
Apr 28, 2006



haveblue posted:

"I would go on a shooting spree, but the gun store has a mask requirement"

There's no way that's true

https://twitter.com/fineout/status/1384551935823470594

NCAA has basically strangled this nascent "we're just trying to protect women's sports" back door bigotry in its crib

Kalit
Nov 6, 2006


Fritz the Horse posted:



To contribute:

https://twitter.com/JStein_WaPo/status/1384493137213726723

Some details on Biden's second big package, this time focused on "families"

Universal pre-K and community college?

I wonder if this is also going to include free public university tuition for families of <$125k. This article doesn't say much about that aspect of it. Overall though, this looks like a good start.

Antifa Turkeesian
Aug 20, 2006



zoux posted:

There's no way that's true

https://twitter.com/fineout/status/1384551935823470594

NCAA has basically strangled this nascent "we're just trying to protect women's sports" back door bigotry in its crib

Do they have multiple variations of that bill going on, or was that another state?

Bishyaler
Dec 30, 2009

Escape will make me god.

Megamarm

Military occupation, police attacking protesters and journalists happening in a blue state, with a blue governor, with a blue president in the White House.


https://twitter.com/Mont_Jiang/status/1384150000318353416?s=20

https://twitter.com/MichaelEast1983/status/1384219359275405313?s=20

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

zoux
Apr 28, 2006



Antifa Turkeesian posted:

Do they have multiple variations of that bill going on, or was that another state?

Multiple states have tried this. Kristi Noem ended up having to veto the very bill she pushed after the NCAA told her what time it is. The one that passed one house here got referred to a Dem-chaired Education Committee so that one is probably dead too.

There's a second prong to this ("this" being some ALEC manufactured culture war wedge issue ), that's the banning of trans affirming health care for minors, which is getting blowback from businesses rather than the NCAA. That's the bill that the AR legislature overrode Asa Hutchinson's veto on.

zoux fucked around with this message at 17:11 on Apr 20, 2021

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!


Oh drat, I used to go there pretty often. It's been years though.

FLIPADELPHIA
Apr 27, 2007




Grimey Drawer

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

I know it is to help out families with children living at home through their 20's, but I can already feel the "Socialism causes arrested development. 25 is a child now?!? Should we raise the voting age to 25?" commentary coming.

The great thing about lovely people espousing bad faith opinions is that they are super easy to ignore.

FuturePastNow
May 19, 2014




US News and World Mod Report

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?





Antifa Turkeesian posted:

Do they have multiple variations of that bill going on, or was that another state?
One version passed the state senate and one version passed the state house

The legislative session effectively ended last Friday so they were basically out of time to keep working on it

Ague Proof
Jun 5, 2014

they told me
I was everything


Antifa Turkeesian posted:

Do they have multiple variations of that bill going on, or was that another state?

It's over 33 states.

ReidRansom
Oct 25, 2004





^^^ahh, an ALEC SPECIAL
e: I see that has already been pointed otu

Handsome Ralph posted:

In other news,
https://twitter.com/Yamiche/status/1384516605334405121

I gotta wonder if they're coming out in full force because there's a strategy there or if it's because "gently caress it, it sounds nice to say out loud". Hoping for the former but expecting the later with Manchin and Sinema being the deciding votes.

The bit I always wonder about with this is how it will be organized. If the city and the state comprise the exact same area and borders, do they still need to form separate governments for each political entity? Or do you just keep the one and add/rename departments as some functions get inherited from the federal government? Really interested to see what the plan is.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006



https://twitter.com/kristin__wilson/status/1384551448218853376

Wow, actual hardball from Dem leadership

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009


ReidRansom posted:

^^^ahh, an ALEC SPECIAL


The bit I always wonder about with this is how it will be organized. If the city and the state comprise the exact same area and borders, do they still need to form separate governments for each political entity? Or do you just keep the one and add/rename departments as some functions get inherited from the federal government? Really interested to see what the plan is.

The most recent bill re-designated the Mayor as the Governor and the City Council as the General Assembly. The state government would be unicameral and they would not incorporate any additional towns or cities in the state.

Silly Burrito
Nov 26, 2007

Thank you, Drew.



This plus this:

https://twitter.com/Yamiche/status/1384516605334405121?s=19

Frankly has me amazed at how the Biden administration has pretty much surpassed my expectations already at what they would try to do. I realize they may not get it all, but dammit at least it's something.

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009


Silly Burrito posted:

This plus this:

https://twitter.com/Yamiche/status/1384516605334405121?s=19

Frankly has me amazed at how the Biden administration has pretty much surpassed my expectations already at what they would try to do. I realize they may not get it all, but dammit at least it's something.

To be fair, the Obama administration supported D.C. statehood too. This is a little better because the Obama administration's position was that D.C. should be a state, but they didn't really push to bring a bill to a vote.

Jagged Jim
Sep 25, 2013

I... I can only look though the window...


Gatts posted:

I would like to know when the Dems are putting in HR1 and Infrastructure Bill for vote.


This is good news.

HR1 passed the House earlier this month so I imagine they're going to start working it's way through the Senate soon-ish. I have no idea what the timetable for that is, though.

Kirios
Jan 25, 2010




I swear there's a mass shooting every day in this loving country.

Dang It Bhabhi!
May 27, 2004

Every idiot can count to one.


Kalit posted:

I wonder if this is also going to include free public university tuition for families of <$125k. This article doesn't say much about that aspect of it. Overall though, this looks like a good start.

Hate to kill the suspense but nope. Not from these folks.

Vichan
Oct 1, 2014

I'LL PUNISH YOU ACCORDING TO YOUR CRIME


Great news! What are the chances that this'll actually pass? (Not American)

Kaal
May 22, 2002

JEREMY CORBYN BULLIED MY NAZI GRANDPA IN PRIMARY SCHOOL



Vichan posted:

Great news! What are the chances that this'll actually pass? (Not American)

Better than it ever has been previously. Obviously it will still require complete solidarity in the Democratic Party though, so it remains difficult.

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009


Jagged Jim posted:

HR1 passed the House earlier this month so I imagine they're going to start working it's way through the Senate soon-ish. I have no idea what the timetable for that is, though.

According to Gov Tracker, the most recent update was a hearing on April 14th and there is a hearing on it in a different committee later this week. No date scheduled for the final committee vote yet.

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zoux
Apr 28, 2006



Kirios posted:

I swear there's a mass shooting every day in this loving country.

Pretty sure there is, just not all of them are "active shooter" domestic terrorists.

Vichan posted:

Great news! What are the chances that this'll actually pass? (Not American)

Very low

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

According to Gov Tracker, the most recent update was a hearing on April 14th and there is a hearing on it in a different committee later this week. No date scheduled for the final committee vote yet.

I've heard - though I haven't read the bill of course - that as far as a drafted piece of legislation, HR1 is pretty bad. Sounds very Christmas-tree, loaded with all sorts of individual rep pet projects and unintended consequences. For example, one issue I saw was the automatic voter registration provision could accidentally register non-citizens to vote, since non-citizens can receive government IDs, and open them up to a whole new world of federal elections violations. The goals are good but as far as the details go, it needs a lot of work.

zoux fucked around with this message at 17:45 on Apr 20, 2021

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