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Should troll Fancy Pelosi be allowed to stay?
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Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!

Oh drat, I used to go there pretty often. It's been years though.

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Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Rare good news.

But, now we're a month away from seeing how many people will absolutely refuse to be vaccinated no matter the consequences. My faith in the the remaining holdouts is not high.

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1384927440888373249
https://twitter.com/mviser/status/1384927062704656386
https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1384930007324184582

That's pretty impressive and we've certainly not plateaued yet. Here in NC, we're still 2 weeks away from the point where the vast majority of people will be able to start getting 2nd doses. It will be interesting to see when the plateau does happen though.

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!

haveblue posted:

To be fair, I think he's trying to say "no chance of getting a fair trial". Of course to them the fair trial is the one that acquits him so it does still show a lot of rear end

Yeah, it's the go-to Fox News galaxy brain take: "They're just so biased because of the media that it's impossible for them to be fair, therefore the right thing to do is nothing"

I've heard many variations on this and even bought into it myself for a time. It's the Protestant "all have sinned" doctrine twisted into a nihilism which conveniently shows up only when you don't want to address an uncomfortable truth, rather than what it's supposed to be, which is a realization that people on your team can be awful and should be held accountable for it.

See also: every rational human being "biased" against Trump for constantly bombarding all of us with criminal stupidity that makes us hate him

Sir Lemming fucked around with this message at 16:27 on Apr 22, 2021

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!

Dapper_Swindler posted:

i just wanted to boost this to the new page because its even more insane than i thought it would be.

This is actually kind of sad in a way, the guy is so Fox News brain poisoned that he can't enjoy anything anymore. It's almost like they are in fact "the media" that they're always railing against for brainwashing people and ruining everybody's fun...

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!

evilweasel posted:

i have to believe this means barr leaked to guliani he better start shredding docs

Unfortunately for Giuliani, what he thought was a paper shredder was actually a fax machine

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!

I expected better from you, Marianne Williamson

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!

Heck Yes! Loam! posted:

Statement from Gulianis lawyer is bananas

https://twitter.com/RVAwonk/status/1387793288451825668

It is crazy how a huge group of people have basically gone insane together

Why would you capitalize "Biden Crime" but then not capitalize "family"

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!

Grammarchist posted:

I think the media has a tendency to ignore that Trump was an incumbent president and, as unpopular as he was among most, that still gave him a lot of power to set the narrative. We saw a similar spike in minority religious support when W won re-election, driven by his religious rhetoric and policy:

True, I do think to some extent Trump had a rare "reverse incumbent effect" where people were sick of him, but the traditional incumbent effect was probably still there in some way. Combined with all the pandemic stuff, vote by mail, etc. it all makes for just a very unpredictable election that's difficult to analyze even now.

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!

Antifa Turkeesian posted:

I'm pretty surprised that fox couldn't make that one stick. They really are in trouble with trying to find a narrative that will stick. They used to be so good at it--brown mustard on a hamburger, a tan suit after labor day--what has happened to fox news?

I'm wondering if there might also be some form of the Boy Who Cried Wolf effect, not in the sense that Fox viewers don't believe there's a wolf anymore, but more in the sense that everything is a wolf now, so it's hard to remember exactly what they're supposed to do about it

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!

zoux posted:

https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1389935264420687872

Huh, didn't know SCOTUS has original jurisdiction over all private oversight board decisions

By decree of the US Supreme Court, Timmy must hereby allow Johnny into his tree house, except on Opposite Day.

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!

Bel Shazar posted:

It is a mistake to do anything but ridicule or ignore anyone spouting such bullshit. Any other form of engagement gives them a measure of legitimacy they should never, ever have.

Antifa Turkeesian posted:

There's zero chance that they're seeing you as anything other than an adversary to overcome, even if they're just trying to reassure themselves that they're right by talking to you and not put on a show for somebody else.

I might be making some assumptions here, but the thing that makes this so hard is that in many cases, these people do have "legitimacy" and they at least generally do seem to see you as more than an adversary to overcome. In my experience, these are real people who seem to have functioning brains. But then on a dime, they seem to mutate into Twitter trolls who want to burn down any semblance of truth and reasonable discourse.

I'm not saying I have a good answer. But I feel like "ignore them" is not really a sustainable strategy. Even though that's pretty much what I try to do.

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!

Space Cadet Omoly posted:

Has anyone ever been successfully canceled?

Lowtax I guess...

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!

zoux posted:

https://twitter.com/ArthurDelaneyHP/status/1392487174654861322

Oh my god all the sins against conservativism committed by Trump are gonna turn out to be the evil machinations of the Liberal Liz Cheney!

This is quite a phenomenon, somebody should come up with a name for it. Perhaps name it after McCarthy.



PIZZA.BAT posted:

My personal conspiracy theory is that while a lot of politicians are cowards and are simply going along with Trumpism because it's their best shot at holding office there's a not-insignificant portion of them who are compromised by foreign intelligence agencies that are cooperating with Trump. I have literally no evidence to back this up but it's telling seeing how many prominent players have simply resigned rather than try to stand against this.

Remember how a lot of us expected them to pretend they never supported Trump as soon as the election was over, so they could portray themselves as "the adults in the room" and hold on to as much of the remaining GOP voters as possible?

I think what happened is, they still want that end result, but they've calculated that their best chance is not by being the adults in the room.

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!

Spiritus Nox posted:

Why do all these failsons have the exact same hosed-up face

didn't even read the tweet smh

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!

TulliusCicero posted:

You can't inform people about facts who are wilfully and proudly stupid. That's what the GOP brand is

They don't care if Dems gave them desperately needed money: Dems bad, does not compute


Trump MAGA :byodood:

To be "fair", most people only care who the president is; and simply due to the timing, most of the stimulus either happened or originated during the Trump administration, regardless of who in Congress was actually behind it.

When those monthly child tax credits start rolling in, it certainly might affect this perception.

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!

TulliusCicero posted:

Yeah I see NC flipping much like Georgia. There's a growing transplant community of blue states there to the cities.

Yeah it's definitely a potential Georgia situation. It's a red state, until it isn't.

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!

zoux posted:


Also I keep meaning to post this in here because, lol
https://twitter.com/AnthonySabatini/status/1395524167781527552

Out philosophizing with my friends in society, nbd #knowUrself #just #philosopherThings

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!
I think it's more of a TV Trope, we want to root for the inexperienced main character and it's satisfying to see him own everyone who said he couldn't make it (because he's me). If you're actually working somewhere IRL then it's usually the opposite, you're the "experienced" one who doesn't want to lift a finger to help the new guy.

But because the government is viewed as one big TV show, the first maxim applies.

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!

Nonsense posted:

Democrats have no choice but to actually win more Senate seats, make it happen, Manchin does as he pleases.

It really sucks that the guy challenging Thillis in NC wasn't able to keep it in his drat pants. I know there's a pretty good chance it wouldn't have changed anything, but it seemed pretty close for a while there.

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!
Abolishing the filibuster feels pretty politically safe to me. It takes like at least 5 minutes to explain it. Fox News will tell people to be mad about it for a week, then everyone will get bored and barely remember it happening. Hell, before all this I bet most people thought it was still a thing. (I think I did.)

Riptor posted:

Really? Several pregnant friends of mine have been vaccinated

The official line is "we're currently more worried about what would happen to a pregnant woman who gets COVID, so probably go ahead and get it" but they still have no real way of guaranteeing whether the vaccine would mess with a pregnancy. (Obviously, since it takes at least ≈9 months to find out.) Even more tried and true vaccines are often not recommended for pregnant women. So yeah, that's one of the cases where I get why people wouldn't get the vaccine.

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!
It's hard to quantify exactly how the committee benefits from having Cheney on it, but I don't see any way it could really hurt either. It's not like they're making economic policy together or something. This is one specific issue which by all rights should be bipartisan, and the bigger surprise is that she's the only R willing to show up.

This space reserved for me to contradict myself when she shows up at the 2024 DNC

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!

Sodomy Hussein posted:

Y'all are really putting a lot more thought into this than the guy who wrote the card did.

It also feels like we have CPAC every two months now, which makes this kind of poo poo less notable than ever.

Yeah seriously, hasn't there already been one that had Trump's first post-insurrection speech or whatever? Logically that couldn't possibly have been very long ago...

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!
Meanwhile on Fox News: "Democratic Socialists ignore Cuban protesters railing against communist dictatorship"

Almost like those are 2 different things... :thunk:

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!

zoux posted:

We're going to learn a hard lesson about infectious diseases over the next 50 years. Well, we'll be given a lesson on it, I'm skeptical we'll learn much.

Half the country will have already predicted that it would happen, and the other half will learn... that it's actually the liberals' fault for just being so dang mean about vaccines all this time.

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!
What pisses me off most of all, at a deeply personal level, is how much of the pushback against "white privilege" and related concepts is coming from professed Christians. If anything we should be first in line to talk about that stuff. It would be like getting personally offended when a preacher says "all have sinned". "What do you mean I'm a sinner?!" I mean that's actually our whole deal, or at least it's supposed to be. The idea that sin is so pervasive that it affects everything, literally even the soil, and it's in all of us from birth and has to be constantly fought even after "salvation". There are even explicit biblical examples of "national" sins that stick around for several generations until they're properly dealt with, even though nobody currently alive actually committed them.

I really, truly hate the fact that this is so hard for us.

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!
Woke up to 900 Biden Bux in my bank account, pretty sweet. Hope it's going this smoothly for everyone else.

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

There used to be a middle-aged black guy who would contest his traffic tickets and child support payments by sending his "Moorish Passport" that identified him as a "Moorish Citizen of the World - recognized under the United States of America's Treaty of Tripoli," which means he is only bound by Moorish law (which coincidentally doesn't recognize child support or traffic tickets).

I'll bet that was also his response whenever the moon hit his eye like a big pizza pie.

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!

Handsome Ralph posted:

Seems another Trump advisor (Tom Barrack) has been arrested and charged for failure to register as a foreign agent for the UAE among other things.

https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1417555089926074373

DOJ press release here
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/former-advisor-presidential-candidate-among-three-defendants-charged-acting-agents-foreign

Indictment linked in this tweet
https://twitter.com/ZoeTillman/status/1417557763106947075

A guy named Barrack who is secretly foreign? Dammit it's always projection with these guys.

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!

Medullah posted:

I get super angry about the Fauci email "scandal". Everyone with half a brain was saying either "we're not sure masks work" or "masks work, but there is a shortage so please let Frontline workers get them first". The "bombshells" they dropped are consistent with a virologist who didn't have all the information at the time, and changed his stance as new information came in.

It's even simpler than that really. For the first few months the messaging was "stay home". There was no reason to wear masks because you weren't going anywhere. Later, the messaging became "ok I guess we have no choice but to let you go places now, but wear masks. Deal?"

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!

FizFashizzle posted:

Official confirmation that the FBI happily passed the buck to the white house when it came to confirming :kav:

https://twitter.com/brianefallon/status/1418251301343879168?s=20

We'll truly never know the depths of depravity he went to in that Yankees tickets money laundering scam he got in to.

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!

the_steve posted:

At some point though, he's going to die or otherwise become physically/mentally incapable of reminding everyone what a dumpster fire he is.
And when he does finally leave the stage (one way or another), there are going to be plenty of self-proclaimed heirs to his will and legacy who will work tirelessly to sand down the memories of him to just "savvy businessman who wasn't afraid to speak his mind" in order to benefit themselves.

I still disagree with this, though only time will tell. If you go far enough into the future, sure, every old dead guy kind of seems a little less awful than when they were alive, I guess. But I don't think he'll be a Reagan or a W, I think he'll be a Nixon. Personality-wise he was much more in that vein. Just a miserable guy all around, but one who promised to be strong or whatever. Nixon's resignation certainly contributes to him being seen as indefensible, because nobody likes a loser, but to everyone not on the Trump train I think the capitol riot plays a similar role. The worst possible ending to an already terrible presidency. Oh and the whole double impeachment thing I guess...

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!

zoux posted:

https://twitter.com/kthorjensen/status/1419707399628369928

We should've caught on when he posed with 80% scale Jimmy and Rosalynn Carter :thunk:

Isn't the truth more obvious?

Bigger Biden, commonly abbreviated to BB, or more uncommonly BgB, is the slightly larger manifestation of Joe Biden that is said to appear in certain press conferences, contrasting to Regular Biden.

The appearance of Bigger Biden at a particular press conference is generally, but not always, judged relative to the height of Jen Psaki, and as such Jen is the primary go-to frame of reference amongst Bigger Biden Theorists. Because of this, "No Jen Pics"(commonly abbreviated to NJP) are generally discouraged, as it is very difficult to determine Biden's height without Jen Psaki as a constant frame of reference. Whilst uncommon, the use of other White House staff to judge Biden's height are not unheard of. The second most common character to judge if Bigger Biden is in the video or not has generally been Nancy Pelosi, followed closely by Vice President Harris. The activity of combing White House press footage for instances of Bigger Biden is known as Bidening.

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!
I think everyone knows Trump being impeached + convicted, or arrested for some other thing, is not going to materially change most people's lives. But it would most likely prevent the not-impossible situation of him being elected again, so yeah, that would be a big deal.

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!
I'm not saying this in a "I told you so" sort of way, but I hope Cuomo's resignation is some measure of reassurance to those who thought the #MeToo movement was dead in the water. This actually feels to me like the most high-profile consequence of the movement so far -- a belligerent high-ranking politician who probably could've chosen to ride it out instead. Previously it's mostly just been actors losing royalties or whatever; politicians have been largely untouchable unless they're (1) not actually powerful or (2) have a soul

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!

Willa Rogers posted:


No, I'm not reassured in the least, and I Don't Gotta Hand It to Him.

What the hell, I'm not trying to "hand it to him" or anything. Whether he resigned or got impeached, the fact is there was enough pressure to get him out of office whereas there probably wouldn't have been a decade ago. I don't see how that's not significant.

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

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zoux posted:

https://twitter.com/RepMoBrooks/status/1428422048368533515

Am I reading this wrong or is Representative Mo Brooks encouraging this

It's a pretty played-out format, but this slots perfectly into

Nobody:

Rep Mo Brooks:

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

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Flopsy posted:

I'll be honest poo poo like this sometimes genuinely makes me wonder how we survived as a species. There's dumb and then there's "gently caress you! I'll gargle bleach if I wanna! What? that trigger you lib?"

Maybe I'm too optimistic, but I do think the vast majority of people still aren't really like this. Most people are sitting on the sidelines watching this crap play out. They should be actively fighting against the stupidity, but they've settled on a wishy-washy "not my place to judge" thing.

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

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ILL Machina posted:

Biden's Building Back Better Billet

Biden's BBBBB.

The extra B is for BYOBB

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!

Not nearly hetero enough

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Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

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Arc Hammer posted:

"We will hunt you down and make you pay."

gently caress off with this blood vengeance garbage, Biden.

Wait till he hears where they are.


"Don't make me turn this plane around mister!"

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