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Should troll Fancy Pelosi be allowed to stay?
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Yes 160 32.92%
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Morrow
Oct 31, 2010

Handsome Ralph posted:

Will be funny to watch him thread the needle of "I wrote in "Ronald Reagan" when I voted in 2020". Just gonna be an onslaught for that alone.

Yeah, at the end of the day only crazy is getting through the primary. 2016 was a slow burn of more and more Republicans abandoning anything but blind hate as they coalesced around Trump while the rest of the field whittled itself down. In 2024 they're going to embrace it right out of the gate and the only question is whether it'll be Trump himself or a Trump-endorsed candidate.

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Morrow
Oct 31, 2010
At the end of the day the last year has shredded the reputation of USPS, so it doesn't matter what his long term plan is.

Morrow
Oct 31, 2010

CommieGIR posted:

the two stolen SCOTUS seats are paying off in spades for the GOP's view on criminal reform

https://twitter.com/mjs_DC/status/1385271674333970433?s=20

Kennedy sold his seat, remember that.

Morrow
Oct 31, 2010
The only way to have a successful relationship with Trump is to avoid all contact. He sees everything as a zero sum game, and is utterly selfish, so he will always seek to extract as much value from you as possible and give as little as possible.

Morrow
Oct 31, 2010
It's a positive feedback loop as the party gets increasingly divorced from reality. Eventually something has to give, and it's not reality. The question is how much damage will happen along the way.

Also, arguing with gun nuts is a lost cause. There's no debate here: they will stop any meaningful reform until the flood gates open and their political power is broken absolutely.

Morrow
Oct 31, 2010

TulliusCicero posted:

I keep wondering if this is going to happen to Romney, but I have a feeling that this particular punishment is because Liz is a woman who talked bad about Trump, and the GOP is slavishly devoted to a mysognist pig and run on an openly mysognist platform.

Like other GOP members voted in favor if impeachment: why just Cheney?

Cheney was a member of the leadership and from an established political dynasty. She's not a backbencher who is going to retire anyway.

Cheney's job involves fundraising and election strategy, and her outspoken stances on "truth" and "democracy" get in the way of that.

Romney doesn't have a formal leadership post. He has been censored by the state party, but he can't be removed from office until the 2024 primary.

Morrow
Oct 31, 2010

FlamingLiberal posted:

My dumb state is actually not nearly close to the top of this list

https://twitter.com/GasBuddyGuy/status/1392543691752017924?s=20

Virginia went nuts, I drove through Nova Tuesday night and saw double digit lines outside of gas stations. Then I got to DC 30 minutes later and the station down the street was offering 2.60 gas.

Morrow
Oct 31, 2010
Also as demonstrated by Covid, he's willing to listen to doctors when pushed to it for his personal health. Massive medical interventions can definitely keep him alive.

What we're seeing now with his weight could be a number of things: remember he had been on steroids in the fall. For all we know he's actually eating healthier after having a brush with death.

Morrow
Oct 31, 2010

Velocity Raptor posted:

I may be misunderstanding this, but the bolded part seems like a really bad idea. It sounds like it would lead to DC votes always going in favor of the sitting president. Unless DC ends up forbidding faithless electors.

You've misread it. If the district were shrunk down to just the White Houst and Capitol Building, the idea is the president and his family would be the only residents. The solution is to automatically assign the district's electoral votes to the national popular vote winner.

Morrow
Oct 31, 2010

why would you support Trump Jr. over Trump?

Morrow
Oct 31, 2010

RBA Starblade posted:

I kinda want to see Jr. square off against Daddy in the primaries

We've already seen Trump make his opponents cry in stage.

Morrow
Oct 31, 2010

Grammarchist posted:

I was dead certain that the Lincoln Project people would revert to supporting a hypothetical "sane" GOP after the election, so it's kinda weird to see them more clear-eyed about what the GOP has become than some centrists. I suppose it is more common for someone jumping ideological ships to go all the way. I went from Republican to socialist with no stop-over, and one of my relatives did that thing where you convert to Catholicism and go full Opus Dei to agitate against the Pope.

The only way they have a future in politics, where many have made their careers, is if Trump and Trumpism is dead and buried in the ground. They can only survive as accessories to the Democratic Party for so long: Biden certainly hasn't been listening to them very much or giving them a big role in his administration.

Their only hope is for the GOP to be broken and welcome them back as returning heroes. Which, it never will.

Morrow
Oct 31, 2010

TulliusCicero posted:

In this vein, just as a thought experiment:

Hypothetically how bad would the GOP have to get blown up in an election to reverse course and renounce belligerent Fox News/ Trumpism?

Like 20-30+ seats in the House? 54 Senate seats?

Or are have we just passed the Rubicon where the GOP would continue to double down into Trumpist fascism despite getting blown out at any number?

Every election cycle makes it harder, because you need a critical mass within the party to want to abandon Trumpism. And every election cycle a new crop of Trump skeptics get primaried or retire. Trumpism will be the core of the GOP going forward, even if Trump himself doesn't run again.

If 2020 had been a blowout maybe that would have pushed Trump out of power in the party, but it wasn't because he has such a hold over the Republican base that he was able to boost turnout to keep up with the Blue Wave.

Morrow
Oct 31, 2010

Randalor posted:

So can Gaetz and other elected officials actually be arrested for these crimes, or are they "protected" the same way Trump was while he was in office? And if they are arrested, how would that affect the House and Senate (because I'm assuming both chambers have people being caught up in this now)?

Trump was protected because he was the chief law enforcement officer, and everyone authorized to investigate and arrest him technically worked for him. Gaetz is one among many members of Congress, it is just the Feds are super slow about bringing formal charges against high profile public figures because they want it nice and sewn up. If you accuse a sitting congressman of sexual trafficking and don't get a conviction your career is over.

Morrow
Oct 31, 2010
There's no popular basis for a conservative party. Conservatism was a bust when it first debuted, it's only the deals with the devil that Reagan made with evangelicals and Nixon made with southern segregationists that gave it some popular backing. Now those groups have decided they don't need the fiscal and pro-business side.

Morrow
Oct 31, 2010

James Garfield posted:

Those seven counties represent 2.5% of the population. Sometimes people exaggerate how empty <state> is outside of the largest city, but eastern Oregon is a desert.

I'm tempted to say let them go, since they're being subsidized by the urban areas.

Morrow
Oct 31, 2010
Sanders as chair of the Senate Budget Committee which gives him a huge amount of control over any spending bill that passes Congress, which includes the ARP and any future infrastructure bills. He has more power now than he's ever wielded before. It's not just the big things: he controls the tiny details of the bills, the specific language and spending beyond the topline numbers, which can have a huge impact.

Meanwhile, the administration is filled with Warren's protégés and Larry Summers is desperately writing op-eds to stay relevant.

Morrow
Oct 31, 2010

Bishyaler posted:

It doesn't help that you have Biden saying "We need a Republican Party", once in January and again in May. There seems to be this belief that doing good things isn't legitimate without opposition, which seemed absolutely insane even back during the Obama years when they were merely obstructionists and not openly fascist.

It is absolutely true that you need a reasonable opposition to have a strong democratic society with healthy debate.

The Republican Party does not do that, and that is very bad and will have disastrous consequences if they ever have control of the federal government again.

Morrow
Oct 31, 2010

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Obama is hiding the existence of aliens because he thinks the knowledge would destroy human society.

To be fair he's probably right.

Morrow
Oct 31, 2010

Velocity Raptor posted:

Qualifications aside, I think her whole campaign slogan of "It's her turn" rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. It very much smacks of privilege instead of merit. She's not here because she's the best candidate, she's here because we say so.

The best president is probably some mild mannered civil servant buried somewhere in the GSA who has intimate knowledge of how the executive branch works.

Morrow
Oct 31, 2010
We will be greeted as liberators.

Morrow
Oct 31, 2010

Jaxyon posted:

Do you support this? Oppose this?

Did you even read this?

I support it. The sooner the American dream of home ownership dies, the sooner the neoliberal political system crumbles to be replaced with a new terror.

Morrow
Oct 31, 2010
If you had a constitutional convention at the moment you'd likely walk out of it with national bans on abortion, mandatory gun ownership, and federal judicial elections.

Morrow
Oct 31, 2010
It's both true that immigration and the border is a hard issue without a clear answer in American Politicsl Discourse and that Harris isn't a particularly talented politician who can navigate tricky issues like it.

I prefer her not being babied and protected by the administration. If she's being groomed as a successor then there needs to be the potential for her to fail at that now as opposed to a general election.

Morrow
Oct 31, 2010

Willa Rogers posted:

I mean, he joined bc his dad was facing a tough reelection, rather than waiting to be drafted, which isn't that noble:

And I reckon not too many guys who weren't the progeny of U.S. senators had choice assignments that shielded them from battle.

(Also, lol that Nixon held up Gore's deployment lest he die & get his dad sympathy votes.)

At the end of the day, the Nixon thing demonstrates he was never going to get equal treatment because even his father's enemies were going to give him special privileges. Insofar as personal choice matters he did volunteer.

Morrow
Oct 31, 2010

Grouchio posted:

Hey Murkowski, wanna switch to being Independent?

https://twitter.com/bridgetbhc/status/1405936401644986372?s=20

Alaska switched to rank choice recently, which one might think is good for Murkowski if she wasn't starting in third place based on polling.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ChangePolls/status/1402371014324113411

Morrow
Oct 31, 2010
His one weird trick is to actually live in New Jersey.

Morrow
Oct 31, 2010
They can't pass it anyway until the next reconciliation bill is available, if they're not able to break the filibuster.

Morrow
Oct 31, 2010
If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and hangs out with self-identified ducks, it's probably a duck.

Morrow
Oct 31, 2010

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Ron Johnson is going completely insane with quasi-Alex Jones level anti-vaccination ideas.

Says that "millions of children" could die or become crippled in the fall if schools mandate coronavirus vaccines and that the CDC urging people to vaccinate their kids because "only 0.12%" of kids had heart inflammation issues is something he "does not understand" the reasoning behind because it puts kids at risk.

https://twitter.com/byelin/status/1409585918554427393

He's doing this because he's up for reelection. He's spooked. He's trying to turn up the base that Trump mobilized in 2016.

Morrow
Oct 31, 2010
I can totally believe they wouldn't tell Trump about aliens. Truman, who was vice president, was only told about the atomic bomb 11 days after he became president.

Morrow
Oct 31, 2010

Murgos posted:

The royals actually have a ton of soft power they don't really use in the form of the bully pulpit. They can just say things and get them considered, not only in the UK but abroad as well.

The issue is the more they say the more people dislike them.

Morrow
Oct 31, 2010

Kraftwerk posted:

So what happens if Garcia wins?

NYPD coups the city government, beats protestors in the street, NYT publishes out of touch op-eds.

Morrow
Oct 31, 2010
Harris is absolutely the heir apparent in the Democratic Party, she was explicitly picked as VP with that in mind. And I'm marveling at how the consensus is slowly forming that she isn't the best suited for the role, which is the important bit of the apparent part. This means that if she tries to get the nomination in her own right she won't see the party clearing the way for her like they did with Clinton.

Which is good.

Morrow
Oct 31, 2010
Might as well object to the existence of "czars" in an administration, since the use of title reserved for the autocratic leaders of our geopolitical rival is undemocratic.

Morrow
Oct 31, 2010
If its banned in one sport, it's banned in all sports. So uppers and downers of all kinds get banned. Weed is potentially useful for shooting and archery because it helps you relax.

OTOH, it's definitely a bullshit ruling. A bunch of pudgy old white men are setting these rules independent of science while doing lines of cocaine off their mistresses tits. There's a reason that Beijing is getting basically two Olympics in two decades: no one else wants to deal with them.

Morrow
Oct 31, 2010
Judge, as much as he holds some conservative ideas and is thoroughly immersed into their culture, always held onto a scrap of decency and moral standing that prevented him from being really irredeemable. Idiocracy, even as it was soft serve eugenics, never presented the future people as bad or morally wrong. Ultimately with some tweaks they were able to get the crops going again and keep the guitar orchestras.

Morrow
Oct 31, 2010

How are u posted:

Picking Liz for the investigation is a fine idea.

She's a great wedge to split off the 2% of Republican voters who are cool with jingoism but not racism.

Morrow
Oct 31, 2010
The story of a lot of Biden progressive initiatives is "yes that would be nice, but we have bigger problems".

To be fair the Trump administration left a lot of bigger problems.

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Morrow
Oct 31, 2010

VikingofRock posted:

I've read a couple places that rental and housing prices are effectively a third of CPI calculations. For example today's NYT said this:

Am I misunderstanding this?

So, one headache is CPI may overweight long-term renters, who don't see big spikes in rent from year to year, and miss people who move a lot or recently moved, who will be bearing the brunt of the rent increase.

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