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Starsfan posted:It kind of seems like they are completely unable to do the work-intensive re-count of the ballots, either due to lack of volunteers or lack of interest. From my readings it seems that they are focusing more in on the juicier conspiracy theory meat of demanding private information from the manufacturer of the voting machines Dominion. Dominion is not playing ball with them. They are in the process of pissing off pretty much everyone who could conceivably be pissed off by a recount process, including the sheriff. Pretty much nothing they are doing is going to count for anything except chud points.
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May 14, 2021 20:05
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FizFashizzle posted:As far as I can remember the whole illegitimate elections thing started in 2012 with “unskewing the polls.” "Unskewing" has been a meme here for a long time and generally starts to happen a little bit whenever your guy is down in all the polling.
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May 14, 2021 20:32
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Somehow despite camera and video being ubiquitous, we haven't had an explosion of Roswell gray sightings. Really makes u think
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May 18, 2021 09:31
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TulliusCicero posted:This absurd gaslighting about BLM/ Antifa Riots is unfucking real: you would think all American cities are co distantly smoking and under siege with the way the GOP goes on about them This is for the part of the Republican base that has never left their rural hometown.
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May 19, 2021 22:31
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Leon Sumbitches posted:No, neither do I, especially since the cover is so flimsy. Looking at this area on Google maps shows five cars and one UPS truck parked in the no parking zone. Yeah this just seems like "Won't someone rid me of this meddlesome woman?"
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May 19, 2021 23:08
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MSB3000 posted:Without doing any research myself, is there any proof at all that this is actually her Tesla and not just like, a picture of a Tesla with a made-up AOC headline? The only way to be sure is to head down to this Whole Foods and open fire on the first white Tesla you see.
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May 19, 2021 23:11
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Groovelord Neato posted:She also plays League. Polling and focus groups are clearly telling congressional dems they should attempt bipartishanship even if no one who knows what's going on believes that will happen, and then generally do what they were going to do when that inevitably fails. This is not to say that there are not actually lovely dems who actually believe that bipartisanship is not for all practical purposes dead, but this seems to be popular Democrat kabuki these days.
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May 19, 2021 23:48
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James Garfield posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/1395730553249349635 I guess Liz will live to see another term.
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May 21, 2021 16:08
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Grammarchist posted:Aren't budget proposals essentially pointless? Trump wanted to axe all non-military spending and domestic spending actually increased because the GOP had to get enough Dems to agree. A public option and other initiatives like it would have to go through budget reconciliation on a strict party line so this is probably just a grab bag of things that "might" survive the inevitable shutdown fight. Spending in some areas under Trump increased dramatically (the usual conservative red meat poo poo like military) while other things were cut to the bone to the point that certain fed functions are currently crippled. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/05/21/biden-trump-government-rebuilding/ The budget is never what goes into effect word-for-word, but it acts as something of an opening position/dreamboat list to bargain from. For example, the only Democrat who's thinking small on student loan forgiveness right now seems to be Biden. People are counting on this at this point, and if Biden does nothing he will deserve the consequences.
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May 21, 2021 20:10
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Angry_Ed posted:Well yeah because they don't have the ability to think for themselves. Ask the average Republican voter about what they think about something that just happened in the last 24 hours and they'll give you a "well I don't know enough about that" until Fox News or Breitbart or whatever tells them what to think and say. We find that when arguments are framed in terms people can relate with and that they receive the same information, that they adopt those arguments generally. We also find that the average Republican politician is sailing out far to the right of their constituency on the reg, whether or not the constituency realizes it, and that corruption and voter suppression in states operating under long-term one-party rule (on either side of the aisle, especially in the case of corruption) are doing a lot of the rest of the damage. If you are just ingesting Fox News, for the most part you are not even receiving information about reality. In general the panacea is not to resign yourself to the idea that 40% of the electorate are "sheeple," but to organize and not be discouraged by whatever setback. Murgos posted:I know there have been statements about forming some kind of GOP Rump party but has it really gone anywhere? Some dark money fountain willing to step in and create the organization needed to make it happen? Any attempt at a rump party is pretty weak because it is represented by neoconservatives (what amounts to a failed movement as of 2016, if not much earlier), who can't bring themselves to find a solution to any problem better than FYGM or walk across the aisle any more than a Trumpist can. Their outright rejection of Trump is too little, far too late. They wanted their judicial nominees and they don't really have the moral authority, power, or popular support to change the party. It goes without saying that Liz Cheney is as big a ghoul as any of them, a nepotism candidate from a backwater, and couldn't resist the distraction of throwing barbs at the hated Democrats even when she was able to publish her editorial-as-mission statement. There's no one to root for. Name Change fucked around with this message at 19:04 on May 24, 2021 |
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May 24, 2021 19:00
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Nessus posted:Yes, and for many of them the prospect of giving the Democrats power - even on a pragmatic, "we're going to caucus with the Democrats as long as Biden is around to ride herd" level - is worse than the prospect of total nerve-stapled lockstep Trumpism. Yes, they are still convinced that the left are all pinkos and that this Trump thing is a phenomenon that can be recovered from internally and not the natural evolution of their party.
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May 24, 2021 20:06
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Captain Oblivious posted:Not just Hitler’s motivations, the German people’s motivations were in no small part to be avenged for the stabbed in the back mythos of World War 1. There was never any universe in which NOT going after western Europe was possible in light of that. 
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May 24, 2021 21:43
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archduke.iago posted:New Yorkers constantly defining arbitrary criteria about what makes someone a 'real New Yorker,' as though that's even a title of value is even more tiring than hearing about Yang's candidacy in the first place. Who the gently caress has a favorite subway stop in the first place? There are plenty of policy reasons to dunk on Yang without making up completely arbitrary ones. It's Twitter, when there's something to talk about, nothing will do nicely
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May 25, 2021 04:24
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Kale posted:Until he walks it back next week and claims he never said this and actually super meant that he thought she made a good point, thinks that the wokedy woke woke socialist democrats are blowing things way out of proportion and also shame on people in the media for saying that he condemned her. It's worth reminding that McCarthy is noticeably dumb even by congressional Republican standards, so we may not have to wait until next week. Also the only reason this is getting any attention from him to begin with is Israel.
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May 25, 2021 18:54
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Last I checked Yang was trying to win by making nice with Orthodox Jews.
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May 25, 2021 19:39
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TulliusCicero posted:Holy poo poo the Israelis actually got smart and figured out this was a last ditch effort by Bibi to remain in power, and are actually kicking his rear end to the curb? It had to break one way or the other and the last year+ has shown that Likud is just not going to be able to maintain power with Bibi on top, his corruption has become a little too naked. All that being said, this is hardly the end of the unholy right wing alliance to annihilate the Palestinians. And Bibi has lasted well past his sell-by date so he could still hang on like a cockroach.
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May 29, 2021 01:55
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Sanguinia posted:He should. The postal workers union are being loving idiots thinking that this viper can be trusted. Biden should ignore their dumb asses and get him out of there immediately because he will go back to dismantling the postal service the loving SECOND he gets the chance. The piece of poo poo was playing an active role in trying to undermine the elections in Trumps favor, and the fact that literally any stakeholder in the post office is willing to overlook that, let alone all the other raw evil poo poo he was doing that was actively destroying the institution, is absurd. DeJoy running the Postal Service into the ground during his tenure, whether or not one even accepts it as part of a scheme to destroy the election (it was), should be disqualifying. I seriously doubt Biden will let DeJoy walk, the guy painted a target on his back.
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May 29, 2021 07:53
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Grouchio posted:That or a tight-lipped GOP plant perhaps? No need for conspiracy theories really, Sinema is just among the last of the dying blue dog caucus. Bizarrely, early on she was Green Party before becoming a Democrat, which is about what you need to know about the ideological coherence of the Green Party.
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May 30, 2021 21:28
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People are very tired of ineffective, costly, and racist policing, but they don't object to the concept of the police generally because that sounds like (and probably is) anarchy. It has been a long buildup, but the last year or two has done a lot to lose the police their broad popular support because badge and sacrifice. People are wise to police unions and it seems to have pierced the cloud of white people never being bothered by police really.
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Jun 1, 2021 20:03
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"Fix the police" There I'm a marketing genius and we no longer have to march to noble defeat by advertising that we will abolish the police without actually meaning it or something. You've got the polling right there, the police are historically unpopular and all of the real (and attainable) policy goals of the movement are broadly popular, so if you don't want to compromise the rose twitter fantasy, that's on you.
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Jun 1, 2021 21:25
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Jaxyon posted:Rose twitter fantasy activists are already implementing policy based on defunding the police, without the slogan. You say this with the characteristic confidence that no one will go into the thread and immediately read all the people despairing that the police will never be abolished and nothing good is happening and all trends are against the movement. But fostering discussion really isn't the goal of the "I'm too good for this thread" pitch, it's getting in a sick own on everything wrong with society, the USNews libs.
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Jun 1, 2021 21:46
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Jaxyon posted:Really we need to just work out this slogan that's where all our efforts should go. I mean we have the enthusiasm, judging by the last 6 pages. The slogan is the sticking point precisely because the fringiest activists are insisting it's not really what they want, but won't change it because it's what they want, and then having a pity party when no one joins the club that can't even be honest with itself, since openly advocating anarchy would be even more easily dismissed. At least this way we can pretend that it's everyone else who lacks courage and action, also a great conversation starter. If no one's going into the thread, maybe the problem isn't the topic.
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Jun 1, 2021 23:15
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Flopsy posted:I wonder if him and some of these Texas dems are going to have to sit his deluded rear end down with pie charts and loving play by plays on why the republicans are in fact not his friends and getting rid of the filibuster will not destroy the government. It's not inconceivable and more likely that Manchin views it as simple re-election calculus to uphold the filibuster.
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Just gonna go back to this again:zoux posted:Last time I checked, there were still a whole shitload of police This shows 47% support for defunding (not abolishing!) the police among all Americans. By any metric police budgets are crazy and among a vast cascade of other effects have allowed the police to become paramilitary forces. Defunding is also the basic platform plank for much of the Democratic Party, not just a protest goal, but there is still nervousness among the rank and file about doing this, even though it's the only viable path to change at this point. It is also correct that many "reform" movements are about funneling more money to police forces, not taking action. Real police reform or whatever you want to call it is about reducing police authority generally and enforcing the limits on that authority strictly. As opposed to having the D.A. in bed with the police decline to press charges whenever anything comes up. That requires systemic change in itself, since the police essentially operate in an ecosystem of corruption. I would generally agree that the best action to take would be on the federal level, instead of hoping every city can achieve major reform on its own terms when we just got discussing that single party Dem legislatures have done little and have no Republicans to blame. Joining the police needs to stop being the bat signal for racist failsons. The point is that you don't have to fight the Will of the People to work toward these changes. They loving burnt a police precinct down in Minneapolis and it did not appear to affect public support for change. I can imagine a much different outcome for that in a previous era. The callous murder of George Floyd weighed far more heavily. Name Change fucked around with this message at 00:34 on Jun 2, 2021 |
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Jun 2, 2021 00:31
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VH4Ever posted:Just pausing here to correct the record, wasn't the fire at that precinct in fast started by a right wing agent provocateur of some kind? Like I thought I recalled a news story coming out much later revealing this? The mob like, ran with the idea but it didn't start it I thought? The more I know: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/23/texas-boogaloo-boi-minneapolis-police-building-george-floyd Even given this I don't recall the right wing outrage machine coalescing around this obvious talking point, but I'm sure if I go looking I'll find a Tucker Carlson White Power Hour segment.
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Neurolimal posted:- gently caress Bibi I would guess that if you are Likud "rank and file" right now there's not much sense in betraying the firm by going against Bibi and having a target painted on your back. Have to do that all together or not at all.
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Jun 3, 2021 05:24
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How are u posted:Looks like Trump is banned from Facebook for 2 years, at least until 2023. quote:At the time of the original Oversight Board vote, some members criticized the originally open-ended nature of the ban, demanding that Facebook re-review their decision and “justify a proportionate response” for the then-outgoing president. They gave Facebook six months to respond with a verdict that “should be “consistent with the rules that are applied to other users of its platform.” This two-year stretch is meant to respond to those criticisms. Any other user would be permabanned.
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Angry_Ed posted:Because they all played SimCity 2000 a lot and thought you can just plop down a solar plant in a month What I learned from SimCity 2000 is that I can't start a city unless it's around a lake and already kinda exists, at which point it doesn't matter how loving dumb my design plans get, it will always make money.
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The pandemic blew away even the most conservative "if people aren't commuting two hours to the office where I can see them performing the drudgery, they're out there loving me over!" office culture out here in Seattle. It's also finally dawned on some companies how much money they are blowing on mandatory in-office work not in just day-to-day costs but what it's costing them in talent. Not being in the office cripples the ability to form strong work relationships, and makes meetings somehow even less efficient and far more awkward. So in that sense there is a cost. Name Change fucked around with this message at 19:44 on Jun 7, 2021 |
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Jun 7, 2021 19:40
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Sedisp posted:When the earth was five c cooler new york cities sky line would be dwarfed by a massive glacier. If the ice age was to suddenly happen again I'm not sure the utility of arguing the semantical reasons for why the earth is technically still in tact. Good news about the cost of living in New York, everyone.
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Jun 7, 2021 20:01
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Absolutely no loving way you should buy a home without an inspection, and any bank letting you do that is also loving nuts.
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Jun 7, 2021 22:54
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"The more powerful you are, the necessarily more evil you are" being a basic article of faith is concerning because it's quackery fueled by pop psychology (that is to say, political pseudoscience with nothing whatsoever to do with psychology). It removes the burden of responsibility for people in power of their actions just to neatly promote conservative superstitions about Those in Charge. If they can't prevent you from voting outright, they promote apathy and despair to convince you that voting is a hopeless exercise because some vague, evil psychosis is the natural state of leadership. "Barack Obama has no capacity for empathy" is a lot less persuasive than "his policies largely sucked and he mismanaged his time in office because A, B, and C." "He's evil/mentally ill" is an insufficient answer for a big question. Josef bugman posted:I would go against this for the simple reason that people currently in possession of power would instead create a new "wants to change things too much-itis" mental health issue that disqualifies you from leadership of anything. Definitely we need more ways to stigmatize mental illness, as well.
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The Justice Department could stop trying to uphold this rule surrounding blanket immunity of the president to prosecution, but everyone on that level holds it as sacronsanct not just because it enshrines executive power, but because presumably they imagine a future where any president is constantly under legal assault from day one.Inferior Third Season posted:This isn't true. Hillary was the favorite to win, but Obama was considered her biggest rival from the day he announced. Yeah essentially some party elders who apparently didn't like Hillary, Tom Daschle and I believe Harry Reid among them, liked Obama as the alternative and worked to make that happen.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:You're gonna have to take that definition up with Sid Meier and Leonard Nimoy. Succdem's Civilization IV
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I vaguely recall the Obama administration announcing a stoppage on certain Marijuana prosecutions, which the Trump administration then reversed because Jeff Sessions is a big Reefer Madness guy.
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DoomTrainPhD posted:Do you have any proof of this? Because history has consistently shown the opposite. https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2021/06/10/senate-democrats-republicans-infrastructure/ quote:And the president has held steadfastly against any financing mechanism that raises taxes on Americans who make under $400,000 annually. The White House has made it clear to the group of 10 senators that the indexing provision, as well as any discussion about an electric vehicle mileage tax, would violate Biden’s red line and that he would reject it, according to another person familiar with the negotiations. Frankly atm this feels like the usual suspects trying to come up with anything and save face institutionally after Capito's bullshit "oh yeah there's definitely 20-30 feral GOP senators waiting to vote for an 'infrastructure bill' that is 1/7th the size of what you proposed, Mr. President."
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How are u posted:It does make me happy to see the recall effort fall so flat on its face. Caitlyn Jenner going over like a paper bag balloon full of wet poo poo is wonderful as well. I don't know what the gently caress she was thinking, and clearly neither does she. Misreading the room as a Gray Davis situation.
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Gort posted:Is communist terrorism even a thing in the US, let alone socialist? Communism has been a dead ideology espoused by nerds for roughly 40 years, and that's being charitable. E: If I'm being uncharitable, the original dream died the moment Stalin took power. Name Change fucked around with this message at 21:29 on Jun 22, 2021 |
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