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SidneyIsTheKiller
Jul 16, 2019

She's delusional,
"where's god", etc.
Completely suicidal.
One day she snaps.
She wants to kill herself
but she realizes that
teen suicide is out this year
and homicide is a much healthier therapeutic expression.


So I watched the Blade Runner workprint (this is the one that was shown to preview audiences and then later caused a sensation when it was accidentally shown at a film festival which got the ball rolling on the Directors Cut and Final Cut) and right off the bat there's an underappreciated difference that I think helped contribute to why the movie bombed so hard.

It doesn't begin with the text crawl!

How Blade Runner usually begins:


What the workprint has:


I've always maintained that the reason Blade Runner is so goddamn boring was because the Replicants' plight was immediately sympathetic. It's not thrilling to watch Harrison Ford hunt down and kill escaped slaves, and you just spend the whole movie waiting for him to come around.

But without the background in the text crawl the motivations of the Replicants aren't immediately apparent, and I don't recall if there's anywhere else that makes it explicit that their penalty for being on Earth is to be killed outright. Suddenly the setup becomes "future detective tracks down terminators who are killing people for as yet unknown reasons" and the realization that they're just an oppressed class of people comes to the audience more gradually.

So while I imagine first watching the movie without the text crawl was likely a disorienting experience (apparently attendees afterward struggled with questions like "why is the movie called Blade Runner"), the text they eventually went with killed any momentum the story had dead before it started.

SidneyIsTheKiller fucked around with this message at 20:19 on Apr 24, 2021

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SidneyIsTheKiller
Jul 16, 2019

She's delusional,
"where's god", etc.
Completely suicidal.
One day she snaps.
She wants to kill herself
but she realizes that
teen suicide is out this year
and homicide is a much healthier therapeutic expression.


Oh, and the workprint is darker and grainier and the end has a temp score that makes the scene come off like a horror movie and I definitely recommend tracking it down.

SidneyIsTheKiller
Jul 16, 2019

She's delusional,
"where's god", etc.
Completely suicidal.
One day she snaps.
She wants to kill herself
but she realizes that
teen suicide is out this year
and homicide is a much healthier therapeutic expression.


banned from Starbucks posted:

All the replicants are assholes and deserve death for killing the short goony nerd guy

What's wrong with that??

SidneyIsTheKiller
Jul 16, 2019

She's delusional,
"where's god", etc.
Completely suicidal.
One day she snaps.
She wants to kill herself
but she realizes that
teen suicide is out this year
and homicide is a much healthier therapeutic expression.


MadDogMike posted:

The main thing that irritates me about all the extended/director/etc. versions of Blade Runner is how they add scenes that push Deckard must be a replicant. I don't mind the idea per se, but I think it works much better as a mystery unsolved (or more accurately solved how the viewer prefers) rather than straight up making it obvious he's a replicant. Helps with thinning the line between humans and replicants that way; I was pleased 2049's only answer when they touched on it was "Deckard's a person, the rest is irrelevant" which really is the important take home message to me.

I'm a "he's a human" guy myself, but you can make the argument that without the extended cuts the movie never actually raises the question in the first place (Rachel at one point asks "have you ever run that test on yourself?" but that always struck me as rhetorical). The annoying part is that the "he's a Replicant" people tend to be like "he finds an origami unicorn so OBVIOUSLY that means he's a Replicant, it's the only logical explanation."

There's a DVD feature about the topic where in a series of talking head clips mostly of a polite back-and-forth of the merits of each side you get a visibly irritated Frank Darabont basically going "of course he's not a loving Replicant you idiots!"

SidneyIsTheKiller
Jul 16, 2019

She's delusional,
"where's god", etc.
Completely suicidal.
One day she snaps.
She wants to kill herself
but she realizes that
teen suicide is out this year
and homicide is a much healthier therapeutic expression.


The workprint also has a different title sequence that is way chintzier but has its own 80s charm. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjOmA7SQJD8

SidneyIsTheKiller
Jul 16, 2019

She's delusional,
"where's god", etc.
Completely suicidal.
One day she snaps.
She wants to kill herself
but she realizes that
teen suicide is out this year
and homicide is a much healthier therapeutic expression.


Rutger Hauer was never convinced that replicants were people. "Frankly, I thought Deckard was a little sick, because he ran away with a vibrator that looked like a woman."

SidneyIsTheKiller
Jul 16, 2019

She's delusional,
"where's god", etc.
Completely suicidal.
One day she snaps.
She wants to kill herself
but she realizes that
teen suicide is out this year
and homicide is a much healthier therapeutic expression.


I have a brother that was a big Star Trek TNG fan from the beginning, and when Data eventually died he was a little offended that they gave him a funeral, because he was just a robot.

SidneyIsTheKiller
Jul 16, 2019

She's delusional,
"where's god", etc.
Completely suicidal.
One day she snaps.
She wants to kill herself
but she realizes that
teen suicide is out this year
and homicide is a much healthier therapeutic expression.


Blade Runner at the Oscars!

https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1386...unner-oscars%2F

SidneyIsTheKiller
Jul 16, 2019

She's delusional,
"where's god", etc.
Completely suicidal.
One day she snaps.
She wants to kill herself
but she realizes that
teen suicide is out this year
and homicide is a much healthier therapeutic expression.


Ridley Scott wanted the "love scene" to come off somewhat dark because as he saw it Rachel was something of an innocent, though he admits it might have taken it a little too far.

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SidneyIsTheKiller
Jul 16, 2019

She's delusional,
"where's god", etc.
Completely suicidal.
One day she snaps.
She wants to kill herself
but she realizes that
teen suicide is out this year
and homicide is a much healthier therapeutic expression.


I finally read Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep and I had already heard a lot about how Philiy K. Dick and Ridley Scott had some very fundamentally different views of the androids/replicants but I was still NOT prepared for Rachel betraying Deckard.

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