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massive spider
Dec 6, 2006

Crumps Brother posted:

I see this around a lot. It's not true. Can you let me know what scene in the movie breaks its own internal logic? And to be clear, the internal logic of the movie is to resolve every instance of the grandfather paradox as if the universe throws its hands up in the air and says, "fine. gently caress it. Going forward from here this is the new normal."

Here are a few examples of this internal logic as shown to us by the movie:
Old looper climbing a fence during his escape and one of his fingers disappears cuz his young self had it severed at that moment.
Diner scene when young looper carves a message in to his arm and it appears on old looper's arm at the same.
...and, of course, the finale which I'll keep at least a little vague for the sake of this post.

Where looper falls apart Is the rainmakers origin appears to be a classic terminator 1 style closed loop grandfather paradox, as opposed the rest of the movie.

God Hole posted:

time loop movies that should have had different endings:

edge of tomorrow: the happy ending here had big "studio-mandated" energy. i understand the original manga had the main character turn out to be a catatonic automaton by the end? that would've felt a little fresher than what the movie gave us

source code: the protagonist, a digitally-based time demon... detective, is framed triumphantly as he walks toward the horizon inhabiting the body of someone he just murdered, with his arm around his next unknowing victim. there's also a "infinite branching universes are being forcibly connected/created by this machine" stinger that seems really brushed over. otherwise a pretty entertaining flick


Source code isn't exactly infinite universes as it is Leibniz' monadology, which I only barely understand. But the me-dumb version is - the smallest piece/aspect/'atom'/ basic building block/ that makes up reality is the 'monad' (philosophically equivalent what the film would call the Source Code) which must contain the whole of reality in it by virtue of being connected to it. "perpetual living mirrors of the universe." therefore the machine virtual reality is just as valid as the real one, even though its you would assume its ostensibly only limited to a small piece of one guys experience.

massive spider fucked around with this message at 11:19 on Jun 14, 2021

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